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AJPTurbo Meth Tune.

Started by StealBlueSho, June 02, 2017, 04:35:32 PM

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StealBlueSho

Datalog if anyone is interested... this is still a work in progress.. but for time verification purposes... enjoy...

lamrith

Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 03, 2017, 04:17:48 PM
2200psi at the rail with 240kpa spikes...

Meth is fuel... so it helps...

Brad is dialing in the fuel trims...

It's a work in progress.. but the first tune he sent already took 3 tenths of a second off my 0-60 times without brake boosting...

4.3 0-60 without launching the car...

I am going to need to upgrade suspension at this point to get better traction... either coil overs or PP shocks/struts with HKS springs...
So you were 4.6ish for 0-60 before adding Meth?

Are you using AJP's WG mod for the throttle control, or is the Meth letting him do some voodoo?
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

TopherSho

Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 03, 2017, 06:36:50 PM
Found a linked dyno jet within a 45 minute drive at Moore Performance in Fairfax... as soon as Brad gives me the clear, I am making an appointment...

I will bet average 550wtq...
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

AJP turbo

Quote from: lamrith on June 04, 2017, 01:00:22 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 03, 2017, 04:17:48 PM
2200psi at the rail with 240kpa spikes...

Meth is fuel... so it helps...

Brad is dialing in the fuel trims...

It's a work in progress.. but the first tune he sent already took 3 tenths of a second off my 0-60 times without brake boosting...

4.3 0-60 without launching the car...

I am going to need to upgrade suspension at this point to get better traction... either coil overs or PP shocks/struts with HKS springs...
So you were 4.6ish for 0-60 before adding Meth?

Are you using AJP's WG mod for the throttle control, or is the Meth letting him do some voodoo?

He used to use the wastegate mod but had to part with it...The Meth is providing the extra fuel so boost spikes do not deplete the rail pressure so throttle control really not needed
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
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Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

StealBlueSho

#19
Quote from: lamrith on June 04, 2017, 01:00:22 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 03, 2017, 04:17:48 PM
2200psi at the rail with 240kpa spikes...

Meth is fuel... so it helps...

Brad is dialing in the fuel trims...

It's a work in progress.. but the first tune he sent already took 3 tenths of a second off my 0-60 times without brake boosting...

4.3 0-60 without launching the car...

I am going to need to upgrade suspension at this point to get better traction... either coil overs or PP shocks/struts with HKS springs...
So you were 4.6ish for 0-60 before adding Meth?

Are you using AJP's WG mod for the throttle control, or is the Meth letting him do some voodoo?

These are on the street with street tires..

With Brads E20 tune BEFORE meth, without launching, I was at about 4.5.. with launching I was 4.1 all day long...

With the last meth rev, without launching, I am at 4.2.. I have not brake boosted a launch yet... traction is a real issue with amount of torque I suspect is getting put down the wheels... that 4.2 was spinning front and some rear tire slippage I suspect..

I might need to see if Brad can find away to control the load for launching...lol...

No, I am not using the wastegate mod as Brad has mentioned... long story behind that... thought I was selling the car to a buddy...

Meth is doing fine supplementing the fuel so spikes are not affecting the rail pressure...

0-90 is about 7.8 seconds... which is quick... once I get off the line it pulls like a freight train....

Honestly.. I am concerned about how much power is being pushed through the transmission/PTU... so I am going to be keeping the launches for when it means something... like race day...

I also suspect I am being limited by my suspension.. the rear is dipping pretty hard which isn't helping my traction up front. 35psi in the tires all the way around... so no adjustments made for and actual dig...

As always, Brad is fantastic to work with.

lamrith

#20
Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 04, 2017, 06:33:15 AM


These are on the street with street tires..

With Brads E20 tune BEFORE meth, without launching, I was at about 4.5.. with launching I was 4.1 all day long...

With the last meth rev, without launching, I am at 4.2.. I have not brake boosted a launch yet... traction is a real issue with amount of torque I suspect is getting put down the wheels... that 4.2 was spinning front and some rear tire slippage I suspect..

I might need to see if Brad can find away to control the load for launching...lol...

No, I am not using the wastegate mod as Brad has mentioned... long story behind that... thought I was selling the car to a buddy...

Meth is doing fine supplementing the fuel so spikes are not affecting the rail pressure...

0-90 is about 7.8 seconds... which is quick... once I get off the line it pulls like a freight train....

Honestly.. I am concerned about how much power is being pushed through the transmission/PTU... so I am going to be keeping the launches for when it means something... like race day...

I also suspect I am being limited by my suspension.. the rear is dipping pretty hard which isn't helping my traction up front. 35psi in the tires all the way around... so no adjustments made for and actual dig...

As always, Brad is fantastic to work with.
AWESOME!  I did a 0-60 test with livewire a few weeks back and got 4.56 not launching.

Now I am really looking forward to getting my Meth kit installed and tuned! Thanks SBS and AJP! 
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

yo tony

I messaged him about a meth tune for mine but he never messaged me back. I'd be very interested in working with him. Let us know how it goes
3 bar tune. Unleashed and BCB. Air raid intake. Snow stage 1 water meth. 3 inch non catted down pipes
Unleashed 12.53 @ 110
BCB 12.54 @ 110
Currently working on a tune with Brad and loving where it's going. Times to come

StealBlueSho

Depending on the dyno I might have to ask for a track tune and a street tune.... lol

lamrith

How is the tune progressing?
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

StealBlueSho

Quote from: lamrith on June 07, 2017, 12:03:37 AM
How is the tune progressing?

Extremely well, got some more testing to do. I am out of pocket all week... so no updates until Friday...

Again.. I cannot speak highly enough of Brad...prompt, explains what he is doing, and thorough... same as any other tune I have worked with him on.. 93 octane tune, custom wastegate tune, e20 tune, and now meth tuned..... I'm not a nut hugger but I respect honesty when I find it.

Colorado-SHOBro

Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 07, 2017, 12:12:39 AM
Quote from: lamrith on June 07, 2017, 12:03:37 AM
How is the tune progressing?

Extremely well, got some more testing to do. I am out of pocket all week... so no updates until Friday...

Again.. I cannot speak highly enough of Brad...prompt, explains what he is doing, and thorough... same as any other tune I have worked with him on.. 93 octane tune, custom wastegate tune, e20 tune, and now meth tuned..... I'm not a nut hugger but I respect honesty when I find it.
it's ok sbs . . nut-hugging is justified in this circumstance!


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11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

StealBlueSho

Hitting a couple bumps in the road here... advance track is being stubborn.... with a non-pp I can't dumb it down enough to get the power to the wheels without it rearing its ugly head.... first gear and second gear...

Brad is working up something to help... otherwise we might need a different approach...

And I am going to need another 5 gallon drum of Alky...

FoMoCoSHO

#27
Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 09, 2017, 08:26:06 PM
Hitting a couple bumps in the road here... advance track is being stubborn.... with a non-pp I can't dumb it down enough to get the power to the wheels without it rearing its ugly head.... first gear and second gear...

Brad is working up something to help... otherwise we might need a different approach...

And I am going to need another 5 gallon drum of Alky...
Lol, I feel your pain, my current tune makes Sport Mode very unhappy now, I have to go to full off when I log.

I appreciate you and Brad getting all of these things worked out before he starts tuning the Lincoln... ;)

lamrith

Quote from: StealBlueSho on June 09, 2017, 08:26:06 PM
Hitting a couple bumps in the road here... advance track is being stubborn.... with a non-pp I can't dumb it down enough to get the power to the wheels without it rearing its ugly head.... first gear and second gear...

Brad is working up something to help... otherwise we might need a different approach...

And I am going to need another 5 gallon drum of Alky...
Ur killin me here.
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

StealBlueSho

Curious though... as I know there are non-pp SHOs in the 11's... how they are getting around the traction control issue... even with it dumbed down...

I am wondering if a stiffer suspension setup would keep the car more level thus keeping the weight over the front tires....

By the time I buy new shocks and lowering springs, it would be the same price as coilovers....

Not sure which one is better...