Other than having to get a new tune for the 2016, that sounds like a good plan. Keep in mind, depending on the tuner you go with, you may have to pay unlock/re licensing fees to switch the device to another car.

As for the 400 awhp mark, I think that is easily achievable with the mods you have planned.

I am running stock plugs, 3 bar, 170 stat, SW catless downpipes, stock catback with resonator replaced with X-pipe, and mufflers replaced with summit race mufflers. I also have an Airaid CAI, AJPTurbo Tune, and run E20 gas (so I get a bit more spark). I also have the wastegate boost regulator mod. My car put down 369.4/451.4 on the rollers this past tuesday, with the wastegate on my intake wide open, so it probably had atleast another 10-15 hp in it.

Add ATP's to that and you should easily hit 400 awhp.

For comparison, I have attached a Dynograph showing the comparison between my car, with the mods listed but no tune enhancements, my car tuned, and AJPTurbos car (stock tune with downpipes, and CAI, stock stat, stock plugs, 2 bar MAP; as well as a power pull on his car with the same mods as his stock pull, but tuned - he got past 400awhp without the ATPs)

Hope this helps!

Note: His pulls are labeled. For my pulls, run002 and 003 are power pulls and 004 was my stock pull. He ran 93 octane for his pulls, with higher boost than I am tuned for, and slightly lower spark. I ran E20 with lower boost, and higher spark. Our stock pulls are very similar. Also, I used SAE correction so it is apples to apples and removes temperature, humidity, and ambient pressure differences.

Thanks for that info dd!  More information, especially fact based data, is always helpful!

I am debating doing tune, downpipes, t-stat, plugs, and the LME HPFP first to see where that gets me.   The HPFP may push things over the edge.

I have been incredibly impressed with AJPTurbo!  He has been extremely responsive.

I did just find out that LME is now offering a FlexFuel performance tune, which is interesting for sure.  Being able to run E85 when I want it or 93 or any mix therein is intriguing.  I should probably check with AJP to see if that is something he can whip up...  His customer service has so far been second to none!

The beauty of all of the above is that I can see where things land with the HPFP, and then save the turbos for the last step if I want them.

Don

Am I mistaken or is the HPFP still in development?

As for the flex fuel, there are PIDs (though not on the sho) that can calculate alcohol percentage, AJPTurbo and I looked into doing it with the current way SCT does it. Most ford vehicles that are non ecoboost are flex fuel and use logic based on the O2 sensors to determine how much ethanol/alcohol is in the fuel.

I am excited to see if LME implements that same type of logic (hopefully pushing SCT to do the same) or if they add another sensor. If they add another sensor, then I am betting it can be adapted to be an analog input to an SCT Device to measure alcohol percentage, not sure how it would be incorporated into the tune though, so I bet they will be porting over fords basic flex fuel logic.

Either way, definitely nice to have, but they will be doing a lot of testing to get it right, different E contents, and different weather/conditions can cause some major differences in fueling. E85 overall needs 20% more fuel at steady state and 30% more at WOT by my research, so there will be variences needed.

I would hold off on the HPFP and the ATPs till the last step, because both are up there in the price range. You should be able to run ATPs, at lower boost than stock turbos, and get the same power as a maxed out stock turbo, leading to better fueling. I personally will be going for the ATP upgrade before going to a HPFP.

My understanding on the HPFP is that they are installing it themselves right now and will be selling as a customer install part in the next couple months.

I should be getting more information on their FlexFuel setup Monday.  He told me they have done multiple vehicles in house with HPFP and FlexFuel with solid results.

Don

I haven't messed with E blends (yet?), but FWIW, I have nothing but good things to say about my experience working with AJP Turbo to tune my Explorer. Great stuff!

EDIT: P.S. Welcome aboard!

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I haven't messed with E blends, but FWIW, I have nothing but good things to say about my experience working with AJP Turbo to tune my Explorer. Great stuff!


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E blends are amazing turn em up kills knock


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OK so a bit of an update.

I have a SCT Livewire, 170 Thermostat, plugs, k&n filter, and 3 bar MAP all here.

I am looking to order downpipes, but I am now leaning more toward catless downpipes while leaving the remainder of the stock exhaust in place (including resonator and 3rd cat).

I know PPE catted downpipes keep the emissions system happy, but do the benefits of the catless pipes outweigh that?  As far as preferences go, I like the sound you get from the turbos and the slightly increased exhaust note with the catless systems I have listened to.  Beyond preferences, do catless pipes allow the turbos to spool faster at lower RPM?  Does it keep them cooler?  I know we are talking about 5HP overall, so I am not chasing power here.  I just like the exhaust note of catless and seeing if there are other ancillary benefits.

I live in Michigan so emissions requirements aren't a concern and as far as I know there is no plan to change that any time soon.

Getting closer to putting this all together!

Thanks!

Don

I decided on catless downpipes from Stainless Works.  They should be here in 3-4 weeks.  For now I have the 170 thermostat, K&N air filter, Motorcraft SP-534 Spark Plugs, and 3 bar map sensor installed.  I am on my second revision of my 89 octane tune with Brad and things are going well.

Is there a more appropriate sub forum for builds or members rides?  Or is this the most appropriate place to document my progress with the vehicle?

Thanks!

Don

You can post your build here
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,98.0.html