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Swirls in paint..

Started by StealBlueSho, September 29, 2016, 09:20:00 AM

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StealBlueSho

Anyone know a good way to get swirls out of the clear coat? Previous owner some how managed to swirl the whole car, it's been bugging me since I purchased it a couple years ago...

Only thing I can think of is to have it professionally waxed with a high speed buffer?

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AJP turbo

Wax may only mask them temporarily. You need paint correction....It needs buffed/polished...I got a nice Porter cable buffer and wheels and polishes from auto geek.net

It sucks but only 1 time through a car wash that is NOT touchless will swirl up a car...People like them because they clean better but at a cost...I only hand wash...I'd rather my car be dirty for a while than run it through a car wash if its too cold or nasty out to wash it myself.
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pmezo33

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Buy a Porter Cable 7424xp.  And I like Meguiars ultimate compound followed by Meguiars ultimate polish.  Make sure to apply a good carnuba wax when done.  Chemical guys butter wet wax is a very good product.  I'd also recommend claying the car before compounding.  It will look like a brand new car when you're done.

If you want to avoid swirls in the future, invest in a decent pressure washer and a foam cannon.  Use only high quality soap.

J-Will

Search Adams Polishes on YouTube. He has step by step instructions

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slurppie

The PC 7424 (i use the 7336) works well but i also added the Griots 6" ROB to my arsenal  which does a better job IMO. This along with a good pad (Lake County CCS) and your product of choice: Adams, Menzerna (which i use) can provide excellant results.

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AnotherGreenFusion

I just recently did zaino on mine, it took forever but the claybar removed pretty much every swirl and marring of the clearcoat.
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pmezo33

Quote from: AnotherGreenFusion on September 29, 2016, 12:31:06 PM
I just recently did zaino on mine, it took forever but the claybar removed pretty much every swirl and marring of the clearcoat.

Clay bars really do work magic.  And a lot of people don't even know they exist unless they're into detailing.  Amazing what those things can do.

Vortech347

Adams is this shiznit!

This is my 03' Cobra.  I use their paint correction and other various products.  The Porter Cable kit from them is a great way to get started.

I'm about to do this to my SHO this weekend.  Get it sealed up for the winter.
Matt H.
2013 SHO Performance Pack, Daily, AJPTurbo tuned
2003 SVT Cobra 497rwhp/491rwtq, Self tuned, Cruiser
1990 Mustang GT 570rwhp/530twtq, Self tuned, Open Track
2017 F150 XLT 5.0

66 Galaxie

Quote from: slurppie on September 29, 2016, 12:12:22 PM
The PC 7424 (i use the 7336) works well but i also added the Griots 6" ROB to my arsenal  which does a better job IMO. This along with a good pad (Lake County CCS) and your product of choice: Adams, Menzerna (which i use) can provide excellant results.

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How aggressive of a pad do you use with the compound and polish?
'14 Flex Tuxedo Black ecoboost

Vortech347

Quote from: 66 Galaxie on September 29, 2016, 05:50:13 PM
Quote from: slurppie on September 29, 2016, 12:12:22 PM
The PC 7424 (i use the 7336) works well but i also added the Griots 6" ROB to my arsenal  which does a better job IMO. This along with a good pad (Lake County CCS) and your product of choice: Adams, Menzerna (which i use) can provide excellant results.

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How aggressive of a pad do you use with the compound and polish?

Just depends.  Its always best to buy a matched setup.  Take the guess work out.
Matt H.
2013 SHO Performance Pack, Daily, AJPTurbo tuned
2003 SVT Cobra 497rwhp/491rwtq, Self tuned, Cruiser
1990 Mustang GT 570rwhp/530twtq, Self tuned, Open Track
2017 F150 XLT 5.0

slurppie

Quote from: 66 Galaxie on September 29, 2016, 05:50:13 PM
Quote from: slurppie on September 29, 2016, 12:12:22 PM
The PC 7424 (i use the 7336) works well but i also added the Griots 6" ROB to my arsenal  which does a better job IMO. This along with a good pad (Lake County CCS) and your product of choice: Adams, Menzerna (which i use) can provide excellant results.

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How aggressive of a pad do you use with the compound and polish?
I have several pads varying in aggressiveness (some paints/clears are harder than others and it also depends on what i'm trying to remove). I like Lake's pink pad (light cutting) with a pass of Menzerna FG400 followed by a blue pad using Menzerna SF4000. For heavy swirls like those on my wife's car when the dealer prepped it with a wool pad, i used Menzerna's SI1500 and started with the pink and finally moving to a more aggressive orange pad.

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Ceramic muffler bearings

pmezo33

Quote from: 66 Galaxie on September 29, 2016, 05:50:13 PM
Quote from: slurppie on September 29, 2016, 12:12:22 PM
The PC 7424 (i use the 7336) works well but i also added the Griots 6" ROB to my arsenal  which does a better job IMO. This along with a good pad (Lake County CCS) and your product of choice: Adams, Menzerna (which i use) can provide excellant results.

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How aggressive of a pad do you use with the compound and polish?

It really depends on how bad the paint is.  To remove normal swirls, scratches, and oxidation, I use:

This medium-heavy cutting pad for compounds: http://www.chemicalguys.com/Hex_Logic_Medium_Heavy_Cutting_Pad_6_5_Inch_p/bufx_102hex6.htm

This light-medium pad for polishing: http://www.chemicalguys.com/Hex_Logic_Light_Medium_Polishing_Pad_6_5_Inch_p/bufx_104hex6.htm

StealBlueSho

Quote from: AnotherGreenFusion on September 29, 2016, 12:31:06 PM
I just recently did zaino on mine, it took forever but the claybar removed pretty much every swirl and marring of the clearcoat.
Really? I didn't think a clay bar would remove swirls?

Thanks everyone for the suggestions... I have been focusing on the go fast portion...time to correct some of the appearance issues... (Having small children really put a hurting on cars...never thought I would have to tell someone that the car is not a hockey net...)

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AnotherGreenFusion

Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 29, 2016, 11:23:21 PM
Quote from: AnotherGreenFusion on September 29, 2016, 12:31:06 PM
I just recently did zaino on mine, it took forever but the claybar removed pretty much every swirl and marring of the clearcoat.
Really? I didn't think a clay bar would remove swirls?

Thanks everyone for the suggestions... I have been focusing on the go fast portion...time to correct some of the appearance issues... (Having small children really put a hurting on cars...never thought I would have to tell someone that the car is not a hockey net...)

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Claybar can clean up minor defects in the clearcoat as well as stuck on debris and dirt it just takes FOREVER.


I was hitting the terrible brush washes from December last year till about May/June this year. I stopped when I saw the swirls and marks the wash was leaving. Got a pressure washer and a full Zaino kit. Stripped the wax with dishwashing liquid (Dawn) and spent about 6 hours with the claybar. After that I used a polish, a base wax then 3 coats of finish wax to great results. What the claybar does not get the polish and finish waxes will either get or fill.


'15 Fusion SE 2.0 AWD
CP-E Cold Side, Hot Side, αIntake, QKspl DP & RMM | Boomba Can | Cordova TB | Synapse Gen III BOV | Levels FMIC | 160* T-Stat | Steeda STB, Sway | Flatout 5700 | SCT by Unleashed/LMS 93v11

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kaotikgood

Zaino is the best I've used and I tend to drive all black vehicles. like obsidian


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