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livernoismotorsports Short block failed

Started by Mo7ammed, May 25, 2022, 02:23:54 PM

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Mo7ammed

May 25, 2022, 02:23:54 PM
Hi Guys,

We had an engine failed that is built by Livernoise, the owner purchased the closed deck short block.
now, we opened the block and trying to rebuild it, i emailed and called them for the engine specs (clearnaces - bore size, .. etc) but no reply.they are ghosting me completely.
anyhow, here is what we think we know:
- the head studs seems like the stock ones!- cylinders are sleeved! that's not mentioned in the website and I don't know why they sleeved it.
- the piston bore is 3.650, I don't know any reputable manufacture that following this size in their options, I assume we need to oversize the cylinders.- rods are not turbo rods, seems like Manley's but not sure.- pistons are not similar to any turbo forged pistons design, (Manley, JE...etc).
here are some pictures and if you can help with specs that they are following and what piston rings they are using I would appreciate it.


Ta2dResqr

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May 25, 2022, 05:39:02 PM Last Edit: May 25, 2022, 05:52:38 PM by Ta2dResqr
JE Piston Ultra series? They have some similar-looking domes. They have a gold coating like the pictures on LMS. They use a 6 digit part number. They offer custom pistons. Try checking on the bottom of the piston in the wrist pin valley. May or may not have a JE logo. If they order a large quantity, they may be willing to omit it for them.

Engine labs has a couple articles about their build. Talks about the 10:1 compression ration (JE offers) and same materials.

LMS Race engine does claim sleeves currently on their page.
Lucy Ford 2015 Ruby Red Tinted Clearcoat Metallic, GearHead AO Performance Tuned - SCT X4, GearHead Intercooler, 3-Bar MAP, EPP Hot Pipes (Plum Crazy), EPP Dual Intake (Plum Crazy), AD Mounts, MSD Coils, JLT Oil Separator, 160 Thermostat, Ortiz Performance Battery Hold Down (Plum Crazy), Hellcat LPFP, 255/45R20 DSW06 Plus, Sync3 Conversion, CYANLabs Syn3, FMods, Jail Broke APIM, Infinity Kappa Speakers, Speaker Baffles, Whelen POV Response Package - (Inner Edge FST, Inner Edge RST, Sidekick, Tracer, LINV2, IONV3, HHS 200W, Howler 200W), Z-Flash, Full LED Swap, Drive Bright DRL Kit, Drive Bright Puddle Light Kit, Ford Sunroof Visor, Window Chrome Delete, OSRAM XENARC Night Breaker Laser, FORScan, OBDLink, Ford Cargo Organizer

Ta2dResqr

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May 25, 2022, 05:40:09 PM Last Edit: May 25, 2022, 05:54:37 PM by Ta2dResqr
Lucy Ford 2015 Ruby Red Tinted Clearcoat Metallic, GearHead AO Performance Tuned - SCT X4, GearHead Intercooler, 3-Bar MAP, EPP Hot Pipes (Plum Crazy), EPP Dual Intake (Plum Crazy), AD Mounts, MSD Coils, JLT Oil Separator, 160 Thermostat, Ortiz Performance Battery Hold Down (Plum Crazy), Hellcat LPFP, 255/45R20 DSW06 Plus, Sync3 Conversion, CYANLabs Syn3, FMods, Jail Broke APIM, Infinity Kappa Speakers, Speaker Baffles, Whelen POV Response Package - (Inner Edge FST, Inner Edge RST, Sidekick, Tracer, LINV2, IONV3, HHS 200W, Howler 200W), Z-Flash, Full LED Swap, Drive Bright DRL Kit, Drive Bright Puddle Light Kit, Ford Sunroof Visor, Window Chrome Delete, OSRAM XENARC Night Breaker Laser, FORScan, OBDLink, Ford Cargo Organizer

Ecoboost_xsport

#3
May 26, 2022, 09:55:28 PM
Livernois for the fail...who would've thought...LOLOLOLOL

802SHO

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May 27, 2022, 07:11:58 AM Last Edit: May 27, 2022, 07:19:00 AM by 802SHO
Wow!  You never win with LME
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DV85

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May 27, 2022, 10:07:55 AM Last Edit: May 27, 2022, 10:25:40 AM by DV85
the powerstorm 3.5 block package has always come with sleeved cylinders, at least with the 2 blocks we have had built by LMS had them, which was known from the start of the build.  like everyone here i have experienced frustrations with LMS but overall have been happy working with them.  hoping to get our 13 SHO back out to Milan now that its opening up and improve on the 11.69 time from 2019.

SM105K

#6
May 31, 2022, 02:49:30 PM
Geez....what a s*** show.
"M" 2013 SHO PP | AJPTurbo E30 Tune | FS HPFP | Stock IC with Ice Water DIY Sprayer | PPE Downpipes | Custom Magnaflow Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete | Derale Upgraded Trans Cooler | Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts| EPP Noisemaker Eliminator | MSD Coil Over Plugs | SP-542's | UPR Dual Valve Catch Can | K&N Drop In | Power Stop Slotted and Drilled Rotors with Stock PP Pads | H&R Springs  | AVS Flush Deflector | 802SHO Custom Splitter | Duraflex Chin Spoiler | Curva Concept C7's | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber | 411 HP and 546 TQ |

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Mo7ammed

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May 31, 2022, 03:04:52 PM Last Edit: May 31, 2022, 03:11:37 PM by Mo7ammed
Quote from: DV85 on May 27, 2022, 10:07:55 AM
the powerstorm 3.5 block package has always come with sleeved cylinders, at least with the 2 blocks we have had built by LMS had them, which was known from the start of the build.  like everyone here i have experienced frustrations with LMS but overall have been happy working with them.  hoping to get our 13 SHO back out to Milan now that its opening up and improve on the 11.69 time from 2019.
It should be listed in the website that they will sleeve it.

Not a small detail to be ignored not to mention the power storm head bolts (stock bolts as we found)!!!

A vague and misleading business conduct as far as i see till the moment.

Zero replies to my mails and no customer support whatsoever.

Thanks to Ryan (RMB) a great guy who jumped to the help once I reached out to him in his account.

Ta2dResqr

#8
May 31, 2022, 03:51:21 PM
Quote from: Mo7ammed on May 31, 2022, 03:04:52 PM
Quote from: DV85 on May 27, 2022, 10:07:55 AM
the powerstorm 3.5 block package has always come with sleeved cylinders, at least with the 2 blocks we have had built by LMS had them, which was known from the start of the build.  like everyone here i have experienced frustrations with LMS but overall have been happy working with them.  hoping to get our 13 SHO back out to Milan now that its opening up and improve on the 11.69 time from 2019.
It should be listed in the website that they will sleeve it.

Not a small detail to be ignored not to mention the power storm head bolts (stock bolts as we found)!!!

A vague and misleading business conduct as far as i see till the moment.

Zero replies to my mails and no customer support whatsoever.

Thanks to Ryan (RMB) a great guy who jumped to the help once I reached out to him in his account.

https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP750101/powerstorm-ford-3-5l-ecoboost-race-series-shortblock

This 3.5 liter Ford Ecoboost short block features a new Ford Block with Livernois Exclusive sleeves and a billet upper block support.

Like that? It is literally called out in the description.
Lucy Ford 2015 Ruby Red Tinted Clearcoat Metallic, GearHead AO Performance Tuned - SCT X4, GearHead Intercooler, 3-Bar MAP, EPP Hot Pipes (Plum Crazy), EPP Dual Intake (Plum Crazy), AD Mounts, MSD Coils, JLT Oil Separator, 160 Thermostat, Ortiz Performance Battery Hold Down (Plum Crazy), Hellcat LPFP, 255/45R20 DSW06 Plus, Sync3 Conversion, CYANLabs Syn3, FMods, Jail Broke APIM, Infinity Kappa Speakers, Speaker Baffles, Whelen POV Response Package - (Inner Edge FST, Inner Edge RST, Sidekick, Tracer, LINV2, IONV3, HHS 200W, Howler 200W), Z-Flash, Full LED Swap, Drive Bright DRL Kit, Drive Bright Puddle Light Kit, Ford Sunroof Visor, Window Chrome Delete, OSRAM XENARC Night Breaker Laser, FORScan, OBDLink, Ford Cargo Organizer
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