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Replacing radiator and intercooler- suggestions?

Started by Colorado-SHOBro, November 05, 2016, 12:24:20 AM

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Colorado-SHOBro

Had a jack stand fail in the front of the car today. Good news is i wasn't under the car, Bad news is the raised jack still was and the radiator and intercooler came down on top of it bending/cracking them. FML. Just got done removing everything and confirmed both pieces will need replacing. I'll update later with some carnage pics.
Wondering if anyone has replaced either component or has any advice regarding this.
Of course i'd like to stay with OEM parts(or even upgrade although don't think any are available) if possible but i am on a budget. Here's what i've found so far:
Autoparts warehouse.Price is right- CSF intercooler and a no-name radiator. Don't have any experience with CSF or APW so any input is welcome
http://cart.autopartswarehouse.com/basket/

Rockauto-Spectra intercooler. I've always been skeptical about spectra, but for no particular reason.
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=5478399&cc=1446498&jsn=750

Both of these intercoolers differ from the Oem desing slightly where the Y piece going to the turbo hoses is one attached piece instead of being detatchable like FoMoCo's design. I could see this making install a little more difficult being tight on space and all.
Best price i can find on Ford intercooler:
https://www.amazon.com/FoMoCo-AA5Z-6K775-B-AA5Z-6K775-A-Turbo-Intercooler/dp/B0125RY5GU/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1478319022&sr=1-2&keywords=AA5Z-6K775-B

OEM radiator's are pricey so looking for alternatives . . . anyone know of a solid aftermarket brand?

Speak up if you've got any suggestion thanks!




11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

Colorado-SHOBro


good times! haha


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11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

SHOdded

That looks BAD!  Sorry to see that happen ...  Aftermarket parts from reputable suppliers are non-existent AFAIK, so I would stick with OEM.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!


SHOdded

What is the warranty?  Carquest is a decent brand.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Colorado-SHOBro

Quote from: SHOdded on November 05, 2016, 08:53:53 AM
What is the warranty?  Carquest is a decent brand.
This is in the notes
"Please note: Advance Auto Parts is proud to carry comparable exact-fit parts from multiple vendors, as such, the item you receive may be one of two quality brands. Both brands meet the same fitment requirements and are equal in their performance and specifications. "
I'm gonna go give it a look when the store opens and verify brand.
11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

Colorado-SHOBro

I was also thinking this may be a good time for a coolant type change if it's recommended . . . is there a preferred or superior coolant to the Ford green stuff that was in my car from the factory? I know Ford switched to the orange stuff but i'm not sure the reason or if that would be considered an upgrade?
What would i need to do to get ALL the coolant from the car to insure no mixing happened if i were to change fluids?
11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

AJP turbo

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Colorado-SHOBro

Quote from: AJP turbo on November 05, 2016, 11:40:49 AM
Oh no!...dammit man
yeah i've got he worst luck lately. got a speeding ticket and expired tags ticket on my old car(parked on a dead end street) on the same day tuesday. . . and now this. while it's not the desired circumstances i do love wrenching on my car and getting through all the layers. it makes me feel more connected to the car somehow. before last night the most i had done was take off the intake and top bumper shield. now this lol

my gf freaked out after coming to visit me in the garage a couple hours after i started and saw the car all torn apart. "how's it all go back together!?" hahaha


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11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

SHOdded

IDK if you can use Spec Orange in the cooling system.  You would definitely have to thoroughly flush out the old coolant first using distilled water then add in the new coolant.

I would use universal extended life coolant at that point as the replacement.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Colorado-SHOBro

Quote from: SHOdded on November 05, 2016, 01:58:25 PM
IDK if you can use Spec Orange in the cooling system.  You would definitely have to thoroughly flush out the old coolant first using distilled water then add in the new coolant.

I would use universal extended life coolant at that point as the replacement.
while switching it to a universal is tempting it really didn't lose that micah coolant. a gallon maybe so it's not really worth switching at the moment. i got an intercooler from a dealership and the carquest radiator so ready to put it back together around my work schedule the next couple days.i'm curious as to why ford used the green and orange specialty coolant or what necessitated that in the first place.
i'm really cursing the fact that there's no intercooler upgrades out there. this would be the perfect excuse for one!
the carquest radiator is definitely lighter than oem but core size is the same and it looks like a decent piece overall


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11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

SHOdded

Good luck with the install, hope it all goes smoothly!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Colorado-SHOBro

I wanted to update this thread to share my experience. This may seem like unnecessary info but i want it available for anyone who might end up shopping for a radiator in the future. I got the intercooler from a ford dealership so nothing to speak of there.
I first purchased this radiator from advanced auto #434082. Said to fit a 2011 SHO but it didn't. The intercooler and radiator clip together and drop into the car as one unit. The clip on the driver side of the radiator sat about 1.25" above the lower radiator inlet whereas the clip on the OEM radiator sits directly on the backside of the lower radiator intlet. I couldn't even get the intercooler to clip into this radiator period. So back to Advance it went. Also, after closer inspection this radiator didn't seem to be the sturdiest, much lighter than the OEM radiator and i could see right through it with a flash light aimed at it.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web/PartSearchCmd?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&pageId=partTypeList&suggestion=&actionSrc=Form&langId=-1&vehicleIdSearch=469557&vehicle_469557=2011+%3A+Ford+%3A+Taurus+Limited+%3A+3.5L+213CI+V6+FI+VIN%3A+W&vehicle_229179=2004+%3A+Pontiac+%3A+Grand+Prix+GTP+%3A+3.8L+231CI+V6+FI+Supercharged+VIN%3A+4&vehicle_629155=2013+%3A+Ford+%3A+Taurus+SHO+%3A+3.5L+3496CC+V6+FI+Turbo+VIN%3A+T&vehicle_802597=2013+%3A+Ford+%3A+Police+Interceptor+Sedan+%3A+3.5L+3496CC+V6+FI+Turbo+VIN%3A+T&vehicle_469566=2011+%3A+Ford+%3A+Taurus+SHO+%3A+3.5L+213CI+V6+FI+Turbo+VIN%3A+T&vehicle_398375=2008+%3A+Pontiac+%3A+Grand+Prix+%3A+3.8L+231CI+V6+FI+VIN%3A+2&vehicle_359534=2006+%3A+Pontiac+%3A+Grand+Prix+GT+%3A+3.8L+231CI+V6+FI+Supercharged+VIN%3A+4&vehicle_360965=2006+%3A+Chevrolet+%3A+Corvette+Z06+%3A+7.0L+427CI+V8+FI+VIN%3A+E&searchTerm=radiator&searchedFrom=header
after way too much searching around pics on the web from different online vendors and auto parts store i found one radiator part # that consistently showed the clip to be in the correct locatioin.
Part#13307 which napa had in stock
https://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/search?q=N%3D5002600%2B200260290%2B10201100%2B402608200%2B599999900%2B50300300%2B50349900%26Nty%3D1%26Ntt%3Dradiator%26Ntk%3DKeyword&text=radiator&catId=&catIndex=&sort=DFLT&pageSize=12&isApplication=true&isProduct=false&isInterchange=false
Picked it up and put it next to the stock radiator. They looked damn near identical and weighed the same judging by my arm scale. It is a Spectra radiator-which turns out Spectra has a pretty good reputation for radiators and cooling parts-rumored to still be manufactured in Canada-who knows. Anyhow both components are now replaced and the car is running like a top and seems to even stay a bit cooler than before FWIW.
So short version is . . . if you need a radiator and don't want to shell out the $300+ for a motorcraft original unit . . find part #13307 and you should be pleased!
11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

ZSHO

#13
Definitely helpful info there 8nutz8.....always see Napa auto making Delivery's by Ford service.  Z :thumb:


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

ZSHO



2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|