New SHO owner with problems

My15SHO · July 17, 2020, 02:19:45 PM

When I was reading about this I saw a mention of "break in" oil. Is that necessary? Just use regular or synthetic?

TopherSho · July 17, 2020, 03:07:58 PM

The block if it has already been 'run in' will have had the oil changed and any break in lube will have been removed. I would not add any additives or break in oil once it is installed. Just run synthectic 5-20 or 5-30 as required by the block... after say 2000 miles then maybe add in small amounts of ZDDP oil as your car beliefs require, but for the initial 2000 miles dont mess with the break in process by adding other things besides really good oil.

My15SHO · July 23, 2020, 05:20:02 PM

Car is back, new engine installed along with three pages of various parts and fluids (distilled water?) Seems to drive good, idles nice and quiet, one BIG difference..... i can hear the blow off valve, loudly. I never heard a peep out of it before, could that have been an issue? Are these 3.5's suppposed to have a loud BOV?

76fomoco · July 23, 2020, 06:05:07 PM

the Bov's (2) are on the cross tube in the center top of the motor. they dump back into the intake it runs front to back. if the hoses didn't get put back to the intake it will be very loud. Post a picture of your motor with the black engine cover off.

TopherSho · July 24, 2020, 01:58:17 PM

Quote from: My15SHO on July 23, 2020, 05:20:02 PM
Car is back, new engine installed along with three pages of various parts and fluids (distilled water?) Seems to drive good, idles nice and quiet, one BIG difference..... i can hear the blow off valve, loudly. I never heard a peep out of it before, could that have been an issue? Are these 3.5's suppposed to have a loud BOV?

This can also occur if the Boost control solenoid is open/busted : https://www.getoemparts.com/oem-parts/ford-turbocharger-boost-solenoid-bl3z9k378a?origin=pla&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjer4BRCZARIsABK4QeVREO4_5tRf11N-hQqT2YLbVw05NkZlj6fuItpfER6-4payI9AN7vAaAk0yEALw_wcB

My15SHO · July 24, 2020, 09:03:25 PM

I got about 20 miles out of it before the "Charging system" set off the warning light, then the power steering went out intermittently, the a/c stayed at one speed, lane keep stopped working, shifted funky, ended up with an orange wrench light and in limp mode literally as i turned into the dealership. Somehow i knew an entire engine getting reinstalled trouble free the first time around was wishful thinking. Oh well. Now its an F150 until they get it fixed. I was in an Ecosport for the past 6 weeks.

SM105K · July 25, 2020, 10:11:04 AM

How old is the battery?

My15SHO · July 25, 2020, 02:47:38 PM

I suppose the logical path is the alternator / battery. I didnt own the car long enough to really notice the battery date, i would assume with the extent of the repairs done some form of battery diagnostic would have been done. I suppose one fuse or connector missed and the car runs the battery dead and it stops. The car drove great until that charging system light came on. It gradually went down hill as i drove back to the dealer which to me sounds like battery drain from a improper charging system, where the "improper" part is will be interesting. Although now that i think of it when starting i noticed it took a few more "turns" when pushing the button to start

SM105K · July 25, 2020, 05:24:56 PM

Quote from: My15SHO on July 25, 2020, 02:47:38 PM
I suppose the logical path is the alternator / battery. I didnt own the car long enough to really notice the battery date, i would assume with the extent of the repairs done some form of battery diagnostic would have been done. I suppose one fuse or connector missed and the car runs the battery dead and it stops. The car drove great until that charging system light came on. It gradually went down hill as i drove back to the dealer which to me sounds like battery drain from a improper charging system, where the "improper" part is will be interesting. Although now that i think of it when starting i noticed it took a few more "turns" when pushing the button to start

These car eat batteries. One day it will be fine, next day battery is donzo.

ridered74 · July 26, 2020, 01:19:49 AM

Quote from: SM105K on July 25, 2020, 05:24:56 PM
Quote from: My15SHO on July 25, 2020, 02:47:38 PM
I suppose the logical path is the alternator / battery. I didnt own the car long enough to really notice the battery date, i would assume with the extent of the repairs done some form of battery diagnostic would have been done. I suppose one fuse or connector missed and the car runs the battery dead and it stops. The car drove great until that charging system light came on. It gradually went down hill as i drove back to the dealer which to me sounds like battery drain from a improper charging system, where the "improper" part is will be interesting. Although now that i think of it when starting i noticed it took a few more "turns" when pushing the button to start

These car eat batteries. One day it will be fine, next day battery is donzo.

My last one I noticed that the starter seemed a little slower than normal. Drove it for 45 minutes and was actually going to replace it before it died. Drove 30 minutes to stop at home to get tools to swap battery at the parts store, came out of the house and it would not turn over. Since batteries are cheap and being stranded is not, I will replace the battery from now on after it has seen two winters.

jims2015 · July 26, 2020, 03:09:39 PM

Quote from: ridered74 on July 26, 2020, 01:19:49 AM
Quote from: SM105K on July 25, 2020, 05:24:56 PM
Quote from: My15SHO on July 25, 2020, 02:47:38 PM
I suppose the logical path is the alternator / battery. I didnt own the car long enough to really notice the battery date, i would assume with the extent of the repairs done some form of battery diagnostic would have been done. I suppose one fuse or connector missed and the car runs the battery dead and it stops. The car drove great until that charging system light came on. It gradually went down hill as i drove back to the dealer which to me sounds like battery drain from a improper charging system, where the "improper" part is will be interesting. Although now that i think of it when starting i noticed it took a few more "turns" when pushing the button to start

These car eat batteries. One day it will be fine, next day battery is donzo.

My last one I noticed that the starter seemed a little slower than normal. Drove it for 45 minutes and was actually going to replace it before it died. Drove 30 minutes to stop at home to get tools to swap battery at the parts store, came out of the house and it would not turn over. Since batteries are cheap and being stranded is not, I will replace the battery from now on after it has seen two winters.

Same as mine. At exactly 3 years from taking it off the showroom, it turned over slower than usual. Then the next start didn't happen.

76fomoco · July 26, 2020, 06:05:20 PM

Quote from: jims2015 on July 26, 2020, 03:09:39 PM
Quote from: ridered74 on July 26, 2020, 01:19:49 AM
Quote from: SM105K on July 25, 2020, 05:24:56 PM
Quote from: My15SHO on July 25, 2020, 02:47:38 PM
I suppose the logical path is the alternator / battery. I didnt own the car long enough to really notice the battery date, i would assume with the extent of the repairs done some form of battery diagnostic would have been done. I suppose one fuse or connector missed and the car runs the battery dead and it stops. The car drove great until that charging system light came on. It gradually went down hill as i drove back to the dealer which to me sounds like battery drain from a improper charging system, where the "improper" part is will be interesting. Although now that i think of it when starting i noticed it took a few more "turns" when pushing the button to start

These car eat batteries. One day it will be fine, next day battery is donzo.

My last one I noticed that the starter seemed a little slower than normal. Drove it for 45 minutes and was actually going to replace it before it died. Drove 30 minutes to stop at home to get tools to swap battery at the parts store, came out of the house and it would not turn over. Since batteries are cheap and being stranded is not, I will replace the battery from now on after it has seen two winters.

Same as mine. At exactly 3 years from taking it off the showroom, it turned over slower than usual. Then the next start didn't happen.

on 3rd battery and each is just like this^^^^^ one or two days with slow starting and it heads south fast!

My15SHO · July 27, 2020, 01:58:25 PM

I get the battery going dead and preventing starting, but after its started and running, why would the battery cause the issues i had? Am i too old school in thinking it runs off the alternator once started? That power is run thru the battery but does a bad battery not allow that? I suppose after it sitting in a bay for 6 weeks and its all put back together the battery could take a dump quick.

SM105K · July 27, 2020, 02:17:51 PM

Quote from: My15SHO on July 27, 2020, 01:58:25 PM
I get the battery going dead and preventing starting, but after its started and running, why would the battery cause the issues i had? Am i too old school in thinking it runs off the alternator once started? That power is run thru the battery but does a bad battery not allow that? I suppose after it sitting in a bay for 6 weeks and its all put back together the battery could take a dump quick.

I chalk it up to one of the SHO mysteries. My car completely freaked out when my battery started tanking. The dash freaked out, my climate controls freaked out, my back up camera flipped upside down.

I replaced the battery and all those issues went away.

802SHO · July 27, 2020, 09:57:14 PM

I had to replace my battery after the first winter I started using a battery tender. It never actually died but it was about to. I took it out for a drive and put it back on the tender only the tender light stayed red for a couple days after which isn't normal. New battery stayed on a tender as soon as I would park it in the garage. Now I upgraded to a lightweight battery and that stays on a tender as well. Maybe buy a battery tender....keep it full at all times.

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