Federal lawsuit against FMC regarding All Ford /Lincoln 2010+ 3.5 EB vehicles for defective intercooler issues .
http://www.gelaw.com/ford/ecoboost.php (http://www.gelaw.com/ford/ecoboost.php)
Horse Hockey. I've heard of F-150's having an intercooler problem but never a SHO/MKS. More lawyers causing more problems than they solve.
Quote from: DJE624 on March 26, 2014, 11:01:29 AM
Horse Hockey. I've heard of F-150's having an intercooler problem but never a SHO/MKS. More lawyers causing more problems than they solve.
Interesting read , I have heard talk of the issue . I just didn't know there was a lawsuit .
Quote from: DJE624 on March 26, 2014, 11:01:29 AM
Horse Hockey. I've heard of F-150's having an intercooler problem but never a SHO/MKS. More lawyers causing more problems than they solve.
Agreed. Have heard of the issue with F150's, and supposedly the fix by Ford. Never ever heard of this issue in a transverse application. And have never ever experienced this in either of my vehicles. Sounds like a lawyer about to get rich, and little or nothing to the plaintiffs.
Need to go to a you lose you pay type of court system, would get rid of 90% of the bullshit lawsuits.
I will tell you first that I am biased... If I have a problem I'll deal with it and don't often approve of most class actions I see.
This is clearly a solicitation for a class action lawsuit that has not been filed. Common practice these days. (No dis TSS... I have two attorneys that I use regularly). In my personal experience, with friends and medical issues, the injured party often doesn't receive much compensation (not enough to cover damages) after it's all said and done... these aren't inexpensive things to run.... but if they joined the class, they lose the right to litigate as individuals for your own damages.
I will call them out of interest... to see what they say my "damages" might be... The add alludes to the fact that my damage may be some amount of the money I paid for the SHO.... If so.... I'm inclined to echo Dave's post rather than contribute to increasing the cost of a vehicle that seems to generally serve me well.
Has anyone here ever had the "limp home" issue in the solicitation. I personally have never seen this here or on any forum in the SHO, so I don't believe at this time that it is common... that is to say they may be "fishing".
I would also be interested in TSS's views on this.
LOL, the intercooler is not a DEFECT.
Drive harder, stupid.
This is how turbos work.
If this were a real problem, some of us, as a significant portion of transverse V6 owners would have experienced it by now...
None the less , I'm curious as its out there being discussed.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28294741-Ford-sued-over-defects-in-3.5-L-Ecoboost-engine. (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28294741-Ford-sued-over-defects-in-3.5-L-Ecoboost-engine.)
Quote from: Lanson on March 26, 2014, 11:25:28 AM
LOL, the intercooler is not a DEFECT.
Drive harder, stupid.
This is how turbos work.
Perhaps to the point... even if the intercooler will not provide "race car" performance without failing... as many parts of many cars.
I still will call, as it is of interest to me and, if actually filed and settled, could cause me and countless others money related to increased build costs, IC replacements, and product liability insurance which Ford might incur. Still
if it's a really valid point....
However at this time maybe the thread title should be "Possible Lawsuit Regarding Possible Intercooler Defect"
I still pose the same question....
Has anyone here ever had the "limp home" issue mentioned in the solicitation?
I personally have never seen this here or on any forum in the SHO, so I don't believe at this time that it is common...
I think this was an F150 issue and has been solved with a TSB. There was some modification done to the intercooler, IIRC. I have NEVER heard of it in a transverse application.
Just saying, those of us here are a rather small sampling of the EB powered vehicles, and most of us are more knowledgeable them most on our vehicles, so I don't know what's going on with people who just buy and drive their EB powered vehicles...heck, I've only seen about 4-5 other SHO's (other then bamsho's) and those drivers didn't seem interested in talking about their vehicles or even waving to another SHO...so there may be a problem that we don't know about in untuned stock vehicles, that we just aren't seeing, just don't know.
I've heard the same thing f 150 when they first came out my friend was looking to buy an F 150 there was a lot of talk on the forums about hesitation, and performance issues and I think gas mileage
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If you read the articles you will see that this is a class action lawsuit involving multiple law firms and it HAS been filed .
All 3.5 EB vehicles are involved .
Do a generic google search " 3.5 ecoboost intercooler limp home " for discussion on this.
I found out about this because I was googling SHO 3.5 intercooler , looking for a " maybe " solution to an upgrade path .
Quote from: BiGMaC on March 26, 2014, 11:17:51 AM
I will tell you first that I am biased... If I have a problem I'll deal with it and don't often approve of most class actions I see.
This is clearly a solicitation for a class action lawsuit that has not been filed. Common practice these days. (No dis TSS... I have two attorneys that I use regularly).
I would also be interested in TSS's views on this.
Sorry, but unless the Intercooler in question is going through a divorce or having an issue with custody, I am not your man on this one.
If Ford had not issued the TSB and addressed the IC issue, there MIGHT have been some basis for a lawsuit. Not the case here. Dismiss the "lawsuit" already.
I wish I could say the same for the throttle body problems on the Edge. Thankfully not commonplace, but still officially un-recognized & un-addressed.
I had a buddy of mine experence an issue with his F-150 with the Ecoboost in it..it was due to it being rainy and humid out...went to pull out onto the highway and didn't have any power and nearly got nailed by a tractor trailer.
TSS.... understand, thought that might be the case... (no pun intended)
SW... The outcome will be interesting to read and hopefully produce information we all should have. I fear it will likely just be some settlement by Ford without admission or changes and accompanied by a gag order since this is the economical way to deal with this type of suit.
It is an interesting find though.... Please find that IC upgrade we all want.
Think I'll just await the resolution of the lawsuit rather than follow this in-depth since it couldn't help the SHO until something is proven to be wrong... I mean, all devices which cool air can cause condensation and the ECU protected the turbos, as it should, from ingesting liquids. Not defending Ford... just saying
Thanks for posting this. Very interested to find out what happens.
This sounds more like the knock sensor wire (issue) hitting the corner of the head/intake causing false knock which the motor goes into protect mode. Dont see an intercooler causing a power loss unless a pipe comes loose...? This affected just the tranverse cars I thought?
IC issue reared its' ugly head on the F-150s, no known similar issues with transverse engined brethren.
Quote from: SHOdded on March 26, 2014, 05:15:29 PM
IC issue reared its' ugly head on the F-150s, no known similar issues with transverse engined brethren.
You are correct.
I've been a member over at F150forum.com since late 2008 and am all too familiar with the F150's intercooler problem. Though aftermarket IC's seemed to have remedied the problem.