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Michelin Pilot Super Sport vs. Continental ExtremeContact DWS

Started by BBOX, April 02, 2014, 01:35:22 AM

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BBOX

I'll preface this by saying I'm leaning towards the Michelins but I wanted some opinions before I pulled the trigger.

Within the next week or two I need to get new tires and put my winter tires in to storage. I've narrowed it down to the two choices listed in the title, the Michelin's are balls out summer tires while the Conti's are the highest-rated all-season tires on the market and I know they're a very popular choice among the EB community.

So here's the situation, I live in Chicago, so half the year here the weather is crap and I roll some Pirelli winter tires. I'm leaning towards the Michelin's for the other half of the year. I figure I can run them from April til early October and then flip back to the Pirelli's.

My only concern, and I might be over thinking this, is that the weather in the transition months can be unpredictable and snow may come at unpredictable times. If it does come "out of season" it's likely to be small amounts and melt quickly, which is what makes me consider the Conti's.

I know it's not like the Michelin's would just turn in to useless slicks if there was a little light snow, but I've never driven a purely-summer tire before so I figured I'd toss this question out there and see other people thought.

SHODYOU

Id run the PSS for sure... if you have a true winter tire than enjoy the car while you can. Sure the DWS will do ok, but it wont touch the Michelin in response or traction. 

Getting stuck in the situation you describe would be "ok"
I went all winter in NC, with much more snow than usual here with Hankook V12 summer tires and I managed.
And I have absolutely zero winter experience,  im a MS native.
2011 SHO - Tux Blk/blk int, 402B, acc, nav, multicontour, 20s. LMS 4X MyCal, 3bar MAP, K&N Typhoon, 170* t-stat, SP534's @ 30, Stainless Works catless DPs, Corsa catback, H&R sports, 5/16 front-7/16 rear spacer, 255/35 Hankook V12s, Lamin-X/PlastiDip

2004 Mustang GT - Comp Orange, Boss block/3.80 stroker 327", Foxlake TFS', Hellion turbo, blah blah

SHOdded

The DWS have a softer sidewall than the PSS.  So would be better for snow/ice.  But as noted above, if you already have dedicated winter setup, and like top notch response/handling, go with PSS.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

black99lightning

I've had good experience with the F1's.  Tire rack has them for $14x a tire + shipping, plus GY has an $80 rebate on 4.  Discounttiredirect has them at 161 shipped + the 80 rebate.

But if you prefer the other tires, does Michelin not make the PS AS3 in your size.  I've got the AS3 on my GT500, and it went 1.8x 60ft and 12.06 @ 117, stock except the change in tires.  They seem to be a fantastic tire.
2013 Esport 13.44 @ 103.6
1999 Lightning 12.44 @ 108.4
2012 GT500 10.96 @ 130.6
2006 GTO 12.83 @ 107.8
2013 CTSV coupe 11.79 @ 119.7

20ecoboost10

Pilot Super Sports for sure,I run them on my Flex in the summer and switch to Brigstone Blizzaks for winter time .I agree if you need a all season go with the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3

We also seem to have a lot of problems lately with Continental tires at work and have had to replace many sets do to customer complaints about noise and vibrations that are coming from the tires

Seems like the quality is going downhill

Cannot wait to put my PSS back on this weekend !
2010 Flex Limited Ecoboost

SHOdded

DWS are directional tires.  They being x-ed in rotation by any chance?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

mjhpadi

Just my 2 cents, but I would never buy another Michelin, on 3 different occasions Michelin (and their dealers) refused to offer any customer service to stand behind tire problems with their tires...and these were with tires that had pressure checked and regular rotation.  Not going into all the problems here (because I've discussed it before) while on the other hand I have had Continental's on all my motorcycles and never encountered any problems with them. So I would think the Continental's are a better bet, and also others that have had them seem pleased with them.
2010 Candy Red SHO, Livernois Stage 4 Tune, Airaid CAI, Tinted Headlamps & Tails, LED Interior Lighting, LED Running Lights, LED Puddle and License Plate Lamps, LED DRL's, Window Tint, Rear Window Spoiler, V3 Triton Switchback Running Lights, Colgan Bra, Ford Racing Gauges (oil pressure, oil temperature, boost/vacuum)
Replaced by 2020 Hertiage Edition GT-350

mval

bbox:
either choice should be choice is good. i went with the dws's, partial because my escape has conti's & are great & conti's are made right outside st louis. so far on wet roads, car is like glued to the road but that is in comparison to my goodyear rs-a or should i said badyears. wornout in the middle of all places with them never being over inflated can only mean one thing wrong tire for the wheel it was on. but had wear issue on my mopar with goodyears.

shooded- from what i read no xing for rotation, but could be wrong.
mikev
'10 lme 4+93, 160t, 3 bar, w/cust headrest & evo gauge pod,md design cai, ppe dpes, borla cback , vertini 20" cust wheels w/conti dws, ebc slotted rotors w/red pads & mgp caliper covers, viper remote start, cust dipped eng cover,fascia, cai & lids,decals, custom bra, black wrapped spoiler
2017 chally scat pack shaker yellow jacket dd, so sho can be a show queen

SHOdded

Correct no x-ing allowed with dws, f to b, and b to f only.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

TuxedoSHO

I've had the michelins on my SHO for the last 20k or so and couldn't be happier with them. I did catch a bit of snow this year and that wasn't pleasant at all, but for me, the positives far outweigh the negatives.

2010 Taurus SHO, Rapid Spec 402A, Non-PP
K&N CAI, Livernois Catted Downpipes, Corsa Catback, Livernois Stage 4+ X Tune, EBC Slotted Rotors, EBC Red Stuff Pads, LMS 160* Thermostat, 3 Bar Map Sensor, Colder NGK  Iridium Plugs, BOV VTA,
20" TSW Nurburgrings Wrapped in Michelin Pilot Super Sports, 15% 3M Tints All Around, Tinted Tail Lights, Dipped Tail Light Chrome, Grille & Fogs
Best Time Yet: 12.76 @ 107MPH

FracaSHO

I purchased the continental's. After 3 weeks I went back to Discount Tire and swapped them for the Michelins. The Conti's were to soft in the corners for my taste. But if you have dedicated winter tires, why don't you go with summer tires?


Brad
2010 SHO with PP
170* T-Stat
NGK LTR7IX plugs, gap at 0.030
BOV VTA
MyCal LMS Stage 4+
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Brad
2010 Tuxedo Black SHO w/ PP

BiGMaC

Quote from: FracaSHO on April 02, 2014, 01:58:56 PM
I purchased the continental's. After 3 weeks I went back to Discount Tire and swapped them for the Michelins. The Conti's were to soft in the corners for my taste. But if you have dedicated winter tires, why don't you go with summer tires?

Brad... Did the ride stiffen any with the tire exchange?  seems like sidewalk stiffness may have been the biggest factor here.

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•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

BBOX

Quote from: TuxedoSHO on April 02, 2014, 01:35:15 PM
I've had the michelins on my SHO for the last 20k or so and couldn't be happier with them. I did catch a bit of snow this year and that wasn't pleasant at all, but for me, the positives far outweigh the negatives.

This is what I was looking for, someone with some experience. How much snow are we talking and how unpleasant was it? I'm still leaning towards the Michelin's since I'll be running dedicated winter tires when the weather is theoretically the worst, but as I'm sure you know, Mother Nature likes to f**k with us upper Midwesterners once in a while and do s*** like snow in April after it's been nice for weeks, I just wanna make sure I'm not gonna end up wrapping the car around a telephone pole or something like that if I get caught out in a random snow storm with summer tires on or something crazy like that.

BBOX

Quote from: FracaSHO on April 02, 2014, 01:58:56 PM
I purchased the continental's. After 3 weeks I went back to Discount Tire and swapped them for the Michelins. The Conti's were to soft in the corners for my taste. But if you have dedicated winter tires, why don't you go with summer tires?


Brad
2010 SHO with PP
170* T-Stat
NGK LTR7IX plugs, gap at 0.030
BOV VTA
MyCal LMS Stage 4+
Sent from my iPhone

Well, I'm pretty sure I am, I just wanted some thoughts before I made a final decision. We kick around the same general area so you know Mother Nature can be cruel and blindside us with snow in April, stuff like that, I just wanna make sure that summer tires would not be a total disaster in a situation like that.

TuxedoSHO

Been traveling back and forth between Ohio and Michigan for work all winter. I ended up running the PSS all through this winter, although I wouldn't do it again. The car was still driveable but if I stepped on either pedal too hard, the car would slide. It was worst on packed snow or ice. I did however manage to get from Kalamazoo to Detroit through that massive storm in January that shut the state down for a couple days, but it took me almost twice as long. I'd say go with the Michelins, especially since you'll have dedicated winter tires.

... if you happen to get caught in a blizzard this summer, try to resist any WOT runs in 6 inches of snow or more and you should be fine.

2010 Taurus SHO, Rapid Spec 402A, Non-PP
K&N CAI, Livernois Catted Downpipes, Corsa Catback, Livernois Stage 4+ X Tune, EBC Slotted Rotors, EBC Red Stuff Pads, LMS 160* Thermostat, 3 Bar Map Sensor, Colder NGK  Iridium Plugs, BOV VTA,
20" TSW Nurburgrings Wrapped in Michelin Pilot Super Sports, 15% 3M Tints All Around, Tinted Tail Lights, Dipped Tail Light Chrome, Grille & Fogs
Best Time Yet: 12.76 @ 107MPH