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LMS tune updated v6 = less power?

Started by ShoBoat, March 28, 2014, 05:37:45 PM

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bpd1151

Is that on the non-touchscreen models?

Either way, correct.....

Requesting any/all files emailed as I suggested, would work as well.

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BiGMaC

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That is the newer no touch screen version.

You are correct about the tune files getting emailed. I understand all tunes written are kept on the LMS server identified by user/car.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

bpd1151

Got it :ok:

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BlueSHO

Quote from: ShoBoat on March 28, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
Ok something isn't right, coming back from a long drive a few WOT runs to 60 and I am getting a hesitation (sound like a misfire) pop pop pop. I have had the old tune in my car off and on for over a year. And other than the occasional shutdown from too much tire spin lol it ran perfect. I am now wishing I had the old tune back. What gives?

  Careful with that pop pop pop as a SHO here was killed here by 1 pop..

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1996 Mystic Cobra

ShoBoat

Quote from: JeffsSport on March 28, 2014, 10:13:31 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on March 28, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
Ok something isn't right, coming back from a long drive a few WOT runs to 60 and I am getting a hesitation (sound like a misfire) pop pop pop. I have had the old tune in my car off and on for over a year. And other than the occasional shutdown from too much tire spin lol it ran perfect. I am now wishing I had the old tune back. What gives?

  Careful with that pop pop pop as a SHO here was killed here by 1 pop..

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That sucks to say the least, in my case I believe that it is most likely a bad plug. I took the car out again and did a bit more logging, it doesn't miss all the time. Just under WOT and not always. No knocking reported by the computer, boost looked good and all other parameters looked normal too. I am going to change out the plugs tomorrow, for $30.00 it's an easy fix to say the least. I may not have noticed it before as I possibly didn't really drive that hard since I installed the plugs. Who knows, but for some reason it's missing at WOT and only sometimes. My laptop reported 7 misfire events during the drive, and nothing else. We shall see.... I'll let you guys know how I make out.

On another note when I plugged in my laptop I got a new DTC lol, it seems I have a bad heated mirror lol. So back to the dealer I go...... 
2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

SHOdded

Might want to return to stock tune before going to dealer, just in case.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ShoBoat

Quote from: SHOdded on March 29, 2014, 12:01:22 AM
Might want to return to stock tune before going to dealer, just in case.

Will do! Thanks
2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

ShoBoat

So I picked up another set of plugs from my local dealer, and weird that these were already at 0.030. The other set that I got were allover the place. Some at 0.040, 0.035. I will take it for a drive later today and do some logging and see what happens. I'll let you guys know. Also you may want to have an extra plug boot handy, as I found out when one of mine decided to stay on the plug and I had to use needle nose pliers to get it off the plug lol. 
2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

SHOdded

Remember when you could use a spark plug boot puller to assist in removal?  Well, I do :D  Hopefully this new set of plugs will do the trick :thumb:
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ShoBoat

^^Yes I do! ;). Is there any software that will show which cylinder the misfire occurred? The program I have only shows when it occurred not which cylinder.
2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

SHOdded

If you can pull the codes, you should see p0300 for random misfire, or p030x for specific cylinder misfire, I believe.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

BiGMaC

Quote from: SHOdded on March 29, 2014, 02:44:29 PM
If you can pull the codes, you should see p0300 for random misfire, or p030x for specific cylinder misfire, I believe.

That is correct Manu.  The cylinder numbering can be found here:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=2208.msg31602#msg31602

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

ShoBoat

Quote from: SHOdded on March 29, 2014, 02:44:29 PM
If you can pull the codes, you should see p0300 for random misfire, or p030x for specific cylinder misfire, I believe.

I pulled the codes and the only codes I got was the mirror and the sd card being ejected. Nothing about the misfire,
2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

crash712us

There is a allowable amount of miss fires before it will throw a code.

2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

BiGMaC

Quote from: crash712us on March 29, 2014, 03:35:58 PM
There is a allowable amount of miss fires before it will throw a code.
Chris... does that means that no cylinder is identified unless it individually reaches the threshold for a code and otherwise it's a generic P0300 code if multiple cylinders combined exceed the threshold?

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock