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First Ecoboost in the 11's!!!!!!!!!!!

Started by First-SHO, November 07, 2013, 04:18:58 PM

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bpd1151

Correct. I ask for clarification because I know I'll be eventually obtaining my newest dyno tune file through LMS to help compliment my own turbo upgrade.

Since there's been so much back -n- forth discussion as it relates to fuel upgrades, and whether they are necessary, I was hoping that FirstSHO can chime in, as to what he's seeing on his own vehicle, as it pertains to that subject matter.

I'm not only interested for me, and me alone, but also, the info would help others as well.

There's an entire separate chunk of mod money that will be necessary to be placed aside if upgrades (in whatever portions that it may entail) are deemed to be necessary.

FirstSHO's running a turbo upgrade himself, but I believe his are the Tial Motorsport upgraded turbos, which essentially involved enlarging the compressor wheel only, along with better seals throughout.

So I suppose my application will be somewhat different anyhow, as I am running the ATP upgraded turbos.

Does that help shed some light on why I find your comment on the "stock fuel system" and FirstSHO's achievement in breaking into the 11's as qualifying as being "interesting"?

Night Hawk

2017 Fusion Sport
GFB DivValve/165* Thermo
K&N Panel/CFM Breather
Ult Perf Int Garrett Core/MKZ oil cooler
FMS 70mm TB/ NGK .026/LMS V6 93

First-SHO

I am running stock fuel setup and yes meth.  There has been a ton of discussion on loosing fuel pressure at WOT.  I am not seeing that, but am using meth for additional fuel.  Through my entire run I stay on the rich side the complete run with no loss in pressure.  I am running Tial turbos which I am told are good for 30 psi.  We are only running 20-21 psi right now, so there is much room to move.  We plan on increasing boost and see how things go.

Thanks for all the congrats and hope to see more of you guys there.
Mike

Previous owner of the -
FASTEST 2011 Ford Taurus SHO on record @ 11.9519 115 mph
Silver/Black LOADED, Ford Lockpick, Forgestar F14"s 20x9.5 with Nitto Invo's, TCE Wilwood Front Big Brake Kit, Airaid CAI, Corsa Cat back, Livernois Down Pipes, Livernois Tune's, Megan Coilovers, Traction bar setup, Torrie - 170 F Thermo & Radiator, L&M Airflow Throttle Body "Only one made and I have it", Alkycontrol Meth Injection, Upgraded Tial Turbo's, 2013 Trans and Oil Cooler, LED's on always

EcoBrick Bob

Just remember.... YOU are the FIRST EB vehicle in the 11's!!!!  Someone may run faster but nobody has beaten you...

On a much smaller stage... I was the FIRST FLEX in the 12's.  Not sure it was worth the cost.  (OOPS?) but I too got 3 runs to back mine up.
2010 Red Candy/White EB Flex.. World's first 12 second Brick.. 12.904 @ 106.85 MPH - October 2011
2009 Spt. Red G8 GT - modded. best time 12.074 & 114.02 MPH
2008 White G8 GT - mods... 8.32 1/8 mi.

Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
Bob has decided not to post here any more, please do not PM him he will not receive it.

steve142857

Congrats Mike! Well diserved! So you are still the only one that has beaten my times so far... Lol
Considering the head winds, I agree that you could have lowered your ET by a tenth or two...
I believe 11's are achievable with stock turbos, just waiting for LMS to have XV1 available... Unfortunately, for me, I'll have to wait next year to get there.
What a feeling it must have been to see 11's!!!
I too saw 11 last weekend, but unfortunately it was preceeded by a 12 (12.11 lol).
Good job again!
2010 blue wrapped SHO 12.09 at 117.9mph - SOLD
2013 SHO PP 12.08 at 113.83mph...
Alky control, LMS tuned, custom exhaust, LMS catted downpipes, H&R springs, Tstat170, 3bar map, Airaid

shoman04

#20
Way to GO 1st-SHO. I think the traction sys you build and installed is the key. I WANT ONE!!!!!!
2011 KONA BLU SHO,Livernois Tune,AIRAID CAI,DYNOMAX MUFFLEs,Newest member of the 12sec CLUB 12.669sec @ 107mph    2011 Ford Taurus SHO: 12.669 @ 105.050 MPH NEW FOR 2013LMS down-pipe,Magnaflow X-pipe,and Custom 2.5"exhaust pipe!! Meth and stage 5 next to be install!!!!!! METH DYNO TUNE today 405AWHP!!!WOW LMS track day 12.4209sec   :mike1:

TuxedoSHO


2010 Taurus SHO, Rapid Spec 402A, Non-PP
K&N CAI, Livernois Catted Downpipes, Corsa Catback, Livernois Stage 4+ X Tune, EBC Slotted Rotors, EBC Red Stuff Pads, LMS 160* Thermostat, 3 Bar Map Sensor, Colder NGK  Iridium Plugs, BOV VTA,
20" TSW Nurburgrings Wrapped in Michelin Pilot Super Sports, 15% 3M Tints All Around, Tinted Tail Lights, Dipped Tail Light Chrome, Grille & Fogs
Best Time Yet: 12.76 @ 107MPH

Josephm

You don't even have the voltage booster or w/e it is for the fuel pump?
12' Flex EB
Unleashed X4
3rd Cat delete

First-SHO

Quote from: Josephm on November 07, 2013, 11:09:41 PM
You don't even have the voltage booster or w/e it is for the fuel pump?

LOL No
Mike

Previous owner of the -
FASTEST 2011 Ford Taurus SHO on record @ 11.9519 115 mph
Silver/Black LOADED, Ford Lockpick, Forgestar F14"s 20x9.5 with Nitto Invo's, TCE Wilwood Front Big Brake Kit, Airaid CAI, Corsa Cat back, Livernois Down Pipes, Livernois Tune's, Megan Coilovers, Traction bar setup, Torrie - 170 F Thermo & Radiator, L&M Airflow Throttle Body "Only one made and I have it", Alkycontrol Meth Injection, Upgraded Tial Turbo's, 2013 Trans and Oil Cooler, LED's on always

ecoboostsho

Congratulations!  That is awesome to see...
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

SRT82ECOBOOST

So happy to see that 11 seconds is possible without auxilary fuel upgrades beyond methanol. Hopefully we can also see someone pulll off the same feat without the upgraded turbos.
2013 SHO PP in White Platinum Metallic Tricoat, PPE Downpipes, Livernois Stage V8/3 Bar, Custom 2.5" Catback, 170 T-stat, Airaid CAI, H+R Springs and debadged
Boston Acoustics 2.1 Audio Upgrade

mhenne4

Congrats.  Great milestone with the ecoboost  platform!
2011 Silver SHO with PP
LMS Stage 4+

melc

and so, it has come to pass...That is Amazing!! Congrats!
2011 Black SHO PP
Livernois and Unleashed 91 octane tunes
Unleashed W/M system
Auxiliary trans cooler
AirAid CAI Eiback Springs LED lamps inside

EcoBrick Bob

Quote from: First-SHO on November 07, 2013, 07:29:42 PM
I am running stock fuel setup and yes meth.  There has been a ton of discussion on loosing fuel pressure at WOT.  I am not seeing that, but am using meth for additional fuel.  Through my entire run I stay on the rich side the complete run with no loss in pressure.  I am running Tial turbos which I am told are good for 30 psi.  We are only running 20-21 psi right now, so there is much room to move.  We plan on increasing boost and see how things go.

Thanks for all the congrats and hope to see more of you guys there.

Your supplementing your fuel system with Methanol has no effect on fuel pressures, either with the LPFP or FRP with the HPFP.  It only keeps A/F (lambda bank 1 & 2) within a safe range.  What are the minimal FRP numbers you are seeing?

When I was spraying with Methanol and using 3 bar sensor  and a tune that Torrie had cranked to nearly max boost with stock turbos, I saw FRP as low as 1,000 PSI.  Kenne Bell Boost a Pump helped raise that by about 200 PSI.  Lowest FRP for me was at the high RPM of 2nd gear.  After that the FRP increased, in part because the small stock turbos couldn't develop as much boost on a continuing basis.
2010 Red Candy/White EB Flex.. World's first 12 second Brick.. 12.904 @ 106.85 MPH - October 2011
2009 Spt. Red G8 GT - modded. best time 12.074 & 114.02 MPH
2008 White G8 GT - mods... 8.32 1/8 mi.

Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
Bob has decided not to post here any more, please do not PM him he will not receive it.

Fa-SHO

2013 SHO w/PP, x-pipe, dynomax mufflers, k&n drop-in filter, 170* t-stat, 3-bar MAP, LMS tune
1/8th: 8.71 @ 84 mph (factory stock)
1/8th: 8.18 @ 84 mph (above mods)
1/4: 12.80 @ 107 mph (above mods)