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What Mods require a re-tune

Started by vernonator, February 11, 2014, 08:35:11 AM

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vernonator

February 11, 2014, 08:35:11 AM
I am running Livernois tunes (4/93) on my stock '12 PP SHO. I am looking to do some physical mods this spring, non-catted downpipes, 170deg thermo to start with maybe others to follow. What mods need a re-tune? I know things like Meth, upgraded turbo's etc are on the list, but what else on there?

Thanks guys...looking forward to some more hp in the SHO :)
2012 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP. Livernois Stage 4+, PPE Catless DP's, EBC Stage 4 Front/Rear Brakes
2015 Tuxedo Black Explorer Sport 401A, no mods....YET :)

DJE624

#1
February 11, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
You'll want to get revised tunes for the non catted pipes and tstat.

yowen

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February 11, 2014, 10:53:59 AM
Right on, you are doing the same mods I'm doing, we'll have to compare performance! Haha. As DJE said pretty much any of those mods require a revised tune, but as I understand it, all you have to do is let Livernois know and they'll send you and updated file.
2010 Taurus SHO, Tuxedo Black
Awaiting Installation: Catless Downpipes, LMS Tune, 3Bar Map Sensor

BiGMaC

#3
February 11, 2014, 11:20:38 AM
Quote from: vernonator on February 11, 2014, 08:35:11 AM
What mods need a re-tune? I know things like Meth, upgraded turbo's etc are on the list, but what else on there?
Quote from: yowen on February 11, 2014, 10:53:59 AM
Right on, you are doing the same mods I'm doing, we'll have to compare performance! Haha. As DJE said pretty much any of those mods require a revised tune, but as I understand it, all you have to do is let Livernois know and they'll send you and updated file.

Just to get the terminology straight... The downpipes and T-stat don't "require" a tune mod... but if you want the most performance enhancement from these mods it would be best to get a tune adjustment.  The T-stat, as well as the spark plug change to lower heat range with re-gap is recommended. For these mods LMS and Unleashed can both do this for original tunes files when you order or as free tweaks to tunes of existing customers.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

yowen

#4
February 11, 2014, 02:38:19 PM
The OP mentioned getting catless downpipes which would require a revised tune to tune out the O2 sensors.
2010 Taurus SHO, Tuxedo Black
Awaiting Installation: Catless Downpipes, LMS Tune, 3Bar Map Sensor

BiGMaC

#5
February 11, 2014, 02:56:28 PM
Quote from: yowen on February 11, 2014, 02:38:19 PM
The OP mentioned getting catless downpipes which would require a revised tune to tune out the O2 sensors.
True

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

Livernois Motorsports

#6
February 12, 2014, 01:03:42 PM
Correct. You will need revised tune files for all of the following:

- Our Downpipes ( Catted/ without cats)
- Our Thermostat upgrade
- Our 3 Bar map sensor
- Our Meth Kit
- Our Upgraded turbos

BiGMaC

#7
February 19, 2014, 12:56:02 PM
Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on February 12, 2014, 01:03:42 PM
Correct. You will need revised tune files for all of the following:

- Our Downpipes ( Catted/ without cats)
- Our Thermostat upgrade
- Our 3 Bar map sensor
- Our Meth Kit
- Our Upgraded turbos

Brandon.. in the tune for the downpipes I understand the lower O2 sensor is turned off, is performance affected by leaving it on?  If so, how much? 

Is your 3Bar sensor the same as the Ford 3 Bar?

TIA

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

DJE624

#8
February 19, 2014, 01:07:28 PM
The only thing the rear O2 sensors do is throw a code if you don't have properly working cats.
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