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Started by SHOurpp, September 30, 2016, 05:29:53 PM

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SHOurpp

September 30, 2016, 05:29:53 PM
for about a min the car is ticking very noisy at every start up
goes away once warmed up about 1/2 mile down the read
car is 2016 sho 1200 miles all stock
anybody experience this?
should i go to dealer?
duel 3 inch cat less down pipes
sct x4- as a scanner/logger only
3 bar map
hp tuners
both bovs vta

ZSHO

#1
September 30, 2016, 05:51:28 PM Last Edit: September 30, 2016, 05:59:46 PM by ZSHO
I would not hesitate and simply just make an appt asap especially a brand new vehicle,i'm guessing its still on the original oil correct? Did you check the oil level? best of luck and keep us updated.  Z


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SHOurpp

#2
September 30, 2016, 06:02:23 PM
thanks going in Monday!
all original oil too never touched
ill recheck oil tonight
duel 3 inch cat less down pipes
sct x4- as a scanner/logger only
3 bar map
hp tuners
both bovs vta

SHOdded

#3
October 01, 2016, 02:40:15 AM
A startup rattle is common with non-OEM oil filters (2-3 seconds), a minute or longer - not at all.  Could just be low oil, or could be bad phaser(s).  Had a 2016 MKX that had issues pretty much right off the bat with timing components, so wouldn't be surprised.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

SHOurpp

#4
October 01, 2016, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on October 01, 2016, 02:40:15 AM
A startup rattle is common with non-OEM oil filters (2-3 seconds), a minute or longer - not at all.  Could just be low oil, or could be bad phaser(s).  Had a 2016 MKX that had issues pretty much right off the bat with timing components, so wouldn't be surprised.
its all stock under 2000 miles
oil level is right on the mark
everything is motercraft from the factory
ill let you know -my dealer service is the bomb(had 3 cars with them-my dad at least 10-been with them for a long time)
duel 3 inch cat less down pipes
sct x4- as a scanner/logger only
3 bar map
hp tuners
both bovs vta

SHOdded

#5
October 01, 2016, 04:12:05 PM
Good luck!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

SHOurpp

#6
October 11, 2016, 06:17:45 PM
so officially...
it was a defective drain back  valve in the oil filter causing the noise by not supplying enough initial startup pressure to the timing cover area.
warranty changed the oil and filter
the new filter is an fl 500 s(pretty sure that was the original too)
if you hear the noise? change your oil or at least your filter- maybe switch brands as well

they also monitored vct pids and did a relative compression /power balance test cancelling the cylinders and both tested OK
duel 3 inch cat less down pipes
sct x4- as a scanner/logger only
3 bar map
hp tuners
both bovs vta

SHOdded

#7
October 11, 2016, 07:38:02 PM
Well at least the vitals were good!  How did they find the defective ADBV I wonder, is there an easy way to tell or trial & error ...?  Good luck, may this be the last issue for a long while.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

SHOurpp

#8
October 12, 2016, 08:20:05 PM
start it up listen to the heads for 1 min goes away ,8 hrs later try again x 1 week
called ford direct

they said something along the lines of timing cover/gears have sensor that needs xxx oil pressure to correctly function
do the tests listed above and change oil see what happens
there was still a small 20 sec light tick after but within what was " normal"

ill update if any new developments
duel 3 inch cat less down pipes
sct x4- as a scanner/logger only
3 bar map
hp tuners
both bovs vta

glock-coma

#9
October 12, 2016, 11:00:19 PM
sometimes the direct injection high pressure fuel pump "tick" is mistaken as a valve train tick.
the DI pump tick is normal. its mounted on the front valve cover
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

SHOurpp

#10
October 14, 2016, 01:07:51 PM
could be
it sounds like its coming from between the heads  area on the passenger side, with the cover off
duel 3 inch cat less down pipes
sct x4- as a scanner/logger only
3 bar map
hp tuners
both bovs vta

glock-coma

#11
October 14, 2016, 01:47:13 PM
That's probably the fuel injectors then.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)
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