Quote from: JimiJak on April 17, 2014, 06:39:08 PM

Quote from: Josephm on April 16, 2014, 10:30:12 PM
Curious what your impressions are of the WRX. The ST is at a stand still mod wise, i thought? I think they have maxed out there fuel pump?

Haven't heard of this...This would be good info to look into though...

The ST gets bumped down...like, WAY down if I can't mod it...where's the fun in driving a stocker!?

Wrong ..... tons of mods for the ST .
Check out Cobb tuning and others .

Yup, Cobb and Unleashed tune ST's. Even Buscher makes dp and exhaust... lots of options.
And gd they are tossable... little go cart with tq

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f598/edgeautosport-com-s-focus-st-build-w-163252/

Talks about burning through a whole set of pads at the track because of the torque vectoring.

http://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-st-performance/8903-fuel-pump-upgrade-12.html

3-11-14 Still no FP. They are out of fuel the same as this platform. Theres upgrades but there limit has been reached.

Cobb offers an intake,fmic, dp, exh, motor mount for a measy $3225 witch is good for 90hp with there off the shelf tune.; Like i said before they are out of fuel so the mods are at a stand still.
http://www.cobbtuning.com/Ford-Focus-ST-2013-s/70825.htm

Quote from: Josephm on April 17, 2014, 10:58:27 PM
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f598/edgeautosport-com-s-focus-st-build-w-163252/

Talks about burning through a whole set of pads at the track because of the torque vectoring.

http://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-st-performance/8903-fuel-pump-upgrade-12.html

3-11-14 Still no FP. They are out of fuel the same as this platform. Theres upgrades but there limit has been reached.

Cobb offers an intake,fmic, dp, exh, motor mount for a measy $3225 witch is good for 90hp with there off the shelf tune.; Like i said before they are out of fuel so the mods are at a stand still.
http://www.cobbtuning.com/Ford-Focus-ST-2013-s/70825.htm

Yeah...and we are at a standstill on fuel issue's on our platform temporarily as well ...

The point is I would bet my bottom dollar that the Focus ST folks get stuff that they need before we do because there are tons of the little beasties out there ....
No car is perfect.. they all have issues and maybe flaws  . I bet your fav car for him sucks as far as others are concerned as well .
The ST for the money is a blast to Drive , OK truth be told ..... I bought one for my son and sometimes he " lets me drive it " .
Its a lot more fun to drive than my old Fusion ever was .

Ford just dumb founds me by putting a brake as a differential. I cant imagine driving spirited and it wearing the brakes being a good idea.

And then the fact my minivan beats the 'hot hatch' in the quarter mile almost seems embarrassing.

There is supposed to be one at the track this weekend. If i line up with it, i'll get a video of it, and post it in here. 

Quote from: Josephm on April 17, 2014, 11:29:59 PM
Ford just dumb founds me by putting a brake as a differential. I cant imagine driving spirited and it wearing the brakes being a good idea.

And then the fact my minivan beats the 'hot hatch' in the quarter mile almost seems embarrassing.

There is supposed to be one at the track this weekend. If i line up with it, i'll get a video of it, and post it in here.

The torque vectoring seems to work pretty well on the twisties and I doubt it's used often enough to cause any issues.

2013 SHO's have it also and my brakes are wearing evenly at 20K

If there is a problem, I'm sure the police package equipped cars will exhibit symptoms first.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2013-ford-taurus-sho-instrumented-test-review

My car hasn't been on a road course but when that happens, I will let you know if i toast a set of pads.

How many times have you auto crossed your car?

If i had a hatch, auto crossing for fun would be something i would do.

Quote from: Josephm on April 17, 2014, 11:51:11 PM
How many times have you auto crossed your car?

If i had a hatch, auto crossing for fun would be something i would do.

I'm with you.

Like I said, I haven't but when I do I will report back if I kill my pads.

One guy on the MS6 forum who "heard" about this doesn't have me terribly concerned...I didn't notice anyone backing this up.

I might check in at the Jet and see what's up as a Fiesta ST may be in our future.

You seen the fiesta st on cobb's webpage? I was so impressed and then the gains they had.

If i ever need a commuter car, i will defiantly be looking into that car

I have now...

If only there was an AWD option.

Quote from: Josephm on April 17, 2014, 11:29:59 PM
And then the fact my minivan beats the 'hot hatch' in the quarter mile almost seems embarrassing.

LOL If I had a "Minivan" that cost $45K I'd want it to beat a focus too!

Quote from: SHODYOU on April 16, 2014, 11:08:03 PM
ST for sure... almost bought one instead of the SHO... just because they are that fun.

Interior is light years ahead of the WRX, which is huge for me, and the tq vectoring actually works quite well. It doesnt tug the wheel like youd expect... less in fact, than an lsd equipped ms3.

+1

Ford's torque vectoring, especially in the ST, does work quite well!

actually the system works so well that Ford is one of the few manufacturers able to produce controllable oversteer from a FWD chassis; a necessity for Ford to compete in Europe while having few RWD platforms.  Of course now, others are copying Ford...

just happened to get a closeup look at a  focus hatchback last night. if you need a hatchback can understand the but the look is not as smooth as the regular focus, just my option. but it did have a beaut of a set of wheels. very nice black & chrome combo & car was silver & really looked good.
mikev

Quote from: Josephm on April 18, 2014, 12:43:47 AM
You seen the fiesta st on cobb's webpage? I was so impressed and then the gains they had.

If i ever need a commuter car, i will defiantly be looking into that car

Fiesta ST seems to be the fav.  It's just small.