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Tuning with minimal upgrades

Started by lsfox86, January 09, 2017, 03:01:26 PM

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f8tlSHO

Stock trim when you take it in.. I even have my unleashed sticker on a black license plate for the front, so I don't have to scrape stickers off the window.. just pop it off


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

derfdog15

Quote from: f8tlSHO on January 10, 2017, 08:57:59 AM
Stock trim when you take it in.. I even have my unleashed sticker on a black license plate for the front, so I don't have to scrape stickers off the window.. just pop it off


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Unleashed sticker with an AJPTurbo Tune? BLASPHEMY!
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car

f8tlSHO

Quote from: derfdog15 on January 10, 2017, 09:15:14 AM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on January 10, 2017, 08:57:59 AM
Stock trim when you take it in.. I even have my unleashed sticker on a black license plate for the front, so I don't have to scrape stickers off the window.. just pop it off


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Unleashed sticker with an AJPTurbo Tune? BLASPHEMY!
I would gladly put some ajp tuning stickers on the car, anybody have any design ideas? Some stickers, t shirts, ya know the works.. gotta love that tune!!


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

derfdog15

Quote from: f8tlSHO on January 10, 2017, 09:21:44 AM
I would gladly put some ajp tuning stickers on the car, anybody have any design ideas? Some stickers, t shirts, ya know the works.. gotta love that tune!!


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Got it: "Performance Tuned by the Log Warlock" window banner.

Possibly a quarter window image of a warlock, holding a turbo instead of a staff/weapon
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car

AJP turbo

Quote from: derfdog15 on January 10, 2017, 12:04:03 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on January 10, 2017, 09:21:44 AM



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Possibly a quarter window image of a warlock, holding a turbo instead of a staff/weapon

That would be cool, all dark and medieval lol
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Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

f8tlSHO

Quote from: AJP turbo on January 10, 2017, 12:13:58 PM
Quote from: derfdog15 on January 10, 2017, 12:04:03 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on January 10, 2017, 09:21:44 AM



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Possibly a quarter window image of a warlock, holding a turbo instead of a staff/weapon

That would be cool, all dark and medieval lol
I am not an artist so this is not in my wheelhouse, someone here has to be artistic. But I think we need to represent ajp's work. Warlock holding a turbo interests me


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

Livernois Motorsports

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that we wish to be as upfront as possible about all aspects of the process. Our goal for tuning is the same as it has always been,
to offer safe, responsible and reliable tuning for daily driving aspects. We don't set out with intent to injure vehicles, if we did that
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lsfox86

Thank you all for the great info - this forum is awesome! Since I'm really looking for more of a plug and play tune, I decided to go with LMS.  I ordered the tune today and hope to have everything up and running by next week.  I decided not to do plugs or anything else at this time, so the only upgrade on the car will be the cat-back. 

At this point, what should I be doing?  I know that I need to pick 4 tunes (I'm thinking one tow tune and an 87, 91, and 93 performance maybe??) You guys have all gone through this process, so is there anything you wish you would have done immediately before tuning?  I don't need an oil change for another 3k, but is it worth taking the car to the dealer to have them run it over?  Are there any specific instructions I should give the folks at LMS? 

Cheers
2015 - LMS tune - 160 thermostat - Borla cat back - K&N drop in - HID headlights/fogs - K40 radar

ZSHO

#23
The perma-grin factor associated when first loading your tune is priceless and have been accustomed to their fine tuning and customer service since day one.
I would make sure to use a high quality full synthetic oil such a Redline, Amsoil with an Motorcraft fl- 500s filter.
I would also contact Anthony for any such inquiry/questions you may have at tuning@livernoismotorsports.com and best of luck to ya. Z  :)


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

KonaTheWhale

I would recommend a 91 octane tune for traveling to places without 93 then do your 3 other tunes as the hottest 93 on down. Even though your vehicle is pretty new there could still be a difference in plug gaps and replacing them with upgraded and perfectly gapped plugs will insure the biggest perma-grin like ZSHO mentioned. Also at some point I would do a 3 bar sensor as it is the easiest bang for buck
2011 Ford Taurus SHO non PP Kona blue, Livernois 93 octane 3 bar tune, PPE catless downpipes, muffler delete, 160* stat, K&N drop in filter, VTA mod, rear end lowered, 15% tint, EBC brake upgrade

lsfox86

#25
Will I be safe running the 91 tune on a daily basis without doing spark plugs, sensors, or thermostat?

I guess what I'm trying to understand is the following: by upgrading the plugs/thermostat/sensors, am I protecting my engine or am I gaining additional performance?
2015 - LMS tune - 160 thermostat - Borla cat back - K&N drop in - HID headlights/fogs - K40 radar

f8tlSHO

I think they come with good plugs, just gap them correctly and move on, no you aren't gonna hurt the motor without those other things. You will need a 3 bar map sensor if your tune is setup for 3 bar though


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

jbrown9999

Quote from: SHOdded on January 09, 2017, 06:17:50 PM
Many people have tuned their EBs pretty much right out of the box, with full warranty remaining, and have put tens of thousands of miles on them w/o incident.  The key?  Sticking with a reputable tuner like Unleashed or Livernois, because they generally tune on the conservative side (even though the tunes are awesome) keeping the customer's interests in mind.  There are upcoming tuners, but not with nearly the same track record.  As derf said, it is your comfort level that will make the decision.

Like a broken record, I will keep repeating:  putting on a tune puts your car in the Severe Service category.  Be prepared to get maintenance up to date prior to loading a tune, and then follow the rigorous SS schedule (at a minimum).

I got a 91 Octane Unleashed tune on my stock (only a K&N drop in filter) 2016 SHO, and the difference is VERY noticeable.  Definitely worth the investment!
2016 Ford SHO w/ PP w/ SCT X4 w/ Gearhead tune,
MDesign CAI, non-noise maker pipe
Gapped/colder plugs, Thermostat w/ Water Wetter
MSD COPS, aFe Silver Bullet intake spacer
UPR catch can, BOV to atmosphere mod

SHOdded

A tune will shorten the life of the plugs, somewhat, but that's about it.  Plugs aren't difficult to replace, and require minor mechanical ability to do so.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

derfdog15

Quote from: lsfox86 on January 10, 2017, 05:44:31 PM
Will I be safe running the 91 tune on a daily basis without doing spark plugs, sensors, or thermostat?

I guess what I'm trying to understand is the following: by upgrading the plugs/thermostat/sensors, am I protecting my engine or am I gaining additional performance?

More than safe, you just won't be able to run as high of boost. The MAP Sensor allows for higher boost, and thus higher torque/horsepower.

Plugs, I have yet to do, my car just put down well over stock power on the dyno, has been tuned for 7k or so, no issues.

Stat, I did more to make drag racing consistent, not needed unless you want a bit more constitancy. It can help with keeping knock retard down, but is not necessary.

Since you went LME, just make sure they know your mods and they will send proper tunes accordingly. Once you want more, you can start with small upgrades and go from there.

With regards to the mentioned mods, my order of recommendation would be 3Bar (~$45), stat ($~60), plugs (~$60)

For actual power gains, best bang for the buck mod wise seems to be tune, and then downpipes.
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car