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Any 1/4 Mile difference with a regular SHO, compaired to one with the PP ?

Started by Rich196, July 09, 2014, 10:01:23 AM

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ShoBoat

dynolicious works pretty good.


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2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

shoman04

Quote from: crash712us on July 09, 2014, 11:09:13 PM
Performance differences are negligible. I have been to the track many of times with the fastest SHO's out there. PP have a edge on 60' times. By about 1/10 of a second, there disadvantage is tire spin. The lower gear ratio makes more difficult to hook up. And our cars don't like excessive wheel spin and ECM will quickly shut you down. This has nothing to do with TC being on or off. It has everything to do with wheel speed difference between front and rear wheels.

But if I where in the market for a new SHO it would be a PP car for all the additional add on they come with now.
Quote from: SHO-Time on July 10, 2014, 11:54:49 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on July 09, 2014, 06:59:35 PM
Did both of you have it in drive or in sport,cause if you had it in sport mode,you will only be able to go up to 5th gear.

We were both in Sport mode and we were both brake boosting. The PP is better geared from a dig, it's as simple as that. I figure one car length is worth 1/10 of second roughly. We''ll be heading to the strip at some point and we'll line them up again. I'll try to get a couple of videos next time as we only raced once. I figure at least three races is a solid barometer.
Quote from: ShoBoat on July 12, 2014, 12:33:22 PM
Mine has PP and does 12's all day long. Maybe it's where he is at? DA can really change how the cars run.

The differences in the 1/4 are negligible anyway. If anything it's less than 1/10th if that.

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OK JUST THE FACTS GUYS!!! 1st) My car is/was the fastest TUNE ONLY car in the forum @ 12.669sec!!

              2nd) With the same MODs or equal up-grades Crash 712 and I did a head to head at LMS TRACK DAY LAST YEAR.

               3RD) "THE MASTER JEDI of SPEED" aka Steve 142857 is the Master of the #'s that make you fast at the track. And He said that Every little thing can change the out come. Car WT., tire size, weather what the DA is, SO in the end MY PP car vs Crash's non-PP were only 0.0006sec different I won buy treeing him w/better RT but he had a faster ET, With me having the highest mph!! SO THE BOTTON LINE IS!!! They are so close that any little thing can change the out come on day to new day at the track. BUT I STILL BEAT CRASH!!!!!LOL  :mike1:

By the way Crash what are you tire size? 275x40x20 here.
2011 KONA BLU SHO,Livernois Tune,AIRAID CAI,DYNOMAX MUFFLEs,Newest member of the 12sec CLUB 12.669sec @ 107mph    2011 Ford Taurus SHO: 12.669 @ 105.050 MPH NEW FOR 2013LMS down-pipe,Magnaflow X-pipe,and Custom 2.5"exhaust pipe!! Meth and stage 5 next to be install!!!!!! METH DYNO TUNE today 405AWHP!!!WOW LMS track day 12.4209sec   :mike1:

SHOnUup

All this said I have a non PP and am envious of the Trans cooler and PTU cooler...i would take a tenth added to the 1/4 just to have those protection parts!!!
2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

SHOnUup

I ran a best of 12.7582 tune only with times getting better each run...12.6's were coming I felt but the brakes said no more. Had the pleasure of meeting crash at lms track day this year and then he wooped on me with a 12.38!!! Crazy part is he hasn't hit lower times than what he did with stock rims. Aftermarket rims were 20lbs. lighter each and still no gains???
2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

crash712us


2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

shoman04

Quote from: crash712us on July 15, 2014, 10:36:31 AM
Shoman 245/45/20's


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HA Crash, nice to hear from you. My best METH time is 12.33sec @80deg So your 12.25sec is still safe but some cool temp and I want to beat mike's 12.27sec (best before he added the big turbo's) I'm always messing with bpd about his car is "TOO PRETTY TO BE FAST" So I need my best METH time to be better than his!!!!!!LOL But EXPT for the tires our MOD's are equal to each other. Even if I don't beat you there is a 0.01sec that I can beat MIKE BY!!!!ROTFLMBO
2011 KONA BLU SHO,Livernois Tune,AIRAID CAI,DYNOMAX MUFFLEs,Newest member of the 12sec CLUB 12.669sec @ 107mph    2011 Ford Taurus SHO: 12.669 @ 105.050 MPH NEW FOR 2013LMS down-pipe,Magnaflow X-pipe,and Custom 2.5"exhaust pipe!! Meth and stage 5 next to be install!!!!!! METH DYNO TUNE today 405AWHP!!!WOW LMS track day 12.4209sec   :mike1:

ZSHO

I had the 13sho non pp,braannd new for 2 weeks and then traded it in for the car that i have now,the 13 SHO PP,everyones opinion varies here and each to their own,but to be honest with you i noticed the 13 pp sho was quicker in 1/4 as soon as the salesman gave me the key to test drive it alone,also the 13 pp the engine sounded,louder,meaner,thats only my opinion,since both cars were brand new and no mods.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|