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LMS V11 Holding Gear Too Long

Started by StealBlueSho, July 30, 2018, 05:37:50 PM

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StealBlueSho

Title says it all... anyone notice that the V11 tune holds the current gear too long before upshifting? Sometimes I have to feather the accelerator to finally upshift... particularly noticeable in 5th gear... holds it forever before shifting into 6th....

FWIW my car doesn't do this stock...


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bamsho

Yep it does at times.  Just use the paddle shifter.
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StealBlueSho

Quote from: bamsho on July 31, 2018, 01:30:55 PM
Yep it does at times.  Just use the paddle shifter.

Ok.  Not just me.... I do use the paddle shifters when this happens...

LMS needs to address this as from my understanding it's not a hard thing to address...and it's really annoying when it happens.

Along with fixing the 2nd - 3rd shift that is much harder at part throttle than any other gear..


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Vortech347

Not sure how long yours is holding but when AJP did my tune I actually asked him to have the 5-6 shift occur with less load.  This is nice for me because I don't get into 6th as early going up an onramp then constantly downshifting back to 5th once the slow ass minivan in front of me moves or I finally have a hole to get over.   It also cut down greatly on the dreaded 1400-1800 surge I'd get.  Switching to Chevron fuel cured 95% of it but having him make this change got rid of it 100% for me.  I noticed no difference in fuel economy either when it goes into 5th a little earlier instead of lugging with boost in 6th up a large hill.

Matt H.
2013 SHO Performance Pack, Daily, AJPTurbo tuned
2003 SVT Cobra 497rwhp/491rwtq, Self tuned, Cruiser
1990 Mustang GT 570rwhp/530twtq, Self tuned, Open Track
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StealBlueSho

Quote from: Vortech347 on July 31, 2018, 05:14:54 PM
Not sure how long yours is holding but when AJP did my tune I actually asked him to have the 5-6 shift occur with less load.  This is nice for me because I don't get into 6th as early going up an onramp then constantly downshifting back to 5th once the slow ass minivan in front of me moves or I finally have a hole to get over.   It also cut down greatly on the dreaded 1400-1800 surge I'd get.  Switching to Chevron fuel cured 95% of it but having him make this change got rid of it 100% for me.  I noticed no difference in fuel economy either when it goes into 5th a little earlier instead of lugging with boost in 6th up a large hill.

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Bronco2fan

Is this happening when you're in true sport mode or just with the shifter in sport? I haven't noticed in mine at all. She just takes off, with a little lag to her. But I really need to play with her more in true sport too.
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StealBlueSho

Quote from: Bronco2fan on August 04, 2018, 02:06:58 PM
Is this happening when you're in true sport mode or just with the shifter in sport? I haven't noticed in mine at all. She just takes off, with a little lag to her. But I really need to play with her more in true sport too.

Standard driving mode. It's holding the gears too long before upshifting.


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Bronco2fan

I hardly ever use Drive. Almost always sport or true sport mode and she shifts pretty well for me. Have you tried the relearn procedure for the tranny? Just a thought. I know I saw it in a thread before.

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StealBlueSho

Quote from: Bronco2fan on August 05, 2018, 03:30:00 PM
I hardly ever use Drive. Almost always sport or true sport mode and she shifts pretty well for me. Have you tried the relearn procedure for the tranny? Just a thought. I know I saw it in a thread before.

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I can't stand sport mode on this car... 95% of the time there is rarely any reason to hold gears past 4K rpms...

I digress... I have cleared the learned values and it still does it... it will eventually upshift... just takes its sweet time.

Maybe I'm being picky... but when I'm on the highway and I have to manually put the gear into 6th on an automatic trans... irritating...

I wish the SHO came in a standard with adjustable seat bolsters... I love my SHO... but damn did Ford leave a lot of unique SHO features on the table...end of rant...

I did email LMS...they responded about the harsh the 3rd gear shift... but not the holding gears...


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ZSHO

#9
No issues with mine whatsoever! Ohh Don't have the V11-Tune though!  Z   :P


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

StealBlueSho

Quote from: ZSHO on August 05, 2018, 03:53:47 PM
No issues with mine whatsoever! UH-oh Don't have the V11-Tune though!  Z   :D

.... funny man....


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Bronco2fan

So I'm sure you made sure the tranny is topped off. I remember reading LMS said something about adding more then it needs if it's acting up after the tune is installed.

Different note, I added no shudder to mine when it wasn't acting right and it helped a bunch.

Plus I don't know if these tranny programs are related. But I read on my Jeep forum that the Cherokee and Ford used the same programmer for some auto tranny applications. And the Cherokee Trailhawk will ( with 6 speed auto or could be 8) never even shift past 6 unless you make it.

But i hope you get her sorted to your satisfaction.

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ZSHO

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Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 05, 2018, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 05, 2018, 03:53:47 PM
No issues with mine whatsoever! UH-oh Don't have the V11-Tune though!  Z   :D

.... funny man....


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That's quite upsetting to say the least! If It does it with other Tunes,hopefully they can make some adjustments to the Base Cal!  Z


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