Damn that is serious miles. The isx motors and all iof the current modern diesel are very picky and have much higher faiilure rates of injectors. Sounds like a nice truck swamp rat. I drive a 2004 petebilt 379 long hood flattop 550 c15 acert 18 speed with 940,000 miles. Jusr had to replace the ecm last week. Its amazing you havent had to replace injectors yet

Quote from: mjhpadi on March 29, 2014, 04:13:16 PM
I agree with this, I had the BG service done to my car at about 23K miles and I believe my dealer charged around $70.00 for the service.  I also agree that the BG service is the best available, I also had the BG service done performed on the PTU when I had the grease changed at 25K. Plan on having the BG done on the transmission and differential when I have the fluid/grease changed at 30K miles.

Thanks for the input Mark...
I'll definitely look into the BG service when I get to 20-25K miles when I plan for the PTU service and do the fuel system then too.  Found a Ford dealer about 17 miles away that offers it... it's where I bought the wife's truck... Want a Ford house to do it due to warranty and best availability of OEM PTU parts in case of a problem.

Likely I'll use either the 3-M or the Techron concentrate for the fuel system until that time.

Quote from: BiGMaC on March 29, 2014, 04:39:57 PM
Likely I'll use either the 3-M or the Techron concentrate for the fuel system until that time.

And that would be a good, wallet-friendly approach IMHO.  BG services are the tops, in my experience, so allotting funds for them like a coolant flush, brake flush or trans flush every 25K-30K is a great game plan if you can roll with it.

Quote from: panther427 on March 29, 2014, 04:26:21 PM
Damn that is serious miles. The isx motors and all iof the current modern diesel are very picky and have much higher faiilure rates of injectors. Sounds like a nice truck swamp rat. I drive a 2004 petebilt 379 long hood flattop 550 c15 acert 18 speed with 940,000 miles. Jusr had to replace the ecm last week. Its amazing you havent had to replace injectors yet

http://www.bgfindashop.com/locator/index.php


Just trying to stress that BG  KNOWS THERE STUFF , especially when it comes to fuel systems .

I know my 2nd post on this is a long one but there is good info in there from BG .

As I said in the prior post BG addresses many of the same issues that Tracy at RX does.

As I see it , with injector failure seemingly becoming somewhat more frequent in these engines ; preventive measures against this need more consideration .

I was really surprised that my dealer offers the complete line of BG services.  They really don't push it, I discovered that they were an authorized dealer when the service manager suggested that our Sable should have the fuel service done and explained that they were a BG dealer.  I was extremely pleased with how much cleaner the entire upper part of the Sable's engine looked after cleaning...and this was at about 150K miles.  So I really think it's worth the cost for the cleaning, I am certainly sold on it, and because it's from my Ford dealer and they have never once "pushed" the BG services I think they really speak for themselves.

So Ford offers a cleaning service?
I have 41k miles and while I do my best touse only Top Tier 93 octane it just doesnt always happen.

I picked up 20oz of Techron concentrate today and I'll add it next fill up and I'll prob do that a few tanks in a row... and then every four or five thereafter.

Anybody done the 3m or BG stepped process and then used a boroscope? I want them clean, even if I have to pull it apart, then do a simple BG kit every or every other oil change.

Quote from: SHODYOU on March 29, 2014, 05:27:10 PM
So Ford offers a cleaning service?
I have 41k miles and while I do my best touse only Top Tier 93 octane it just doesnt always happen.

I picked up 20oz of Techron concentrate today and I'll add it next fill up and I'll prob do that a few tanks in a row... and then every four or five thereafter.

Anybody done the 3m or BG stepped process and then used a boroscope? I want them clean, even if I have to pull it apart, then do a simple BG kit every or every other oil change.

My Ford dealer does the BG service, I also know that BG offers additives to add to the fuel to help keep the fuel system clean, I haven't used them, but I'm not sure how many Ford dealers are authorized BG dealers, if you check the BG website they will list all their dealers and what services they offer.

Hmm... just looked it up. The local Ford dealer here and my dads dealership back in MS both offer BG services.

Gonnabe making an appt

PRO GARD only every 1000 miles, Techron Concentrate Plus only every 3000 miles, that's the official recommendation from Chevron ...

Quote from: BiGMaC on March 29, 2014, 04:07:52 PM

Quote from: crash712us on March 29, 2014, 03:39:53 PM
3m fuel system cleaner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX5J5kZLTw4

Chris... Is this the one you use personally? TIA  I noticed that several manufacturers recommend it specifically for their gasoline DI engines.

Yes I used before I was running methanol. I have seen BG service tools and how they are used, why they provide a good service. Its not that much different then what 3m system does.
But prior to installing the meth injection I had planned on using the 3m system about every 15k for $30-$40 I think it great alternative.

Was there not a DIY thread on the 3M kit or was that at the "other" SHO site? I have one on the shelf and plan on doing it in the next week or so now that the weather has improved. If there is NOT a thread I will take some pics and post up a DIY....

so, i ended up going to Sears Auto center, because i had some credits available to use at Sears (including auto services, which i was unaware of), they also seem to have the lowest prices for the 3 stage cleaning.

i asked if they used BG products, going off of SwampRats recommendations, unfortunately (i assume) they used run-rite instead.  i told the service manager that my car has a DI, turbo motor; he said that was fine and that their service is fully compatible.  he also offered some incentives if i added a coolant flush service, both services out the door for around $140.  that was about the same price for just the 3 stage cleaning from the Lincoln dealer.  so i went ahead and got it done, with my credits i only paid around $40 directly out of pocket.

after the service i put some Shell gas in, resetted the MPG status and went about my Saturday.  i had a lot of errands and went out that night as well.  i actually drove nearly 90 miles all together.  the MPG meter ended up showing 20.3 MPG, with my normal spirited driving in both city and highway!  i was very happy with that figure, because before the cleaning i was getting about 16.6 MPG!

so maybe the car did have some built up carbon deposits that was negatively affecting it.  i'll report back on my observed MPG later on to see if the gains hold up...

That's cool   Always a +ve to have better MPG w/o loss of performance.

Has anyone had the terraclean treatment done to there cars ?


http://terraclean.net/product.php?id=1

Quote from: vernonator on March 30, 2014, 11:16:43 AM
Was there not a DIY thread on the 3M kit or was that at the "other" SHO site? I have one on the shelf and plan on doing it in the next week or so now that the weather has improved. If there is NOT a thread I will take some pics and post up a DIY....

Chris posted this link to a vid from 3M with how-to..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX5J5kZLTw4