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Started by ecoboostsho, November 08, 2013, 09:47:16 AM

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wasinger3000

#45
July 17, 2014, 09:45:44 AM
Quote from: ecoboostsho on July 17, 2014, 09:32:38 AM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on July 17, 2014, 09:30:39 AM
Corn will cure the knock. I never see knock anymore.  The most I've recorded was .5.
I'm pretty sure running larger concentrations of ethanol in a pre 2013 that has been tuned is a bad idea...our fuel pump isn't as good as yours! ;) yes...I'm jealous.
Oh that's right.... it's like rubbing corn in an open wound. Lol sorry about that. Maybe someday we will all have equal corn rights.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

ecoboostsho

#46
July 17, 2014, 09:51:39 AM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on July 17, 2014, 09:45:44 AM
Quote from: ecoboostsho on July 17, 2014, 09:32:38 AM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on July 17, 2014, 09:30:39 AM
Corn will cure the knock. I never see knock anymore.  The most I've recorded was .5.
I'm pretty sure running larger concentrations of ethanol in a pre 2013 that has been tuned is a bad idea...our fuel pump isn't as good as yours! ;) yes...I'm jealous.
Oh that's right.... it's like rubbing corn in an open wound. Lol sorry about that. Maybe someday we will all have equal corn rights.
I've always wondered if we could get away with a mild mix in the summer...just too chicken to try and too lazy to mix it I guess. I will be interested to see if your fuel pressure maintains itself in cold weather with E30. The cold air requires more fuel and that is when people were running out. LMS even had a cold weather tune until it wad all sorted out. That said this car seems pretty good at saving itself!
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

FoMoCoSHO

#47
July 17, 2014, 10:07:58 AM
There is no problem with frp in cold weather with 2013+....unless running like a raped ape is a problem.

ecoboostsho

#48
July 17, 2014, 10:08:45 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 17, 2014, 10:07:58 AM
There is no problem with frp in cold weather with 2013+....unless running like a raped ape is a problem.
Running E30? Totally cool and even more jealous.
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

FoMoCoSHO

#49
July 17, 2014, 10:10:51 AM
Yup. I'm at e34 right now and all is well.

ecoboostsho

#50
July 17, 2014, 10:11:26 AM
Nice!
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

Brucelinc

#51
July 17, 2014, 10:14:43 AM
I have a 2010 and have been thinking about a mild cocktail - maybe just 2-3 gallons of E85 along with 93.  The 93 is already 10% ethanol.  Do you think there is too much risk in that?  That should equal around 95 octane...maybe not enough to make a difference....

By the way, my Aeroforce gauge is showing +/- 2 or less.  99% of the time it is at zero. 

wasinger3000

#52
July 17, 2014, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 17, 2014, 10:10:51 AM
Yup. I'm at e34 right now and all is well.
Did I inspire you to go past 30%? Hah
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

SHOdded

#53
July 17, 2014, 12:07:28 PM
Most of our data is coming from the 2013+ right now for E85 mixes.  I know Mike ran E85 in his Flex, hopefully he will chime in on running E85 mixes in the 2010-12 EBs.  Also, Bruce, you are running 4X.  Hopefully it won't be thrown off by the extra octane?
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Brucelinc

#54
July 17, 2014, 12:29:51 PM
I have read other threads about running e85 in the 2010 - 2012 models and have decided not to bother with it.  The 93 I run is already 10% ethanol and I have no detonation issues so I will just leave things as they are - unless getting 93 becomes a problem in my area.

FoMoCoSHO

#55
July 18, 2014, 11:15:33 AM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on July 17, 2014, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 17, 2014, 10:10:51 AM
Yup. I'm at e34 right now and all is well.
Did I inspire you to go past 30%? Hah
No, I've been there once before but became uncomfortable with the trims. I got over that and want to see what happens. Putting in the stock filter and cranking the corn yielded 22lb-ft higher peak than previously recorded in both Torque and Dash Command. 11 of that was just the change back to a new OEM filter.

wasinger3000

#56
July 18, 2014, 11:35:18 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 18, 2014, 11:15:33 AM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on July 17, 2014, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 17, 2014, 10:10:51 AM
Yup. I'm at e34 right now and all is well.
Did I inspire you to go past 30%? Hah
No, I've been there once before but became uncomfortable with the trims. I got over that and want to see what happens. Putting in the stock filter and cranking the corn yielded 22lb-ft higher peak than previously recorded in both Torque and Dash Command. 11 of that was just the change back to a new OEM filter.
You should get it tuned for 30%.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

FoMoCoSHO

#57
July 18, 2014, 12:03:55 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on July 18, 2014, 11:35:18 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 18, 2014, 11:15:33 AM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on July 17, 2014, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 17, 2014, 10:10:51 AM
Yup. I'm at e34 right now and all is well.
Did I inspire you to go past 30%? Hah
No, I've been there once before but became uncomfortable with the trims. I got over that and want to see what happens. Putting in the stock filter and cranking the corn yielded 22lb-ft higher peak than previously recorded in both Torque and Dash Command. 11 of that was just the change back to a new OEM filter.
You should get it tuned for 30%.
Waiting for my cutout to come back then its on like Donkey Kong....

wasinger3000

#58
July 18, 2014, 12:10:13 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 18, 2014, 12:03:55 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on July 18, 2014, 11:35:18 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 18, 2014, 11:15:33 AM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on July 17, 2014, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 17, 2014, 10:10:51 AM
Yup. I'm at e34 right now and all is well.
Did I inspire you to go past 30%? Hah
No, I've been there once before but became uncomfortable with the trims. I got over that and want to see what happens. Putting in the stock filter and cranking the corn yielded 22lb-ft higher peak than previously recorded in both Torque and Dash Command. 11 of that was just the change back to a new OEM filter.
You should get it tuned for 30%.
Waiting for my cutout to come back then its on like Donkey Kong....
Let me know what your fuel rail pressure looks like.

I think I'm going to increase up to 38% and see if torrie can bump up my timing.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

FoMoCoSHO

#59
July 18, 2014, 12:47:48 PM
2480 peak on the rail....
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