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Shopping for Tires

Started by Joleat, January 11, 2014, 06:31:05 PM

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Kolk1

Im now shopping for tires, and one quick thing id like to show people, if you go to like Tirerack and you are trying to compare 245s to 255s, just click the option for different size rear tires, and put in the 245s as fronts, and the 255s for the rear, and when shopping it will show both prices side by side. :D

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?customSizeSearch=true&frontWidth=245%2F&frontRatio=45&frontDiameter=20&rearWidth=255%2F&rearRatio=45&rearDiameter=20

WhitePlatinumSHO

#46
I went with Falken AT-722 last round. Excellent tire in all conditions and Pep Boys has them buy 3 get one free I think ($760 installed).
http://falkentire.com/tires/car-tires/azenis-pt722/s-tire

Disclaimer: All conditions = dry / rain. I live in Florida, so no snow testing done...
2016 Platinum White SHO
- Unleashed Tune & 3 Bar MAP

2010 Red Candy SHO - Gone but not forgotten
1997 Cobra Coupe - 659rwhp / 609rwtq

jcl78

Just had the GMAX AS-03's put on the SHO, I know they are new, but they are quieter than the Primacy's, handle road imperfections amazingly, are very comfortable and the turn in is very crisp. I have heard a few reviews saying they are "noisy" I guess I will have to wait and see. Being a directional tire, they will be noisier than a non-directional as they wear, just can't comment on that yet. I bought them for their great snow performance as well as wet / dry. The Kumho Excta 4X's were next on my list.

Joleat

I'm thoroughly enjoying the GMAX so far. If you haven't yet had the chance to test them in the snow, I think you'll be pleased when you do.
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jcl78

Hey thanks Joleat, I completely missed the post where you actually did go with the GMAX's. Man I am loving them so far, and we might have some light snow today to test them in. I love the handling, comfort and agressive tread design.

I was looking at the Firehawk Wide Oval AS as well, but there are very few reviews, and from looking at the complete lack of siping on the middle tread blocks I don't think their snow performance would be very good.

SHO-Pa

Good and timely post! I was noticing that the MXV4s on my 11 SHO are "sho"ing some cracking in the sidewall. They have been a good tire, but at 27k, I don't think they should have that much cracking in the sidewall. We've had this problem with Michelins before. Our Accord *had* them and had the same problem - cracking (dry rot) on the sidewall with plenty of tread left.

Anyway, I was also looking at the Firestone Wide Oval AS until I read this post. Thanks for the timely thread!
2011 SHO - stock
2016 Explorer XLT 2.3L "4wd"
2018 Focus Titanium

Kolk1

How are the Gmaxs comparing to the MXV4s as far as wot traction?

Joleat

I also noticed some cracking in my Michelins.

As far as WOT traction goes, I didn't have any issues with the Michelins and I still don't have any with the Generals. At 36psi, neither tire would spin upon take-off on dry pavement. I've launched from idle, from 1500rpms, and from 2000rpms as I've seen some others say that 2000rpms is optimal. No spinning. To be honest, I'm not sure what you (mostly stock) guys are doing to lose traction at launch, lol. Maybe my car just sucks! I plan to tune soon enough... we'll see if that changes anything.
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FracaSHO


Quote from: Joleat on February 25, 2014, 11:18:07 PM
I also noticed some cracking in my Michelins.

As far as WOT traction goes, I didn't have any issues with the Michelins and I still don't have any with the Generals. At 36psi, neither tire would spin upon take-off on dry pavement. I've launched from idle, from 1500rpms, and from 2000rpms as I've seen some others say that 2000rpms is optimal. No spinning. To be honest, I'm not sure what you (mostly stock) guys are doing to lose traction at launch, lol. Maybe my car just sucks! I plan to tune soon enough... we'll see if that changes anything.

Do you have the performance package?  The 3:16 gears and ability to shut off advance trac helps. In my experience, completely stock, I've launched at 2,000 to 2,200 RPM's and not spun. But after some practice I got the tires to break loose, and even squeak on the 1-2 shift. It's not very hard but it's not easy either. You have to do it just right to get a good tire squeal type launch.


Brad
2010 SHO with PP
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Brad
2010 Tuxedo Black SHO w/ PP

Kolk1

Intake, Catless exhaust, stage 4 tune, H&R springs is stock? I got ripped off then.

But yet you don't have a tune, and ask how we spin?

Joleat

Fraca,

No PP offered for the MKS.


Kolk,

Stop wearing your heart on your sleeve, lol. I wasn't talking about you specifically. I was speaking to a broad audience. I've seen several posts, here and other places, where SHO owners talk about traction issues. When I look at their mods, I see that some are stock and some just have a tune. I admit, I have no firsthand experience with a tuned SHO/MKS yet, but my past experience with tunes has not been life changing in the way that some claim. If you have more mods and are having traction issues, I'm not saying I don't believe you. I'll try not to hurt your feelings again. :D
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FracaSHO


Quote from: Joleat on February 26, 2014, 12:30:26 AM
Fraca,

No PP offered for the MKS.


Oops, didn't know you were referring to an MKS. it's gonna be hard to break the tires loose. But you should hit 60 before the 2-3 shift giving you good 0 to 60 times.


Brad
2010 SHO with PP
Sent from my iPhone
Brad
2010 Tuxedo Black SHO w/ PP

Joleat

No worries man!

I'd like to see a stock non-PP SHO vs a PP SHO just to see how the advantage of having lower gears in the PP car translates into on pavement performance. Obviously, on paper, they will allow you to accelerate faster, but it would be interesting to see where the "break even" point is. You mentioned a key point when you brought up hitting 60 before the 2-3 shift. Although, I think the PP cars are still slightly faster to 60 if you can believe everything you read on the internet. So, does a stock PP car take a stock non-PP in the 1/8 but maybe not the 1/4? Either way, I think it would be a driver's race, but it's fun food for thought!
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MeanKS

Quote from: SHO-Pa on February 25, 2014, 10:18:19 PM
Good and timely post! I was noticing that the MXV4s on my 11 SHO are "sho"ing some cracking in the sidewall. They have been a good tire, but at 27k, I don't think they should have that much cracking in the sidewall. We've had this problem with Michelins before. Our Accord *had* them and had the same problem - cracking (dry rot) on the sidewall with plenty of tread left.

Anyway, I was also looking at the Firestone Wide Oval AS until I read this post. Thanks for the timely thread!

i haven't noticed any cracking on my Primacies on my MKS, but i find the tire to be too hard and not have alot of grip!

but, they certainly have alot of tread life.  I want to get some new tires, but at 37K my Primacies still have alot of thread; ugh.  my frugality won't allow me to trash completely usable/safe tires...
MKS-EB...

DJE624

Quote from: DRII on February 26, 2014, 08:27:13 AM

i haven't noticed any cracking on my Primacies on my MKS, but i find the tire to be too hard and not have alot of grip!

But, they certainly have alot of tread life.  I want to get some new tires, but at 37K my Primacies still have alot of thread; ugh.  my frugality won't allow me to trash completely usable/safe tires...

Ditto my SHO!