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Are hot pipes really necessary?

Started by FracaSHO, June 27, 2014, 11:13:35 AM

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FracaSHO

I know the hot pipes are a must when upgrading turbos and/or adding meth. At this point I don't plan on either of those mods. But my modding budget just hit a snag, actually a big ole scratch, to the tune of $762. My mods are/will be LMS 4X 3 bar tune, PPE catted down pipes, Corsa exhaust, and 170* t stat. Do I really need the hot pipes?  It's either hot pipes or wheels. And I really want wider wheels to compliment the Megan coilovers and lowered stance. Opinions?

Side note: I have no idea when, who, or how the scratch came to be. And with a $500 deductible, going through my insurance is not worth it. So I will be paying out of pocket.


Brad
2010 SHO with PP
170* T-Stat
NGK LTR7IX plugs, gap at 0.030
BOV VTA
MyCal LMS Stage 4+
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Brad
2010 Tuxedo Black SHO w/ PP

EcoPowerParts

No the hot pipes aka charge pipes aren't a necessity, they won't make you any more power BUT if you have any stock rubber pieces these pipes and silicone hoses will replace them.
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yowen

Perhaps w/o hotpipes you'd just want to keep a watchful eye on the key hose-connections to make sure that they are solid.
2010 Taurus SHO, Tuxedo Black
Awaiting Installation: Catless Downpipes, LMS Tune, 3Bar Map Sensor

crash712us

No hot pipes here and run LMS stage 5 meth and my stock pipes are still hanging on. While I know I am pushing the envelope with them running 18-22psi of boost. With your mods you should be fine.

2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

EcoPowerParts

I think myself and 2 or 3 others broke the rear rubber hose to the turbo, I also started splitting the front turbo to IC hose as well, on my car you could watch the hoses expand like balloons so I figured if I had some made I'd replicate them. Long term those rubber hoses will fatigue and crack, they'll you'll be troubleshooting a boost leak which sucks seriously.
Keep on eye on your boost and if it starts dropping mysteriously to down around the 6psi range it's time for some pipes. :)
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Josephm

I was showing a diesel mechanic/ engine builder my engine, and he pointed out the coupling from plastic hard pipe to turbo and said those do/will leak. Really small at first, and will get worse.  He said one of the bigger manufactures of big rig turbo diesels used those and they chased boost leaks until they just replaced them all with t-clamps.
12' Flex EB
Unleashed X4
3rd Cat delete

FracaSHO

Thanks for all the advice. I know they won't give me any more power, but they won't leak and they look pretty.

On a side note; I meant for the title to say "are EcoPower parts HOT PIPES..."  Sorry to EcoPower parts for the mistake. You guys are DEFINITELY worth it. Great pricing and customer service.


Brad
2010 SHO with PP
170* T-Stat
NGK LTR7IX plugs, gap at 0.030
BOV VTA
MyCal LMS Stage 4+
Sent from my iPhone
Brad
2010 Tuxedo Black SHO w/ PP

BiGMaC

Brad... I love mine...  If you really want them sexy get a PC or ceramic coating.  Did mine black ceramic to match DPs and future intake

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

panther427

They might free up a couple HP on a full mod car.
2013 SHO

BiGMaC


•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

crash712us

I inspect my pipes regularly, and hot pipes are on my to do list as I know its just a matter of time before they will split.

2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

Jtrain

I hope somebody stopped you from making an insurance claim to save your self 200$.
2004 G35: Built Motor 8.8:1, Single Disc Kevlar Clutch, 3" Dual Turbo Back, G18 Twin Turbos, 18PSI, 600 Wheel HP
2007 Jeep SRT8 13.4 @104 Sold for....
2014 Ford Explorer Sport: K&N, .030 NGK plugs, 170 Tstat, 3Bar sensor, Tuned with SCT Tuner

FracaSHO


Quote from: Jtrain on July 10, 2014, 05:40:16 PM
I hope somebody stopped you from making an insurance claim to save your self 200$.

No need. I paid out of pocket as that would be cheaper in the long run. I'll just have to talk my wife into letting me keep some or all of my Christmas bonus this year to finish my project.


Brad
2010 SHO with PP
170* T-Stat
NGK LTR7IX plugs, gap at 0.030
BOV VTA
MyCal LMS Stage 4+
Sent from my iPhone
Brad
2010 Tuxedo Black SHO w/ PP