Phenolic Spacers

802SHO · June 21, 2020, 08:41:41 PM

Yeah I mean if this was installed my car I would have a data log to share compared to before the spacer and after showing a timed idle heat soak and some sort of WOT data before and after installation of the spacer all other mods being equal and similar ambient temp. So I'm just so puzzled that you posted this on FB and said...after towing for a bit uphill IAT2 was 90° cooler than coolant temp...and that's it?

Just for all the waiting and waiting ..for this...that's first look? Great. I have no clue how much better it is. None, zip, zilch lol!

Hopefully not offending anyone but I mean if I was the lucky revealer I would have nailed the key performance benefits for being either an advantage or inconclusive but more specific and in line with what the spacer is used for. Right now we "think" if you tow often...it could be better now?

I would really hope somone would bust my balls if the shoe was on the other foot.

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ridered74 · June 21, 2020, 11:32:56 PM

Quote from: 802SHO on June 21, 2020, 08:41:41 PM
Yeah I mean if this was installed my car I would have a data log to share compared to before the spacer and after showing a timed idle heat soak and some sort of WOT data before and after installation of the spacer all other mods being equal and similar ambient temp. So I'm just so puzzled that you posted this on FB and said...after towing for a bit uphill IAT2 was 90° cooler than coolant temp...and that's it?

Just for all the waiting and waiting ..for this...that's first look? Great. I have no clue how much better it is. None, zip, zilch lol!

Hopefully not offending anyone but I mean if I was the lucky revealer I would have nailed the key performance benefits for being either an advantage or inconclusive but more specific and in line with what the spacer is used for. Right now we "think" if you tow often...it could be better now?

I would really hope somone would bust my balls if the shoe was on the other foot.

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I felt the same way about the willwood brake upgrade kit, but apparently I was the only one with reservations of only a single dragy test and then calling it good, and this spacer costs one tenth of the brake "upgrade" kit. Crazy how that works I guess.

I'm on the list for this so if nobody else can get some heat soak data, I will be happy to test it out myself and provide data. I have been to the track enough in the past and plan to continue in the future that it will be obvious quick whether it helps heat soak at the line or not. My data logs don't have ambient temperature so past logs won't help much, but next couple trips to the track I'll start keeping track of how hot it is outside and mark my logs so I have comparisons vs once I get the spacer.

802SHO · June 22, 2020, 06:10:49 AM

Yes that would make sense. I'm on the list too number 4 in line I believe. Emailed them back in January, unless someone else is AB? I'm going to purchase this spacer whenever I get my email sent with a link to PayPal, but it certainly would be nice to have more concrete data prior to purchase. Doesn't Matt Robinson have one? Maybe he'll reveal some dyno results with this. I read somewhere he mentioned something about runner length with this spacer and that it "should" be a benefit. This item at @$159 the price is certainly right. And install looks straightforward. All foreplay and no climax...yet.

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StealBlueSho · June 22, 2020, 08:39:53 AM

Quote from: 802SHO on June 22, 2020, 06:10:49 AM
Yes that would make sense. I'm on the list too number 4 in line I believe. Emailed them back in January, unless someone else is AB? I'm going to purchase this spacer whenever I get my email sent with a link to PayPal, but it certainly would be nice to have more concrete data prior to purchase. Doesn't Matt Robinson have one? Maybe he'll reveal some dyno results with this. I read somewhere he mentioned something about runner length with this spacer and that it "should" be a benefit. This item at @$159 the price is certainly right. And install looks straightforward. All foreplay and no climax...yet.

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Agree. Would love to see some solid data...

A few data points on temps at the intake after a 1/4 mile run with the stock setup.

A few data points on temps at the intake after a 1/4 mile run with the spacer setup.

I would hope to see a significant drop in heats soak at the manifold...

802SHO · June 22, 2020, 09:46:06 AM

Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 22, 2020, 08:39:53 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 22, 2020, 06:10:49 AM
Yes that would make sense. I'm on the list too number 4 in line I believe. Emailed them back in January, unless someone else is AB? I'm going to purchase this spacer whenever I get my email sent with a link to PayPal, but it certainly would be nice to have more concrete data prior to purchase. Doesn't Matt Robinson have one? Maybe he'll reveal some dyno results with this. I read somewhere he mentioned something about runner length with this spacer and that it "should" be a benefit. This item at @$159 the price is certainly right. And install looks straightforward. All foreplay and no climax...yet.

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Agree. Would love to see some solid data...

A few data points on temps at the intake after a 1/4 mile run with the stock setup.

A few data points on temps at the intake after a 1/4 mile run with the spacer setup.

I would hope to see a significant drop in heats soak at the manifold...

Yes and a solid tenth faster I would like to think at least.

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4sfed · June 22, 2020, 09:51:56 AM

Honestly....dyno and track runs aside, I'd settle for information like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYguPadP2Uo

Since I'm now on the list as well, I'll be buying one of these infrared temp thingies, and reporting back. I'm not high on the list though....so it might not be anytime soon.

StealBlueSho · June 22, 2020, 09:52:52 AM

Quote from: 802SHO on June 22, 2020, 09:46:06 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on June 22, 2020, 08:39:53 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 22, 2020, 06:10:49 AM
Yes that would make sense. I'm on the list too number 4 in line I believe. Emailed them back in January, unless someone else is AB? I'm going to purchase this spacer whenever I get my email sent with a link to PayPal, but it certainly would be nice to have more concrete data prior to purchase. Doesn't Matt Robinson have one? Maybe he'll reveal some dyno results with this. I read somewhere he mentioned something about runner length with this spacer and that it "should" be a benefit. This item at @$159 the price is certainly right. And install looks straightforward. All foreplay and no climax...yet.

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Agree. Would love to see some solid data...

A few data points on temps at the intake after a 1/4 mile run with the stock setup.

A few data points on temps at the intake after a 1/4 mile run with the spacer setup.

I would hope to see a significant drop in heats soak at the manifold...
Yes and a solid tenth faster I would like to think at least.

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Hmm... I think that would depend on the conditions.. if you are already spraying methanol or have the GH intercooler then I would think it would really depend. The idea here is to prevent as much heat transfer as possible from the heads to the intake manifold right? The IAT2 sensor at the top dramatically cools down as cooler air passes over it and even faster combined with methanol.

My assumption with this is that it will help inbetween runs to allow for more consistent times with less potential heak soak of the manifold. not a exactly going to take a tenth off your PB if that makes sense.

ridered74 · June 22, 2020, 10:58:35 AM

Quote from: 4sfed on June 22, 2020, 09:51:56 AM
Honestly....dyno and track runs aside, I'd settle for information like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYguPadP2Uo

Since I'm now on the list as well, I'll be buying one of these infrared temp thingies, and reporting back. I'm not high on the list though....so it might not be anytime soon.

I've got one of those infrared temp guns and I'm 15 on the list. Next time I drive my car I'll get some before temps at ambient and after car is warmed up. The genesis temps seem low, I want to say mine was like 150 degrees after it was warmed up and stayed pretty hot for a long time.

4sfed · June 22, 2020, 11:12:53 AM

Quote from: ridered74 on June 22, 2020, 10:58:35 AM
I've got one of those infrared temp guns and I'm 15 on the list. Next time I drive my car I'll get some before temps at ambient and after car is warmed up. The genesis temps seem low, I want to say mine was like 150 degrees after it was warmed up and stayed pretty hot for a long time.

Cool! Honestly, this is the only data I'm interested in. And if it ends up being a difference of 20 or so degrees....Id' say that's a win!

ridered74 · June 23, 2020, 12:07:28 AM

Quote from: 4sfed on June 22, 2020, 11:12:53 AM
Quote from: ridered74 on June 22, 2020, 10:58:35 AM
I've got one of those infrared temp guns and I'm 15 on the list. Next time I drive my car I'll get some before temps at ambient and after car is warmed up. The genesis temps seem low, I want to say mine was like 150 degrees after it was warmed up and stayed pretty hot for a long time.

Cool! Honestly, this is the only data I'm interested in. And if it ends up being a difference of 20 or so degrees....Id' say that's a win!

Here's a pre spacer video of temps after a 45 minute drive. Outside temp was 76. Pretty wide range of temps depending on what part of intake you are aimed at. Saw everything from 121-170.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE1u2LrC7D0

FiveLeeter918 · June 26, 2020, 08:48:31 PM

Mine shipped today!

bpd1151 · June 26, 2020, 08:50:38 PM

Quote from: FiveLeeter918 on June 26, 2020, 08:48:31 PM
Mine shipped today!

As did mine.

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4sfed · June 26, 2020, 08:53:34 PM

Quote from: ridered74 on June 23, 2020, 12:07:28 AM
Quote from: 4sfed on June 22, 2020, 11:12:53 AM
Quote from: ridered74 on June 22, 2020, 10:58:35 AM
I've got one of those infrared temp guns and I'm 15 on the list. Next time I drive my car I'll get some before temps at ambient and after car is warmed up. The genesis temps seem low, I want to say mine was like 150 degrees after it was warmed up and stayed pretty hot for a long time.

Cool! Honestly, this is the only data I'm interested in. And if it ends up being a difference of 20 or so degrees....Id' say that's a win!

Here's a pre spacer video of temps after a 45 minute drive. Outside temp was 76. Pretty wide range of temps depending on what part of intake you are aimed at. Saw everything from 121-170.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE1u2LrC7D0

I would think measuring at the base of the runner, before and after, would be the best example. No?

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GhostlyGrenade · June 27, 2020, 09:18:56 AM

Honestly......it seems like IAT2 WOULD BE THE ONLY TEMP THAT MATTERED. Maybe I'm not thinking outside of my wallet. I don't care what temp my hood is if I'm changing hoods to help with high intake temps....

I would think the air going through the intake would be the best measurement. This is the temp that started you down the rabbit hole right?

Of course if you want you can take Temp readings of the neighbors car and see what happens.

FiveLeeter918 · June 29, 2020, 01:31:34 PM

Quote from: GhostlyGrenade on June 27, 2020, 09:18:56 AM
Honestly......it seems like IAT2 WOULD BE THE ONLY TEMP THAT MATTERED. Maybe I'm not thinking outside of my wallet. I don't care what temp my hood is if I'm changing hoods to help with high intake temps....

I would think the air going through the intake would be the best measurement. This is the temp that started you down the rabbit hole right?

Of course if you want you can take Temp readings of the neighbors car and see what happens.

You are quite correct.

Mine arrived today, hoping that my intake manifold follows shortly so that I can install and start testing.