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TPMS Sensor Warranty Coverage

Started by Joleat, December 31, 2013, 06:34:20 PM

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Joleat

Last week, while driving the MKS, a message popped up on dash that read "TIRE PRESSURE SYSTEM FAULT" and the tire pressure indicator lamp illuminated. I immediately pulled over to check the air pressure in the tires. When all four tires came back with the same PSI, I knew I was probably going to need visit the dealership. This is the 3rd visit for the 4th problem since May. The first three issues were the transmission valve body, a cracking leather seat, and a binding CV shaft, respectively. This car is killing my vacation day reserve, haha!

Anyway, back to the TPMS sensor. I scheduled a service appointment at one of my local dealerships this past Friday. After being told it would probably take less than an hour to repair, the service rep emerged an hour later to inform me that the only technician they had on duty could not get the car in training mode, which meant that the whole security module was likely toast and they would need to reschedule me at the end of the following week. I declined to schedule the appointment because I wanted to do some research before allowing them to tear into the car. A quick Google search yielded results as to how to put the car in training mode and also explained what most people are doing wrong when they cannot get the car in said mode. I would think that all technicians should be equipped with this skill, but that obviously isn't the case. That is a significant issue that Ford should address.

Yesterday, I phoned another local dealership and they were able to work me in the same day. They successfully put the car in training mode and made a quick diagnosis. It seems that replacing the front right TPMS sensor would be the remedy. Unfortunately, the part was out of stock, so they had to order it. I left the car with them overnight and returned earlier today to pick it up after the repair was complete. To my surprise, I was handed a bill for $81.28. I asked about warranty coverage and was told the car was out of the bumper-to-bumper warranty period of 36k miles. When I reminded the rep of Lincoln's 50k-mile bumper-to-bumper warranty, he said he would check with the service manager. The service manager seemed very unsure, but another worker in the room exclaimed that nothing related to the tires is covered under the bumper-to-bumper warranty, to which the service manager quickly agreed.

Since returning home, I've searched a few different Ford vehicle forums and the consensus seems to be that the TPMS sensors are covered as long as you do not have aftermarket wheels or the sensor wasn't damaged from replacing a tire. I do not fall into either of these scenarios. The car has the same tires as it did when I purchased it and the wheels are the factory equipped wheels. As I mentioned before, I was just driving down the road when the message appeared. On one of the websites I searching, an official from Ford even confirmed that TPMS sensors are covered under the bumper-to-bumper as long as the damage was not caused by the user.

The good news is that replacing the sensor did, in fact, fix the problem. The bad news is that I probably just paid $80+ for something that should have been covered by the warranty.

Has anyone else been through a similar experience?
Project: MKSinister-2011 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost-Tuxedo Black Metallic Exterior-Black Ultimate Leather Interior-EcoBoost Appearance Package-Unleashed SCT X4-3Bar MAP-SP534 Spark Plugs-Power Stop Drilled and Slotted Rotors and Evolution Ceramic Brake Pads-General G-Max AS-03 Tires-Debadged-Color Matched Grille-Anthracite Gray Wheels-Gloss Black Vinyl Over Chrome-35% Window Tint

BiGMaC

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What a bunch of the unknowing you encountered! Geez! I've never had an experience like that through twenty years and 6 new Fords.

I would burn the first dealer in the satisfaction survey ford will send you and never go back... that guy had an instruction book!. There's a place to name names and tell your story on the survey and Ford does read them. 

I would contact the GM, if not the owner, of the dealership who finally did the repair (since you already have the opinion of the service manager).  I would request they put it through FORD, who actually decides and pays for the warranty work dealers do anyway and ask why that wasn't done in the conditions you describe.

My dealer is pretty responsive... hopefully yours will be too.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOdded

Haven't seen anything in the warranty guide restricting/excluding TPMS coverage, would try calling Ford directly, like BiGMaC suggested.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Joleat

Thanks for the suggestions. I sent a detailed email to Ford Customer Service this morning. Hopefully, they'll be able to resolve this quickly.
Project: MKSinister-2011 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost-Tuxedo Black Metallic Exterior-Black Ultimate Leather Interior-EcoBoost Appearance Package-Unleashed SCT X4-3Bar MAP-SP534 Spark Plugs-Power Stop Drilled and Slotted Rotors and Evolution Ceramic Brake Pads-General G-Max AS-03 Tires-Debadged-Color Matched Grille-Anthracite Gray Wheels-Gloss Black Vinyl Over Chrome-35% Window Tint

TSS

you need to contact Lincoln customer care. You will get better results.  Really. :)
2010 Steel Blue Metallic MKS Ecoboost: LME 3-Bar Tuned; tint; 20" Factory rims Permachromed

2017 Summit White Buick Envision Premium AWD 2.0 Turbo
2017 Silver Cadillac XTS V-Sport Platinum  3.6 Twin Turbo; LME tuned.

MeanKS

this is one of the issues that will have to eventually be rectified if (I'm going to say when because I'm a Ford fan) Lincoln is to become a true luxury player!

the dealership experience for me has varied widely, from almost incompetent (probably to strong a word but very disappointing) to superb.  surprisingly the lone Lincoln dealership was not the best, but also not the worst.  I found my favorite which is a rather large Ford dealer in my area that is in the process of building a separate Lincoln service and dealer center.  they are excellent and very professional.  the only thing i would change is them using rental car companies for replacement vehicles when your car is in service...
MKS-EB...

Joleat

I just wanted to follow up on this thread. A Lincoln customer service representative named Jonathan called me earlier this evening and assured me that I would be receiving a full refund. He also said he would contact the dealership to explain that the TPMS system is, in fact, covered by the bumper-to-bumper warranty. I was surprised at how quickly someone contacted me to resolve this matter. At this point, I have to give Lincoln customer service two thumbs up.
Project: MKSinister-2011 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost-Tuxedo Black Metallic Exterior-Black Ultimate Leather Interior-EcoBoost Appearance Package-Unleashed SCT X4-3Bar MAP-SP534 Spark Plugs-Power Stop Drilled and Slotted Rotors and Evolution Ceramic Brake Pads-General G-Max AS-03 Tires-Debadged-Color Matched Grille-Anthracite Gray Wheels-Gloss Black Vinyl Over Chrome-35% Window Tint

BiGMaC

Happy to hear it!  On those few occasions in the last 40+ years FLM has been very responsive.  Especially on small "nuisance things to a customer".

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOdded

Great news, Joleat!  Glad to hear they took care of you, just like TSS said they would :)
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

DJE624

Glad to hear the news Joleat!  I like happy endings. 

IHeartGroceries

Justice! Glad they made right. :)

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