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Title: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on January 26, 2014, 05:56:54 PM
I will have a test unit here soon but this is actually a neat device. For one it can be used along with custom tuning and give you the ability to adjust boost inside the vehicle on the fly. And it can also be used on its own to allow a completely warranty friendly way of turning the boost up without the need for a programmer or reflashing the vehicle. I have been a JMS dealer for a long time and have access to all of their products.

PDF link to the 2014 catalog go to page 15
www.jmschip.com/content/JMS_2014_Catalog_Web.pdf (http://www.jmschip.com/content/JMS_2014_Catalog_Web.pdf)

(http://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/attachments/6712d1390776270-incoming-new-product-jms-boost-max-screenshot-2014-01-21-13.58.32.jpg)
(http://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6713&d=1390776281)
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: EcoPowerParts on January 26, 2014, 06:28:56 PM
Torrie for the upgraded turbos would this be a good solution along with a custom tune?
It would be awesome to see if they could come up with a RPM based boost map with it.
I can't read the images you posted so I don't know if that's an option already.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: Josephm on January 26, 2014, 06:34:40 PM
What's the price point? I would like to combine this with a tune .

Sorry if it is in catalog. On phone
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on January 26, 2014, 06:44:42 PM
It will be under $300. It modify's the pressure curve that is being commanded through the calibration either up or down. So yes it will work with or without custom tuning. Just depends on the end goal.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: Josephm on January 26, 2014, 06:51:04 PM
Your the man for finding this!
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: SwampRat on January 26, 2014, 06:56:24 PM
Have to check this out more when I have time.  ..... WOW
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: Josephm on January 26, 2014, 09:01:30 PM
When will this be available?
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on January 26, 2014, 09:06:41 PM
In a week or two.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: BiGMaC on January 26, 2014, 09:22:09 PM
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on January 26, 2014, 06:28:56 PM
Torrie for the upgraded turbos would this be a good solution along with a custom tune?
It would be awesome to see if they could come up with a RPM based boost map with it.
I can't read the images you posted so I don't know if that's an option already.

Great idea!
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: SHOdded on January 26, 2014, 10:26:02 PM
For a larger view of the catalog page:

(http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/gallery/60_26_01_14_8_24_20.jpeg)
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: Josephm on January 26, 2014, 11:13:36 PM
I take it, it has fail safes built into it. To prevent someone from cranking it, and over boosting? Or will the Ford ECU shut it down before it comes to that?
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: boostedflex on January 27, 2014, 08:11:41 AM
Hey Torrie,

Any thoughts on tranny issues?  I am not an expert, but without the firmer shifts when using this stand alone, could their be issues with slippage?  Along with that, any concerns on line pressures at part throttle?  I toasted a tranny in a 96 Z-28 due to an overly oiled K&N, so things like this scare me a bit.  I have to say if this pans out, I REALLY want it :)

Thanks
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on January 27, 2014, 08:18:59 AM
So I guess I need this explained to me exactly what benefits this gives you when a custom tune is already in play?
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: bigmoneycloser on January 27, 2014, 08:32:42 AM
My exact question....
If you have a custom tune already..
And then you increase the boost..it sounds like a disaster about to happen.. The tune already increases the boost to higher "safe/tested" boost levels and then if you increase it more????
Or I'm just not understanding??


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Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: vernonator on January 27, 2014, 08:43:10 AM
If you read the catalog page provided it states it "compatible with JMS Custom Tunes"....is that accurate? (I would hope it is being from their catalog and all). And does that imply ONLY JMS Tunes?
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: 68_GT on January 27, 2014, 09:10:59 AM
need more info !

I'd buy one if it will let me keep boost to redline / shift point with my LMS tune, but it seems like LMS scrapped the XV1 tune because they couldn't get the tune to safely hold boost to redline / shift point with out causing issues somewhere else ???

for the most part (except some occasional hesitation) I'm happy with my current tune from a dead stop but I dont see much boost at speed since it bleeds off in the higher revs.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: BiGMaC on January 27, 2014, 09:23:46 AM
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on January 27, 2014, 08:32:42 AM
My exact question....
If you have a custom tune already..
And then you increase the boost..it sounds like a disaster about to happen.. The tune already increases the boost to higher "safe/tested" boost levels and then if you increase it more????
Or I'm just not understanding??

My biggest question exactly BMC... Is it safe? Plus, after reading the catalog pages I wonder if it works with tunes other than JMS?
It would also seem a cinch that you'd likely need hotpipes to prevent turbo leaks at the very least.

Torrie, what can you tell us on these issues?
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on January 27, 2014, 04:39:47 PM
Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on January 27, 2014, 08:18:59 AM
So I guess I need this explained to me exactly what benefits this gives you when a custom tune is already in play?
Quote from: boostedflex on January 27, 2014, 08:11:41 AM
Hey Torrie,

Any thoughts on tranny issues?  I am not an expert, but without the firmer shifts when using this stand alone, could their be issues with slippage?  Along with that, any concerns on line pressures at part throttle?  I toasted a tranny in a 96 Z-28 due to an overly oiled K&N, so things like this scare me a bit.  I have to say if this pans out, I REALLY want it :)

Thanks

If you want transmission tuning as well your best option then would be to go with custom tuning. This device in itself allows you to increase boost.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on January 27, 2014, 04:40:28 PM
Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on January 27, 2014, 08:18:59 AM
So I guess I need this explained to me exactly what benefits this gives you when a custom tune is already in play?

The ability to adjust boost on the fly in the vehicle.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on January 27, 2014, 04:41:43 PM
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on January 27, 2014, 08:32:42 AM
My exact question....
If you have a custom tune already..
And then you increase the boost..it sounds like a disaster about to happen.. The tune already increases the boost to higher "safe/tested" boost levels and then if you increase it more????
Or I'm just not understanding??


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The calibration will need to be adjusted to use this correctly in the event you have a custom tune already. Otherwise it works safely with the factory calibration.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on January 27, 2014, 04:42:44 PM
Quote from: vernonator on January 27, 2014, 08:43:10 AM
If you read the catalog page provided it states it "compatible with JMS Custom Tunes"....is that accurate? (I would hope it is being from their catalog and all). And does that imply ONLY JMS Tunes?

No, I can make adjustments with my calibrations to work in tandem with this device.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on January 27, 2014, 04:45:12 PM
Device Facts: it is a microprocessor controlled device that works well with the stock ecu.

Is BoostMAX as good as an aftermarket calibration? NO.

Does a ecoboost function better than stock with BoostMAX: YES.

BoostMAX was designed for two purposes:

1)  Work alone on a stock ecoboost to Add additional power without ruining the way the car drives and without voiding your factory warranty.

2) When you buy the optional remote knob...it Is a stackable product that works along with a custom SCT ecu calibration.  Use the knob to adjust the boost level....on the fly.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: SwampRat on January 27, 2014, 07:38:48 PM
Quote from: tmcphail on January 27, 2014, 04:45:12 PM
Device Facts: it is a microprocessor controlled device that works well with the stock ecu.

Is BoostMAX as good as an aftermarket calibration? NO.

Does a ecoboost function better than stock with BoostMAX: YES.

BoostMAX was designed for two purposes:

1)  Work alone on a stock ecoboost to Add additional power without ruining the way the car drives and without voiding your factory warranty.

2) When you buy the optional remote knob...it Is a stackable product that works along with a custom SCT ecu calibration.  Use the knob to adjust the boost level....on the fly.




Thank you Torrie for clarifying this .... Looks to Be a valid upgrade option , especial with one of your tunes in play .... YOU HAVE A NEW CUSTOMER    ........ Very Soon ! !
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on January 27, 2014, 08:14:09 PM
No problem
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on January 27, 2014, 08:23:31 PM
So does this offer anything over the performance of a custom tune? More boost? More nobs?
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on January 27, 2014, 08:32:44 PM
Potentially yes and the ability to change boost on the fly in the vehicle.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: bigmoneycloser on January 27, 2014, 08:45:02 PM
So..... If you were going to run this set up with a custom tune.. Would the tune actually be set up with a lower boost setting to give you the ability to increase or decrease boost?

Because if the tune is already set up at "Maximum" performance levels and then you turned up the boost... Wouldn't that be bad??
I'm assuming a custom tune from whomever... Is set up for the maximum performance the vehicle can safely handle..


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Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on January 27, 2014, 08:50:23 PM
That would be accurate.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: bigmoneycloser on January 27, 2014, 08:52:48 PM
Now it's making sense..
So my next question is....
What benefit would I have by running lower boost at times when I'm not getting in trouble? (I'm not going to track.)


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Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on January 27, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
Well yes if you had the desire at times to limit power in that regard.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: boostedflex on February 10, 2014, 08:30:29 AM
Hey Torrie, any further updates on this, I really am interested in how this product will work as a stand alone device :)
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on February 10, 2014, 09:58:33 AM
Waiting on my test unit to come in.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: SwampRat on May 04, 2014, 11:31:10 PM
Any updates , or is this a dud ?
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on May 05, 2014, 12:15:24 AM
No device no update.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: SuperBrick on May 04, 2016, 12:34:26 PM
Bringing back a post from the dead however has anyone on here used this devise and only this devise?  I have not put a full tune on mine since I would like to keep my extended warranty however if this little bugger works in line with everything else to give it a little more pep in her step, I would love that. 

The only questions I have is that is there truly no trace of a signal alteration in the cars ECU should a problem arise?  And I have heard people mention that the ecu may eventually re-calibrate itself back to stock levels over time with this devise.  Is there any truth to that?  I like the idea of being able to take it back to stock for routine service appointments.

Thanks and sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere. 
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on May 04, 2016, 12:47:39 PM
Completely untraceable once you remove it. I have them in stock

http://www.unleashedtuning.com/jms-boostmax-for-3-5l/ (http://www.unleashedtuning.com/jms-boostmax-for-3-5l/)

Quote from: SuperBrick on May 04, 2016, 12:34:26 PM
Bringing back a post from the dead however has anyone on here used this devise and only this devise?  I have not put a full tune on mine since I would like to keep my extended warranty however if this little bugger works in line with everything else to give it a little more pep in her step, I would love that. 

The only questions I have is that is there truly no trace of a signal alteration in the cars ECU should a problem arise?  And I have heard people mention that the ecu may eventually re-calibrate itself back to stock levels over time with this devise.  Is there any truth to that?  I like the idea of being able to take it back to stock for routine service appointments.

Thanks and sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere. 
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: SuperBrick on May 04, 2016, 01:12:40 PM
Thank you for the super fast response.  Can you clarify on the other question?  I have read a couple places that the ecu will eventually recalibrate back to normal?  I have seen that in a few comments however based on how this works, the ecu does what it needs to based on signal inputs and as long as that signal is being altered, it will continue running at higher boost levels. 

Can you also confirm AFR stays in a nice happy place with the increased boost?  I understand there is extra room built into the factory tune but going from 10.5 to 15 is almost 50% more boost.  Just thought I would check first.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on May 04, 2016, 01:21:55 PM
No
AFR follows stock command
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: SuperBrick on May 04, 2016, 01:25:04 PM
Awesome!  Thanks again.  The only ecu tuning I know is from OBD-0 tuning back in the day.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: tmcphail on May 04, 2016, 01:26:33 PM
No problem.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: SuperBrick on May 05, 2016, 05:39:57 PM
Deleting all things negative I see.  Classy.
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: SHOdded on May 05, 2016, 05:42:06 PM
Ummm ... thread was split off because it didn't seem to belong in the vendor section anymore.  You can continue to pose questions for Torrie right here though.

Here's the new thread:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,6144.0.html (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,6144.0.html)
Title: Re: Incoming new product JMS Boost Max.
Post by: SuperBrick on May 05, 2016, 06:14:17 PM
Perhaps I should get to know the site format better before opening my mouth.  My apologies.  I didn't realize it was split off and I couldn't find it.  Feel free to delete my shenanigans.

Carry on.
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