Quote from: FracaSHO on July 09, 2014, 08:10:03 PM

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Quote from: SHO-Time on July 09, 2014, 12:12:17 PM
For what it's worth, my brother-in-law owns a 2014 PP with an LMS V8 tune. I own a 2013 non-PP with an LMS V8 tune. We raced off of a stop light and he was 1 full car length in front of me the entire time. We raced up to 100 mph-ish.

ha I knew it. PP haters say what you want all things otherwise equal the lower gear ratio has to have advantage. It's common sense.

Oh and my PP gets's upto 6th gear in S mode if I shift up with the paddles, however racing up only to 100 that should be irrelevant anyway.

My 10' with PP shifts into 6th automatically. I really don't know where this 5th gear only talk comes from. And the lower gear ratio ALWAYS has the advantage. If you had a mustang with a 3:55 rear end, would you switch to a 3:27 or a 4:10?  The lower gear gets the power to the pavement quicker and quicker launch = quicker ET. As my Dad says, "it's all about the hole shot!"


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2010 SHO with PP
170* T-Stat
NGK LTR7IX plugs, gap at 0.030
BOV VTA
MyCal LMS Stage 4+
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Sorry, I'm confused... So you're saying non PP with the 2.77 would be quicker?

I've driven both (2013)  and couldn't tell much difference.   I wanted the steering wheel and coolers.

But that had adaptive cruise!

Rich, any advantage you may have had disappeared the second you put that K&N intake on.

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 09, 2014, 10:02:48 PM
Rich, any advantage you may have had disappeared the second you put that K&N intake on.

It's ALL in the variables .... no DIS on the PP

P.S. ... paddle shifters for the 1/4 !?!?!?   Nah ....

Quote from: SwampRat on July 09, 2014, 10:08:51 PM

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 09, 2014, 10:02:48 PM
Rich, any advantage you may have had disappeared the second you put that K&N intake on.

It's ALL in the variables .... no DIS on the PP

P.S. ... paddle shifters for the 1/4 !?!?!?   Nah ....

Not dissing PP at all.

I am dissing the Typhoon.

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 09, 2014, 10:20:10 PM

Quote from: SwampRat on July 09, 2014, 10:08:51 PM

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 09, 2014, 10:02:48 PM
Rich, any advantage you may have had disappeared the second you put that K&N intake on.

It's ALL in the variables .... no DIS on the PP

P.S. ... paddle shifters for the 1/4 !?!?!?   Nah ....

Not dissing PP at all.

I am dissing the Typhoon.

Uhhhh. .... didn't say YOU were on the PP ... said I wasn't.
Agreed on the K&N

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 09, 2014, 10:02:48 PM
Rich, any advantage you may have had disappeared the second you put that K&N intake on.

Just out of curiosity has anyone tried to see if there is really a difference in flow between the K&N panel and the OEM paper filter. I put the 2 side by side. And I was really amazed at how much more surface area the OEM filter had. I am really wondering if the K&N drop in is worth it considering it doesn't filter nearly as well as the OEM.


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Performance differences are negligible. I have been to the track many of times with the fastest SHO's out there. PP have a edge on 60' times. By about 1/10 of a second, there disadvantage is tire spin. The lower gear ratio makes more difficult to hook up. And our cars don't like excessive wheel spin and ECM will quickly shut you down. This has nothing to do with TC being on or off. It has everything to do with wheel speed difference between front and rear wheels.

But if I where in the market for a new SHO it would be a PP car for all the additional add on they come with now.

Quote from: ShoBoat on July 09, 2014, 10:53:07 PM

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 09, 2014, 10:02:48 PM
Rich, any advantage you may have had disappeared the second you put that K&N intake on.

Just out of curiosity has anyone tried to see if there is really a difference in flow between the K&N panel and the OEM paper filter. I put the 2 side by side. And I was really amazed at how much more surface area the OEM filter had. I am really wondering if the K&N drop in is worth it considering it doesn't filter nearly as well as the OEM.


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I never looked at them side by side but you make an interesting point.

Time to slap the OEM back in.

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 09, 2014, 11:47:53 PM

Quote from: ShoBoat on July 09, 2014, 10:53:07 PM

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on July 09, 2014, 10:02:48 PM
Rich, any advantage you may have had disappeared the second you put that K&N intake on.

Just out of curiosity has anyone tried to see if there is really a difference in flow between the K&N panel and the OEM paper filter. I put the 2 side by side. And I was really amazed at how much more surface area the OEM filter had. I am really wondering if the K&N drop in is worth it considering it doesn't filter nearly as well as the OEM.


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I never looked at them side by side but you make an interesting point.

Time to slap the OEM back in.

I think I'll start a new thread. I didn't mean to jack this one.


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Quote from: ZSHO on July 09, 2014, 06:59:35 PM
Did both of you have it in drive or in sport,cause if you had it in sport mode,you will only be able to go up to 5th gear.

We were both in Sport mode and we were both brake boosting. The PP is better geared from a dig, it's as simple as that. I figure one car length is worth 1/10 of second roughly. We''ll be heading to the strip at some point and we'll line them up again. I'll try to get a couple of videos next time as we only raced once. I figure at least three races is a solid barometer.

I know of at least one member here that always boasted about the PP, yet can't get in the 12's with mods.  Strange that my non PP never ran anything but 12's with the same mods.

Mine has PP and does 12's all day long. Maybe it's where he is at? DA can really change how the cars run.

The differences in the 1/4 are negligible anyway. If anything it's less than 1/10th if that.

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I need an accurate way of taking 0-60 times. Torque is to slow.