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Title: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 05, 2014, 09:05:13 PM
Hey Guys,
Ever since doing the LED treatment to my SHO last year I have been wanting to upgrade the projectors in the headlight assemblies. Mine being a Canadian car it didn't come with HID OEM. (Don't get me started). Let's face fact the OEM HID projectors leave something to be desired (We also own a 2011 Explorer with OEM HID) poor light spread, bad hot spots ect. Apparently most fords come with a either a Valeo D3S / Halogen projector (this is what is most likley in the cars SHO/MKS, Fusion) or the Hella E55 projector (like in the 2013 F150). Either way this should drop right in.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/components/projectors/morimoto-evox-r-bi-xenon-projectors-48636.html#.UxdaBF6ppiV (http://www.theretrofitsource.com/components/projectors/morimoto-evox-r-bi-xenon-projectors-48636.html#.UxdaBF6ppiV)

Performance highlights: Coming standard with a 3" clear lens and a mirror finish reflector bowl, the EvoX-R manages to make plenty of light. With a proper gradient of intensity from the cutoff line downwards in its low beam, and amazing table-top pattern high beam, you'll easily be blowing away Benzes at night with these.
Their bolt pattern is identical to older Hella 3" halogen, xenon, and bi-xenon projectors - so can be used as a direct bolt on upgrade to OEM or aftermarket housings that use these designs.

I am planning to pick up a pair of new take off headlight assemblies (Halogen) this weekend to experiment on. I was planning to get them color match painted any way, this will allow me to take my time with them and once completed install the take off's and sell mine. Once I have the headlight assemblies torn down I will start to post some pics for anyone interested. Cheers!

   
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on March 05, 2014, 09:13:17 PM
Exciting!!!  I think the first such upgrade on this forum.  Watching closely, and good luck with the project.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SwampRat on March 05, 2014, 09:19:42 PM
Looks promising for sure ..
I've looked at there site before as I'm looking for a sealed (weatherproof) HID projector assy  that can be mounted outside of a headlight shell  , to no avail .
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BiGMaC on March 05, 2014, 09:58:43 PM
Looks like a cool find!.... Good luck, hope it works out.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SwampRat on March 05, 2014, 10:38:30 PM
Quote from: BiGMaC on March 05, 2014, 09:58:43 PM
Looks like a cool find!.... Good luck, hope it works out.

Projector mods / upgrades are actually fairly common . A lot of folks wont attempt it because you have to take the shell assy. apart and reseal it .  Morimoto has some GOOD stuff to , but more expensive .

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/complete-retrofit-kits.html?___store=trsdefaultview (http://www.theretrofitsource.com/complete-retrofit-kits.html?___store=trsdefaultview)
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 05, 2014, 11:57:29 PM
^ very true! but no harder to accomplish than lets say installing a set of springs. The Evox-R's might be a bit cheaper than some of the other projectors out there, but my hope is that these will bolt into the OEM location and just plug in. Take a note from this forum and this fellow that is upgrading his Raptor. He purchased a brand new set of OEM F150 headlamps and opened them up right away lol! From his findings the aftermarket projector drops right into OEM housing and even plugged into the factory wiring to ensure that the eyelid function correctly. No cutting or hacking! Nothing turns me off more than taking a Dremel to a nice new headlight assembly to shoehorn a big projector into it. This should look completely stock with increased functionality and visibility. There is nothing worse than jamming HID's into a headlight designed for Halogen bulbs. (My case) but for those of you that want more I hope this works!

http://www.f150online.com/forums/illumination-lighting/477553-2013-ford-oem-hid-headlights-now-available.html (http://www.f150online.com/forums/illumination-lighting/477553-2013-ford-oem-hid-headlights-now-available.html)
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on March 06, 2014, 04:49:25 AM
Good read with pics!  Also consider connecting to the 20A fuses 57 & 78 normally used in OEM HID equipped SHO's (listings start on pg 281 of OM).
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on March 06, 2014, 07:36:14 AM
Subscribe! Having a Canadian SHO with upgraded HID in halogen projectors, I know how I could benefit from this. In fact I was on theretrofitsource.com website 1-2 weeks ago but didn't know exactly what to buy. Please take pictures and post an "how-to"!
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: MDesign Performance on March 06, 2014, 10:52:38 AM
Quote from: SwampRat on March 05, 2014, 10:38:30 PM
Quote from: BiGMaC on March 05, 2014, 09:58:43 PM
Looks like a cool find!.... Good luck, hope it works out.

Projector mods / upgrades are actually fairly common . A lot of folks wont attempt it because you have to take the shell assy. apart and reseal it .  Morimoto has some GOOD stuff to , but more expensive .

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/complete-retrofit-kits.html?___store=trsdefaultview (http://www.theretrofitsource.com/complete-retrofit-kits.html?___store=trsdefaultview)

I use to do this for forum members when I had my 08 Malibu, projector retrofits. Depending on how you/who seals the headlight, theres specific material such as 3M window glue to create a moisture-free seal.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 08, 2014, 04:14:27 PM
I picked up my new take offs today, and I have to say they are mint! Really stoked about this mod, after inspecting the headlights without the bottom plate it really looks like a Evox-r type projector. However I don't think that will matter, the chamber behind the plastic cover looks huge. I think we can fit pretty much any projector in there, we shall see. Interesting these say Ford and not Taurus in front of the projector, I think because they were off a limited and not a SHO. I think I will keep the Ford I think it looks kinda cool, also with the De-badge I have done to the car it was the only spot left that had Taurus on it. If I can custom make something up that says SHO I might go that route. I am going to take one apart either later tonight or tomorrow and I will have pics of the internals for you guys. 
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on March 08, 2014, 04:58:29 PM
How much did you pay the headlight assembly?
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 08, 2014, 05:11:50 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on March 08, 2014, 04:58:29 PM
How much did you pay the headlight assembly?
$200 each.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SwampRat on March 08, 2014, 05:34:53 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on March 08, 2014, 05:11:50 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on March 08, 2014, 04:58:29 PM
How much did you pay the headlight assembly?
$200 each.

Not bad .... are you going to use the HID ballasts that are in them or use aftermarket ones ?
The projectors you are going to use are Hella replacements .
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 08, 2014, 10:17:33 PM
These are the Halogen projectors, same as mine. I will use aftermarket ballasts and D2S bulbs (the OEM uses D3S bulbs). I decided to go this route as I didn't want to plug the hole in the bottom of the assembly where the factory ballast bolts in. The assemblies are identical with the exception of the color scheme and the projectors. The lenses are even identical between HID and Halogen (even the MKS use the same dimpled lens) Which is fuzzy and messes with the color of the HID's. Our explorer has a horrible cut off and they look more like the color of HIR halogen bulbs than true HID's. When I first got mine I thought they were HID, until I noticed a few days later driving at night the intensity wasn't there. The mounts for the projectors are the same. I was planning on using the Evox-r projectors (Hella E55). But until I get them apart I won't be sure. The Evox-r's are a decent step up from what's in there now. But there are better offerings to be had, I just want to be able to use the OEM level adjustment and not have to hack the assembly to fit something else in there. That said there is a ton of room in the assembly lol. More to come!
The SHO HID assemblies are below, note the hole in the bottom for the OEM ballasts, this is present in the Halogen ones to. It's just missing the cutout.

This guy has a ton of info on the different light output of different projectors, as you can see in his comparisons not all projectors are created equal. And after hours on the highway at night. Tired eyes are your worst enemy!
http://jvxdriver.com/bixenon_comparison.htm (http://jvxdriver.com/bixenon_comparison.htm)
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: explorergotoluvit on March 08, 2014, 11:04:40 PM
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=1742.0 (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=1742.0)


here is how mine turned out not evox-r  but a retrofit
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 09, 2014, 01:30:11 AM
Quote from: explorergotoluvit on March 08, 2014, 11:04:40 PM
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=1742.0 (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=1742.0)


here is how mine turned out not evox-r  but a retrofit
Those turned out awesome! Those look so much better than our 2011 Explorer with OEM HID. I am debating on which projector to install. But The FX-R's are at the top of my list! I didn't get a chance to break them open today, will for sure tomorrow. With the space in the housing I am thinking that I might just fit a set of LS460's in there. Won't know for sure until then.   

Funny thing, these headlight assemblies (Halogen) from ford parts .com are $650 each?? The HID (without bulbs or ballasts) are $597. Weird.....

Quick Question did they use the 3" or the 2.5 for your retro?
Thanks
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: explorergotoluvit on March 09, 2014, 06:20:47 PM
3

Ya i always say after market is always better then factory but yes i had a limited as well and the fxr performance ten times better lot more out put sometimes i would get in my limited and think i didn't even have hids..
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 09, 2014, 10:38:54 PM
Ok so some fun today lol. Not so much, I tried the bake method with the housings. Right I don't think so, the temp needed was causing the back of the housing to soften too much and was not working. These are after all permasealed. So out came the Dremel, yes I know I had to cut the lenses off the housings. The good thing is that there were easy to cut off and lots of area to reattach once all the mods are done. I will get them painted tomorrow and order my new projectors. I Should have no problem installing the FX-R's in there.   


Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: explorergotoluvit on March 09, 2014, 10:55:10 PM
you they replacing factory hid or halogen? if halogen are you make a wiring harness?
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on March 09, 2014, 11:39:53 PM
Man, those pics are TINY!!!  Dremeling seems to be the way to go for modern headlamps as they make advances with plastic welding.  Still need to get a good adhesive to put the pieces back together, maybe contact cement of some sort?
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 10, 2014, 12:33:02 AM
I will be using the OEM 9006 connections for the HID, I have 55W Morimoto ballasts now, I will use them the same way as now with a relay harness. The only difference will be the new D2S bulbs. I will use rubber butyl to re seal the headlights. http://www.theretrofitsource.com/accessories/oci-butyl-rubber-glue-48823.html#.Ux1Bbl6ppiU (http://www.theretrofitsource.com/accessories/oci-butyl-rubber-glue-48823.html#.Ux1Bbl6ppiU) The new paint scheme will be cool. Originally I was going to go all black, but now I am thinking just the gray I will paint to match, as the rest of the headlight is chrome and black already. A friend of mine is looking into doing a custom SHO badge for the housing and replacing the Ford. If he can do it that would definitely make them one of a kind! 

Also, now that I have them apart the lenses are most of the problem with our projectors, they are ridiculously cloudy and they have a slight color shift to yellow. Weird, I guess they are very cheap material.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5581/14323572982_809a458e9f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nPJ4dS)HID 4 (https://flic.kr/p/nPJ4dS) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2899/14138833217_e5e6ee49ac_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nxpdwv)HID (https://flic.kr/p/nxpdwv) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BiGMaC on March 10, 2014, 12:57:52 AM
I'll,be watching... good start.... take pics and keep track of what you do so you can post a "how to" please.
:beer2:
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 10, 2014, 12:58:25 AM
Will do!
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 15, 2014, 01:36:20 AM
So an update! I got my kit from UPS today and more fun lol. One of the projectors was DOA, I called The retrofit source and they promptly shipped me a new one but I was not impressed to say the least. The assemblies are painted and I am now fabricating some adapter plates to mount the new projectors, but they fit nicely without to much modification. Check out the pics for the messed up projector bowl and the dry fit for the new projectors.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on March 15, 2014, 06:58:50 AM
The dry fit looks good!  Noticing a bit of an uptick in issues with TRS products, hope they are working on correction.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 17, 2014, 11:35:50 AM
Fitting complete, wow what a PITA. I had to shave the brackets to reduce the mounting depth by 2mm to ensure a proper gap with the OEM housing. The EVOX-r's are about 2mm shorter.See pics for the final result. I should have them in this weekend and will post final results. Once I get a chance I will post a how to with lots of pics. Excuse all the fingerprints on the housings, they will be cleaned and buffed before sealing the lenses.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on March 17, 2014, 11:47:01 AM
You should sign the inside (a la Apple) before sealing up the lenses!
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BiGMaC on March 17, 2014, 12:01:24 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on March 17, 2014, 11:47:01 AM
You should sign the inside (a la Apple) before sealing up the lenses!

VERY cool idea Manu.... Ultimate personalization!
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 17, 2014, 12:55:15 PM
Agreed cool idea!
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 20, 2014, 12:04:46 PM
All done! I will be installing them tonight.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BiGMaC on March 20, 2014, 12:34:16 PM
Great job!   :clap2: Interested in your impressions and pics when you're done. What kind of adhesive/sealer did you use?
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on March 20, 2014, 04:29:35 PM
They look so good not even installed, how awesome are they going to be when in place???  :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SwampRat on March 20, 2014, 11:33:37 PM
Hope you have before nighttime shots to go with the new retina burner shots  !
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 21, 2014, 12:00:26 AM
All done! I was surprised at how easy it was to remove the front bumper, and then the headlights. I have posted a few pics for the after results. I will do a full how to over the weekend for those of you that may want to take this on. All I can say is holy crap, night and day difference literally. It's not even close, comparing these to the stock HID's in my 2011 Explorer not even close. If you drive at night this is the mod for you, not to mention that the glass looks so much better then the stock frosted and dimpled lenses.
Please exceuse the crappy IPhone pics, but you get the idea.

Edit, these shots are low beam only. I will have a full set of shots this weekend with a decent camera and hi/low beam.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2934/14345576113_8876d2fc3e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nREPZc)HID (2) (https://flic.kr/p/nREPZc) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5541/14325380985_f68261b245_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nPTjFk)HID (3) (https://flic.kr/p/nPTjFk) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BiGMaC on March 21, 2014, 12:33:22 AM
Absolutely Stellar!  :thumb: I love the change of the sidemarker and turn to white! Great vision, Great color temp.  Job well done! :dude:
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 21, 2014, 01:25:30 AM
Thanks Bigmac! The entire car is outfitted with 5k color bulbs including the HID's
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on March 21, 2014, 03:44:04 AM
Never doubted it, but the the SHO deserved this upgrade.  TIA for the writeup, some cool work for sure.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on March 21, 2014, 10:25:52 AM
Definetly an upgrade! Me want
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 21, 2014, 10:48:33 AM
Quote from: BiGMaC on March 20, 2014, 12:34:16 PM
Great job!   :clap2: Interested in your impressions and pics when you're done. What kind of adhesive/sealer did you use?

A combo of Butyl windshield sealant and Silicone.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 21, 2014, 03:37:08 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on March 21, 2014, 10:25:52 AM
Definetly an upgrade! Me want

I have a set of headlight assemblies that I might be selling, that I just took off my SHO. I'm not sure what I am going to do with them. I might do this process and offer for sale. Not sure yet.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on March 21, 2014, 03:40:50 PM
If you do switch projectors and lenses in your spare headlight assembly, I am taking them!
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on March 21, 2014, 03:54:04 PM
I think you just created a market for this!
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 23, 2014, 12:21:59 PM
A few more pics of output capabilities for you guys. Taken nearby at the Ford assembly plant! I am truly astounded at the difference! The last shot is a hi-beam shot, check out the Expressway sign way off in the distance lol.
Low Beam

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5586/14138766590_8de13a05a6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nxoSHL)HID (1) (https://flic.kr/p/nxoSHL) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr

Wall Shot

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2901/14138789170_d5e6b184b2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nxoZr5)HID (7) (https://flic.kr/p/nxoZr5) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr

High Beam

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2903/14325387225_130d1688d1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nPTmwV)HID (6) (https://flic.kr/p/nPTmwV) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: geswek on March 23, 2014, 12:41:15 PM
This was on a non HID car?

Sent from my mobile, I think.

Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 23, 2014, 01:43:38 PM
Quote from: geswek on March 23, 2014, 12:41:15 PM
This was on a non HID car?

Sent from my mobile, I think.



Yup, Canadian car. For whatever reason Ford made the Canadian cars with Halogen Projectors. Either way this is a huge upgrade from Halogen (with an HID 9006 bulb) or the OEM HID system. 
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: geswek on March 23, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
Can this upgrade be done with stock HID system? It seems like maybe better projectors would help Ford HID system out?

Sent from my mobile, I think.

Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 23, 2014, 02:16:48 PM
Quote from: geswek on March 23, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
Can this upgrade be done with stock HID system? It seems like maybe better projectors would help Ford HID system out?

Sent from my mobile, I think.


Yes and no, LOL. You can do the same mod to the Stock HID system your also. However you really can't use the OEM ballasts. The SHO uses a D3S bulb and ballast that goes with it. The igniter is attached to the base of the bulb and not in the ballast. You might be able to modify a D2S projector to accept the D3S bulb, but that would be a PITA. The way I would do an HID car would be to either pick up a pair of Halogen projector assemblies and use a OEM or Aftermarket ballast for a D2S bulb. Or use the HID assemblies and not use the OEM ballast and bulb, and pick up a kit like this. And bypass the OEM system altogether. The nice thing about using a set of Halogen assemblies you can pick up a pair of them for around $350 to $400. Take your time doing the retro, keep the OEM setup in the event you sell your car you can put them back on the car and sell your retro setup. My convert cost about $800.00 for everything and I have a set of extra assemblies that I may sell. BTW your HID assemblies are going for $450.00 to $500 each on eBay with ballasts and bulbs. You could do the retro and then sell yours on eBay and make a profit and still have a better HID system than stock!     

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/components/projectors/morimoto-evox-r-bi-xenon-projectors-48722.html#.Uy8jcceppiU (http://www.theretrofitsource.com/components/projectors/morimoto-evox-r-bi-xenon-projectors-48722.html#.Uy8jcceppiU)

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/hid-systems/morimoto-elite-d2s-hid-system.html#.Uy8jM8eppiU (http://www.theretrofitsource.com/hid-systems/morimoto-elite-d2s-hid-system.html#.Uy8jM8eppiU)





Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 24, 2014, 10:45:53 AM
For those of you looking for a before pic here it is, this was with 5K 9006 HID at 50W, it's kinda sad lol.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2902/14323650572_1e3cca427f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nPJshC)HID (8) (https://flic.kr/p/nPJshC) by sho.boat (https://www.flickr.com/people/123563504@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on March 24, 2014, 10:48:31 AM
That looks exactly like my 4300k 55w 9012
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 24, 2014, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: BigPelo on March 24, 2014, 10:48:31 AM
That looks exactly like my 4300k 55w 9012

Hey BigPelo, be careful running 50W in the halogen reflectors. Unless you are using a decent quality bulb you might cook the reflector bowls. I have read about it on the hidplanet forum. The cheap Chinese import bulbs emit too much UV and will yellow the reflector bowls over time and the will look dimmer. Get at least the Morimoto XB35's, Unless of course you do the upgrade ;) 
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on March 24, 2014, 11:20:18 AM
It's a german kit, not cheap. I still want the upgrade. I already have a D2S kit of ballasts capacitors and bulbs to put in the EvoX-R projectors!
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: Frozen Taurus on March 24, 2014, 03:46:57 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on March 24, 2014, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: BigPelo on March 24, 2014, 10:48:31 AM
That looks exactly like my 4300k 55w 9012

Hey BigPelo, be careful running 50W in the halogen reflectors. Unless you are using a decent quality bulb you might cook the reflector bowls. I have read about it on the hidplanet forum. The cheap Chinese import bulbs emit too much UV and will yellow the reflector bowls over time and the will look dimmer. Get at least the Morimoto XB35's, Unless of course you do the upgrade ;)

Any issues with using Osram night breaker unlimited 60w 9005's in my car?
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on March 24, 2014, 04:20:00 PM
Not sure 9005 will fit. It requises 9012. Or modifier 9006.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: Frozen Taurus on March 24, 2014, 04:25:13 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on March 24, 2014, 04:20:00 PM
Not sure 9005 will fit. It requises 9012. Or modifier 9006.

for a 2011 SHO?
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on March 24, 2014, 04:27:08 PM
Quote from: Frozen Taurus on March 24, 2014, 04:25:13 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on March 24, 2014, 04:20:00 PM
Not sure 9005 will fit. It requises 9012. Or modifier 9006.

for a 2011 SHO?

I had my 2013 in head sorry. Dont know for 2011MY.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: Frozen Taurus on March 24, 2014, 04:28:37 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on March 24, 2014, 04:27:08 PM
Quote from: Frozen Taurus on March 24, 2014, 04:25:13 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on March 24, 2014, 04:20:00 PM
Not sure 9005 will fit. It requises 9012. Or modifier 9006.

for a 2011 SHO?

I had my 2013 in head sorry. Dont know for 2011MY.

Ya it's a 9005 in the 2011 SHO
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on March 24, 2014, 04:30:31 PM
Now, 60w seems like a lot to me. You might need to connect ballasts directly to the battery to have enough juice?
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: Frozen Taurus on March 24, 2014, 04:33:32 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on March 24, 2014, 04:30:31 PM
Now, 60w seems like a lot to me. You might need to connect ballasts directly to the battery to have enough juice?

I hope not ... nothing in the website said anything about that when I purchased them
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: Frozen Taurus on March 24, 2014, 04:35:00 PM
http://www.powerbulbs.com/ca/product/night-breaker-unlimited-hb3 (http://www.powerbulbs.com/ca/product/night-breaker-unlimited-hb3)
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on March 24, 2014, 08:40:07 PM
Quote from: Frozen Taurus on March 24, 2014, 04:35:00 PM
http://www.powerbulbs.com/ca/product/night-breaker-unlimited-hb3 (http://www.powerbulbs.com/ca/product/night-breaker-unlimited-hb3)

You should be ok with those, they are halogen not hid. The oem bulbs are 55w halogen or HIR. Same difference. So 5w shouldn't do anything. 55w HID put out much more light than a halogen bulb. And put out more uv radiation. That's why the good ones put a uv coating on the bulbs.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on May 31, 2014, 12:20:25 PM
Would you mind updating the pics in this thread, ShoBoat?  Quite a few seem to be erroring out?  TIA.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on May 31, 2014, 05:43:23 PM
Will do


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Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on June 01, 2014, 09:48:48 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on May 31, 2014, 12:20:25 PM
Would you mind updating the pics in this thread, ShoBoat?  Quite a few seem to be erroring out?  TIA.

Done
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on June 01, 2014, 11:42:37 PM
Thank you, much appreciated!
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on July 04, 2014, 08:03:32 PM
My retrofit is completed. Mini D2S 3.0 projectors with Morimoto 3five ballasts and bulbs.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on July 04, 2014, 08:04:21 PM
Pics?
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on July 04, 2014, 08:10:36 PM
Waiting for darkness...
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on July 04, 2014, 09:08:21 PM
Night has fallen ...
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on July 04, 2014, 09:13:26 PM
Up north, I can still see the sun...
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on July 04, 2014, 09:17:43 PM
Here are pics of the headlights. Also have a DEL in the parking light.

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i380/bigpelo/Mobile%20Uploads/20140704_205136_zpsu5cxyapf.jpg) (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/bigpelo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140704_205136_zpsu5cxyapf.jpg.html)
(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i380/bigpelo/Mobile%20Uploads/20140704_205146_zpsfm8v011d.jpg) (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/bigpelo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140704_205146_zpsfm8v011d.jpg.html)
(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i380/bigpelo/Mobile%20Uploads/20140704_205214_zpsvhexrf75.jpg) (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/bigpelo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140704_205214_zpsvhexrf75.jpg.html)
(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i380/bigpelo/Mobile%20Uploads/20140704_210107_zpsef0zpzmg.jpg) (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/bigpelo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140704_210107_zpsef0zpzmg.jpg.html)
(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i380/bigpelo/Mobile%20Uploads/20140704_210118_zpsz14flkt9.jpg) (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/bigpelo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140704_210118_zpsz14flkt9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on July 04, 2014, 09:37:06 PM
Looks great!
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on July 04, 2014, 09:40:11 PM
This sucks: passenger light isn't lighting anymore. And as I am alone with my two young children sleeping in the house, I can't troobleshot right now. Anyway here's a pic with only one light.

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i380/bigpelo/Mobile%20Uploads/20140704_212715_zpsghplsvyd.jpg) (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/bigpelo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140704_212715_zpsghplsvyd.jpg.html)

And front shoot

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i380/bigpelo/Mobile%20Uploads/20140704_212659_zpsdqb23jam.jpg) (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/bigpelo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140704_212659_zpsdqb23jam.jpg.html)
Title: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on July 04, 2014, 09:51:30 PM
How is it wired? Relay harness or direct? Funny (not really) I had one of my ballasts fry last night. It could just be a loose wire.


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Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on July 04, 2014, 09:53:52 PM
Harness. Might be a fuse, hopefully...
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on July 04, 2014, 10:11:36 PM
So bright even with just 1 HID!  Hopefully not a ballast, but even TRS is no longer immune :(
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on July 04, 2014, 10:26:55 PM
If it's a ballast (hope not) I have a pair of Morimoto 5five on hand. My retrofitter didn't want to use them because it would be too bright he says.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on July 04, 2014, 10:40:57 PM
If it's a harness setup, chances are it's a loose wire. When mine went it blew the fuse and both were out. I had to pull both ballasts to find the issue. Unless both headlights have their own fuse. Or it could be a bad igniter. Seen that happen too. Good luck with the trouble shooting!
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on July 04, 2014, 11:21:05 PM
Per the 2013 US OM, 20A fuses 57 and 78 underhood are for the OEM HIDs.  Don't know if that is different on Canadian spec SHOs or not.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on July 05, 2014, 07:07:15 AM
Morimoto kits have one fuse per bulb directly on the relayer harness. I would prefer a loose wire anyway.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on July 05, 2014, 10:14:00 AM
Quote from: BigPelo on July 05, 2014, 07:07:15 AM
Morimoto kits have one fuse per bulb directly on the relayer harness. I would prefer a loose wire anyway.

Weird, I have the Morimoto kit and relay harness and I have only one fuse for the ballast power.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on July 07, 2014, 08:45:50 PM
Well, the connector between the ballast and bulb wasn't clipped to the bulb. So I tried to connect it back but it wouldn't. I believe the pins on the bulb are broken.

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i380/bigpelo/Mobile%20Uploads/20140707_201211_zps5jg4yhvp.jpg) (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/bigpelo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140707_201211_zps5jg4yhvp.jpg.html)
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ShoBoat on July 07, 2014, 09:21:28 PM
Yup, it looks like the pins are missing. That sucks, I guess you need to grab another set of bulbs.


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Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on July 30, 2014, 10:48:59 PM
Tried another bulb 2 weeks ago and it didn't light. Tonight I take off the front bumper again and both headlights. Swap ballasts and boom! Problem found. I had a spare 5five so now it works and works well! Pics after height adjustment.
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on July 30, 2014, 11:01:24 PM
Let there be light, he said!  Eagerly awaiting pics :D
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: Gjkrisa on September 03, 2017, 12:39:12 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on March 05, 2014, 09:05:13 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on July 07, 2014, 08:45:50 PM
Well, the connector between the ballast and bulb wasn't clipped to the bulb. So I tried to connect it back but it wouldn't. I believe the pins on the bulb are broken.

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i380/bigpelo/Mobile%20Uploads/20140707_201211_zps5jg4yhvp.jpg) (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/bigpelo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140707_201211_zps5jg4yhvp.jpg.html)
That braket holding the hid on is that special or oem?
This winter i plan to upgrade the projectors w/ factory hid ballast i really like to change the ballast if anyone knows if i need or don't need canbus connection? Be nice to use the ds2 for extra room to change the bulbs.

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Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on September 05, 2017, 08:27:59 AM
Quote from: Gjkrisa on September 03, 2017, 12:39:12 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on March 05, 2014, 09:05:13 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on July 07, 2014, 08:45:50 PM
Well, the connector between the ballast and bulb wasn't clipped to the bulb. So I tried to connect it back but it wouldn't. I believe the pins on the bulb are broken.

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i380/bigpelo/Mobile%20Uploads/20140707_201211_zps5jg4yhvp.jpg) (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/bigpelo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140707_201211_zps5jg4yhvp.jpg.html)
That braket holding the hid on is that special or oem?
This winter i plan to upgrade the projectors w/ factory hid ballast i really like to change the ballast if anyone knows if i need or don't need canbus connection? Be nice to use the ds2 for extra room to change the bulbs.

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Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: SHOdded on September 05, 2017, 09:14:11 AM
Good to see you posting again, BigPelo!
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: Gjkrisa on September 05, 2017, 09:45:38 AM
Quote from: BigPelo on September 05, 2017, 08:27:59 AM
Quote from: Gjkrisa on September 03, 2017, 12:39:12 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on March 05, 2014, 09:05:13 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on July 07, 2014, 08:45:50 PM
Well, the connector between the ballast and bulb wasn't clipped to the bulb. So I tried to connect it back but it wouldn't. I believe the pins on the bulb are broken.

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i380/bigpelo/Mobile%20Uploads/20140707_201211_zps5jg4yhvp.jpg) (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/bigpelo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140707_201211_zps5jg4yhvp.jpg.html)
That braket holding the hid on is that special or oem?
This winter i plan to upgrade the projectors w/ factory hid ballast i really like to change the ballast if anyone knows if i need or don't need canbus connection? Be nice to use the ds2 for extra room to change the bulbs.

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I have a canadian car so originally halogen projectors. Ballasts, bulbs and projectors are all aftermarket.

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Sorry i said hid i meant to say projector.
is the plastic holding the projector aftermarket or is that oem

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Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on September 06, 2017, 06:57:38 AM
Quote from: Gjkrisa on September 05, 2017, 09:45:38 AM
Quote from: BigPelo on September 05, 2017, 08:27:59 AM
Quote from: Gjkrisa on September 03, 2017, 12:39:12 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on March 05, 2014, 09:05:13 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on July 07, 2014, 08:45:50 PM
Well, the connector between the ballast and bulb wasn't clipped to the bulb. So I tried to connect it back but it wouldn't. I believe the pins on the bulb are broken.

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i380/bigpelo/Mobile%20Uploads/20140707_201211_zps5jg4yhvp.jpg) (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/bigpelo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140707_201211_zps5jg4yhvp.jpg.html)
That braket holding the hid on is that special or oem?
This winter i plan to upgrade the projectors w/ factory hid ballast i really like to change the ballast if anyone knows if i need or don't need canbus connection? Be nice to use the ds2 for extra room to change the bulbs.

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I have a canadian car so originally halogen projectors. Ballasts, bulbs and projectors are all aftermarket.

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Sorry i said hid i meant to say projector.
is the plastic holding the projector aftermarket or is that oem

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That is OEM, canadian headlight tough

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Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: BigPelo on September 06, 2017, 06:58:14 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on September 05, 2017, 09:14:11 AM
Good to see you posting again, BigPelo!
Always lurking around

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Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: ZSHO on September 06, 2017, 07:02:37 AM
Quote from: BigPelo on September 06, 2017, 06:58:14 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on September 05, 2017, 09:14:11 AM
Good to see you posting again, BigPelo!
Always lurking around

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x2-Welcome back BigPelo! Don't be a stranger. Z  :)
Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: Gjkrisa on September 06, 2017, 09:56:21 AM
Quote from: BigPelo on September 06, 2017, 06:57:38 AM
Quote from: Gjkrisa on September 05, 2017, 09:45:38 AM
Quote from: BigPelo on September 05, 2017, 08:27:59 AM
Quote from: Gjkrisa on September 03, 2017, 12:39:12 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on March 05, 2014, 09:05:13 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on July 07, 2014, 08:45:50 PM
Well, the connector between the ballast and bulb wasn't clipped to the bulb. So I tried to connect it back but it wouldn't. I believe the pins on the bulb are broken.

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i380/bigpelo/Mobile%20Uploads/20140707_201211_zps5jg4yhvp.jpg) (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/bigpelo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140707_201211_zps5jg4yhvp.jpg.html)
That braket holding the hid on is that special or oem?
This winter i plan to upgrade the projectors w/ factory hid ballast i really like to change the ballast if anyone knows if i need or don't need canbus connection? Be nice to use the ds2 for extra room to change the bulbs.

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I have a canadian car so originally halogen projectors. Ballasts, bulbs and projectors are all aftermarket.

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Sorry i said hid i meant to say projector.
is the plastic holding the projector aftermarket or is that oem

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That is OEM, canadian headlight tough

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Cool i just couldn't see the bracket in this picture and thought it was ordered some how or it came with the evor-x (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/0e818f9ca1ace91f017c21ff40e0fee4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/74d5ed4e154e062c638c6c5f07111654.jpg)

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Title: Re: HID headlamp upgrade EVOX-R
Post by: Gjkrisa on September 06, 2017, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: Gjkrisa on September 06, 2017, 09:56:21 AM
Quote from: BigPelo on September 06, 2017, 06:57:38 AM
Quote from: Gjkrisa on September 05, 2017, 09:45:38 AM
Quote from: BigPelo on September 05, 2017, 08:27:59 AM
Quote from: Gjkrisa on September 03, 2017, 12:39:12 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on March 05, 2014, 09:05:13 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on July 07, 2014, 08:45:50 PM
Well, the connector between the ballast and bulb wasn't clipped to the bulb. So I tried to connect it back but it wouldn't. I believe the pins on the bulb are broken.

(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i380/bigpelo/Mobile%20Uploads/20140707_201211_zps5jg4yhvp.jpg) (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/bigpelo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140707_201211_zps5jg4yhvp.jpg.html)
That braket holding the hid on is that special or oem?
This winter i plan to upgrade the projectors w/ factory hid ballast i really like to change the ballast if anyone knows if i need or don't need canbus connection? Be nice to use the ds2 for extra room to change the bulbs.

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I have a canadian car so originally halogen projectors. Ballasts, bulbs and projectors are all aftermarket.

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Sorry i said hid i meant to say projector.
is the plastic holding the projector aftermarket or is that oem

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That is OEM, canadian headlight tough

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Cool i just couldn't see the bracket in this picture and thought it was ordered some how or it came with the evor-x (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/0e818f9ca1ace91f017c21ff40e0fee4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/74d5ed4e154e062c638c6c5f07111654.jpg)

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