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Inner tie rod socket size?

Started by pmezo33, February 04, 2017, 09:02:39 PM

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pmezo33

Anyone know the correct socket size to remove the inner tie rod on a 2010 mks?  The set i rented from advanced auto came with three socket sizes and, of course, none of them fit.  All are too small. 

Anyone know?

SHOdded

The helpful manual only states "appropriate size".  Do you have a new part for reference?
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pmezo33

Quote from: SHOdded on February 05, 2017, 12:32:15 AM
The helpful manual only states "appropriate size".  Do you have a new part for reference?

Trust me.. already checked it over.  So frustrating because I already removed everything including the outer tie rod end,  so my alignment is out of whack, just to find out I can't even remove the inner one because I don't have the correct socket. My fault for not checking first, but that's what I get for trusting a universal kit.

Not sure about the part number that's currently on the car, but I'd assume it's the same as the oem part I'm putting on to replace it.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4021980&cc=1444584&jnid=384&jpid=6

pmezo33

Anyone?  No one's had to do this before?

ZSHO

#4
What sizes did you try for the jam-nut? There's an 8 piece kit that Harbor freight sells for 39.99.and maybe worth a try.IDK. Z
http://www.harborfreight.com/inner-tie-rod-removal-set-69619.html

http://manuals.harborfreight.com/manuals/69000-69999/69619.pdf


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pmezo33

Tie rod sizes that came with this kit were 1-5/16", 1-3/16" and 1-7/16".

I saw that kit from harbor freight, but wanted to make sure it worked before i went out and bought it.  The closest HF is like 30 minutes from here.  And i thought I read somewhere that this kit didn't have the correct size for their Lincoln too when i was searching around last night.  It wasn't on here though.

ZSHO

#6
Quote from: pmezo33 on February 05, 2017, 10:19:59 AM
Tie rod sizes that came with this kit were 1-5/16", 1-3/16" and 1-7/16".

I saw that kit from harbor freight, but wanted to make sure it worked before i went out and bought it.  The closest HF is like 30 minutes from here.  And i thought I read somewhere that this kit didn't have the correct size for their Lincoln too when i was searching around last night.  It wasn't on here though.
Did try Autozone? It could me a 18mm!!.just trying to help you out & best of luck. Z


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pmezo33

Quote from: ZSHO on February 05, 2017, 10:25:21 AM
Quote from: pmezo33 on February 05, 2017, 10:19:59 AM
Tie rod sizes that came with this kit were 1-5/16", 1-3/16" and 1-7/16".

I saw that kit from harbor freight, but wanted to make sure it worked before i went out and bought it.  The closest HF is like 30 minutes from here.  And i thought I read somewhere that this kit didn't have the correct size for their Lincoln too when i was searching around last night.  It wasn't on here though.
Did try Autozone? It could me a 18mm!!.  Z

I did.  Their set only has two pieces and both sizes came with the set you get from autozone.

ZSHO

#8
Dam! It sux!! If you turn rack all the way out to side that's coming off can you grab it with large adjustable.? Or large pliers ? Pipe wrench? 
It
is recommend to hold the rack so when loosening you don't force it against other gear inside. LMK thanks .Z


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pmezo33

I was thinking about just using a big pipe wrench.  I really prefer not to because of the steering rack and possibly putting extra stress on it when removing.  Also wanted to torque it down to the correct spec when putting the new piece in.  I guess it's just kind of my only option at this point.

ZSHO

#10
Quote from: pmezo33 on February 05, 2017, 11:52:27 AM
I was thinking about just using a big pipe wrench.  I really prefer not to because of the steering rack and possibly putting extra stress on it when removing.  Also wanted to torque it down to the correct spec when putting the new piece in.  I guess it's just kind of my only option at this point.
Exactly that's why I recommended  the above mentioned procedure knowing that you're options are very limited at the moment.
Also when removing an inner tie rod you need to hold the rack so it does not bind when removing and tightening and outer tire rod.
Best of luck and keep us updated on any progress. Z


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ZSHO

Here is a pic of mine and would say its probably the same size.  Z


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pmezo33

Quote from: ZSHO on February 06, 2017, 11:54:24 AM
Here is a pic of mine and would say its probably the same size.  Z


Inner tie rod is under that plastic boot on left side of that picture.  I had it all apart and ready to be removed, but had nothing to remove the thing with. 

That picture looks just like my setup and i'm sure it's the same size.  Problem is, no clue what size socket to put on it. 

pmezo33

Ok 99% sure just figured it out.  It's the 1-1/2 tie rod socket.  At least the new part is.   Got to assume the current part that's on the car is too since i'm replacing with OEM.

That size socket wasn't included in the set i rented from advanced auto and it's not included in the set from harbor freight either.  Looks like Lisle sells a master tie rod tool set that included the 1-1/2 socket size.  I'll probably just pick that up.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/lil-46800

ZSHO

#14
I was able to finally measure it for ya.
It measure's approximately 38.5mm.  Z
I hope it helps any of our prestige members out. :)


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