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Title: BOV to VTA
Post by: 2010SHOtime on January 27, 2014, 10:46:27 AM
Hey guys,
I was trying to do some research and see how to set the BOV to VTA but was not able to find an exact answer but there's a good possibility I overlooked it. I saw the how to article for the flex but is it the exact same process on a 2010 SHO?
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: EcoPowerParts on January 27, 2014, 10:47:07 AM
Yes, same process for all transverse vehicles.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: 2010SHOtime on January 27, 2014, 11:21:10 AM
Thanks Mike!!!
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: 13brute on February 07, 2014, 08:52:24 PM
Is there a way someone could post a link to actual show me how to do this???
Thanks
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: DJE624 on February 07, 2014, 09:00:07 PM
It's really easy.  Just remove the hoses from the BOV to the intake.  The front is super easy.  Sqeeze the clamps and wiggle the tube off.  The back, I just took the end off the intake.  Then, pop on the caps.  Your done. 

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t440/DJE624/Plugs001_zpse3ad6974.jpg)

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t440/DJE624/Plugs004_zps40c44d4a.jpg)

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t440/DJE624/004_zps6fa558cf.jpg)
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: bigmoneycloser on February 07, 2014, 09:54:29 PM
Can I do this on the XSport? Same location/process?
Is the sound the only benefit?(cool benefit) is there any down side?
Thx
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: DJE624 on February 07, 2014, 10:04:36 PM
You should be able to.  Might be a little different.  Just a noise benefit.  No known down side.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: 2Canches on February 08, 2014, 01:38:07 AM
I did this on my f150. It has one downside.  I play with it to much so I lose fuel economy ;(


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Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SHOdded on February 08, 2014, 06:17:51 AM
Quote from: 2Canches on February 08, 2014, 01:38:07 AM
I did this on my f150. It has one downside.  I play with it to much so I lose fuel economy ;(


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LOL
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: pejohnson on February 08, 2014, 09:58:45 AM
This great, thanks for the pictures. 
Quote from: DJE624 on February 07, 2014, 09:00:07 PM
It's really easy.  Just remove the hoses from the BOV to the intake.  The front is super easy.  Sqeeze the clamps and wiggle the tube off.  The back, I just took the end off the intake.  Then, pop on the caps.  Your done. 

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t440/DJE624/Plugs001_zpse3ad6974.jpg)

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t440/DJE624/Plugs004_zps40c44d4a.jpg)

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t440/DJE624/004_zps6fa558cf.jpg)
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: 2010SHOtime on February 08, 2014, 01:49:18 PM
Did you have to clamp the rubber piece down or does it just stay on?
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: DJE624 on February 08, 2014, 06:42:32 PM
I didn't use clamps.  Might add them but the air should be pulling them down.  They were fairly snug.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SwampRat on February 08, 2014, 07:15:45 PM
Just Say yes to   ........   NOISE FLUFF   :WOOT: :WOOT:
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: 2010SHOtime on February 08, 2014, 08:46:01 PM
Will it still make PFFFT sound if the car is all stock?
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: REDSHOCGO on February 08, 2014, 09:08:07 PM
Went vta today but could not get back hose clamp off to take off hose from Bov so I left it on and disconnected from the return and put stopper on
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: DJE624 on February 08, 2014, 09:22:14 PM
Quote from: REDSHOCGO on February 08, 2014, 09:08:07 PM
Went vta today but could not get back hose clamp off to take off hose from Bov so I left it on and disconnected from the return and put stopper on
That's what I did. Hoping my mechanic will have something to get the back hose off the BOV.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: REDSHOCGO on February 08, 2014, 09:25:30 PM
Lol great to hear I wasn't the only one....I gave up after 30 mins of pondering
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: geswek on February 08, 2014, 09:31:57 PM
Just take the turbo pipe off, it's quick and easy. I used the clamps off the hose to secure the caps.

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Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SwampRat on February 08, 2014, 09:34:09 PM
Quote from: 2010SHOtime on February 08, 2014, 08:46:01 PM
Will it still make PFFFT sound if the car is all stock?

         Yup !  :WOOT: :WOOT:
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: REDSHOCGO on February 08, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
Will this negatively affect reliability of the turbos?
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SwampRat on February 08, 2014, 10:39:25 PM
Quote from: REDSHOCGO on February 08, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
Will this negatively affect reliability of the turbos?
NO
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: 2010SHOtime on February 08, 2014, 10:45:41 PM
Quote from: REDSHOCGO on February 08, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
Will this negatively affect reliability of the turbos?

Got it done and absolutely love it!! Woot woot indeed!!
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: futat2 on February 08, 2014, 10:46:18 PM
Quote from: REDSHOCGO on February 08, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
Will this negatively affect reliability of the turbos?

The only reason they don't VTA from the factory, is to keep the EPA basterds happy. So if you VTA you must hug a tree once a week to make up for it.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: 2010SHOtime on February 08, 2014, 10:47:33 PM
Lol sorry quoted the wrong person.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: pejohnson on February 15, 2014, 11:52:53 AM
Started this mod today and have a few questions.  What do you do with the hose that you disconnect?  Does it just hang there?  Do you remove it completely?  Will this suck elements into your engine?  Do you need to install an air filter? 
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: crash712us on February 15, 2014, 01:51:52 PM
you have to remove and cap off.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: pejohnson on February 15, 2014, 02:22:54 PM
Quote from: crash712us on February 15, 2014, 01:51:52 PM
you have to remove and cap off.

Not sure what you mean....  I understand where to cap.  I'm wondering about the other side.  Did you leave the hose?  Remove it?  Do you need a breather or filter to keep elements from getting into the engine? 
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: Josephm on February 15, 2014, 02:30:28 PM
It releases air, not intakes air. Its pressure released, so i am not sure how it would intake any dirty air

I believe the cap is for the intake side, Please correct me if i am wrong. and the blow off valve just release the pressure into the air.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: REDSHOCGO on February 15, 2014, 02:33:12 PM
Remove the hose and cap off the recirculation area the side of the tube not connected to the blow off valve. That is the area that sucks the blow off valve does not suck elements in but rather releases it appears that's my understanding
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: 281Thunder on February 16, 2014, 03:00:10 PM
There's no adverse affects in doing this? I seem to remember from my Subaru days that those cars don't like getting away from the recirc BOV's...messes with how the car runs.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: crash712us on February 16, 2014, 05:36:11 PM

Quote from: 281Thunder on February 16, 2014, 03:00:10 PM
There's no adverse affects in doing this? I seem to remember from my Subaru days that those cars don't like getting away from the recirc BOV's...messes with how the car runs.
Maybe so, but those are MAS base tuned cars. However out cars our MAP based speed density tuned.


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Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: Snacks15 on February 16, 2014, 06:06:44 PM
Quote from: REDSHOCGO on February 08, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
Will this negatively affect reliability of the turbos?
theres no negative impact to the car though right..im thinking about doing this
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: crash712us on February 16, 2014, 06:29:56 PM
Quote from: Snacks15 on February 16, 2014, 06:06:44 PM
Quote from: REDSHOCGO on February 08, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
Will this negatively affect reliability of the turbos?
theres no negative impact to the car though right..im thinking about doing this

none.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: panther427 on February 16, 2014, 08:55:31 PM
Did my front blow off today got to get another hose clamp to finish the back one
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: Snacks15 on February 16, 2014, 10:06:34 PM
Quote from: DJE624 on February 07, 2014, 09:00:07 PM
It's really easy.  Just remove the hoses from the BOV to the intake.  The front is super easy.  Sqeeze the clamps and wiggle the tube off.  The back, I just took the end off the intake.  Then, pop on the caps.  Your done. 

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t440/DJE624/Plugs001_zpse3ad6974.jpg)

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t440/DJE624/Plugs004_zps40c44d4a.jpg)

(http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t440/DJE624/004_zps6fa558cf.jpg)
sounds like a 20 min job lol
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: REDSHOCGO on February 17, 2014, 10:35:25 AM
It's a real pita to remove the back hose off of the bov valve
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: panther427 on February 17, 2014, 02:04:39 PM
Ya the rear is a pain.. I unhooked the front BOV sensor and rubber connection so i could rotate the pipe and get better access to the rear clamp that is on the BOV.. if you only want a little noise fluff just cap the front BOV if you want more noise do both front and back..


Also these rubber chair caps do work but i would be much happier if we can find a proper high temp cap.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: panther427 on February 19, 2014, 03:34:41 PM
What cap does the hotpipe kit have
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: BiGMaC on February 19, 2014, 03:58:40 PM
Quote from: panther427 on February 19, 2014, 03:34:41 PM
What cap does the hotpipe kit have
I assume you mean the caps for the nipples on the turbo piping (the ones that allow recirc instead of VTA).  Hope I got your question right.

Here's the pics of the kit: http://shop.ecoboostpowerparts.com/Ford-Flex-SHO-Lincoln-MKT-MKS-Hot-Pipes-EB-HotPipes.htm (http://shop.ecoboostpowerparts.com/Ford-Flex-SHO-Lincoln-MKT-MKS-Hot-Pipes-EB-HotPipes.htm)

There are no caps I know of as part of the kit (I have a coated stock mounting version ordered)... The BoV tubing comes off the mounted BoV itself for the 2 stock BoVs or is straight VTA with the single TIAL BoV.  I never discussed caps with Mike... I also own the TIAL version currently and plan to sell it after I install and test the new ones... I personally just wanted a little quieter turbo blow off.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: crash712us on February 19, 2014, 05:08:24 PM
The recirc plumbing is not a part of the hot pipe kit.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SwampRat on February 19, 2014, 07:09:18 PM
Quote from: BiGMaC on February 19, 2014, 03:58:40 PM
Quote from: panther427 on February 19, 2014, 03:34:41 PM
What cap does the hotpipe kit have
I assume you mean the caps for the nipples on the turbo piping (the ones that allow recirc instead of VTA).  Hope I got your question right.

Here's the pics of the kit: http://shop.ecoboostpowerparts.com/Ford-Flex-SHO-Lincoln-MKT-MKS-Hot-Pipes-EB-HotPipes.htm (http://shop.ecoboostpowerparts.com/Ford-Flex-SHO-Lincoln-MKT-MKS-Hot-Pipes-EB-HotPipes.htm)

There are no caps I know of as part of the kit (I have a coated stock mounting version ordered)... The BoV tubing comes off the mounted BoV itself for the 2 stock BoVs or is straight VTA with the single TIAL BoV.  I never discussed caps with Mike... I also own the TIAL version currently and plan to sell it after I install and test the new ones... I personally just wanted a little quieter turbo blow off.

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Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SHOmanMike84 on February 19, 2014, 07:56:11 PM
Here are some high temp silicon caps that will work. 4DR found these a while ago, I can confirm they're a perfect fit.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#92805k28/=qrnoos (http://www.mcmaster.com/#92805k28/=qrnoos)
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: panther427 on February 19, 2014, 08:00:56 PM
Sorry im on my phone writing this. So this is the topic on making the bov vent to atmosp. Right now our solution is to buy the chair leg caps which will work for sometime. But i worry about long term reliability of the rubber. The heat cycles could easily damage that rhbber over time. So i am using the chair leg caps currently. And have continued looking for a better solution. Well tlit dawned on me that if you buy the hot pipes aka intercooler piping you would have to cap off the same holes in the intake tubes as you would to make the stock bov vta.. so that hot pipe must come with a good quality cap for the stock intake rubes.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: BiGMaC on February 19, 2014, 08:07:23 PM
Quote from: panther427 on February 19, 2014, 08:00:56 PM
Right now our solution is to buy the chair leg caps which will work for sometime. But i worry about long term reliability of the rubber. The heat cycles could easily damage that rhbber over time. So i am using the chair leg caps currently.  Well, til it dawned on me that if you buy the hot pipes you would have to cap off the same holes in the intake tubes as you would to make the stock bov vta.. so that hot pipe must come with a good quality cap for the stock intake rubes.

Unfortunately they don't come with caps... here's the best solution i've seen courtesy 4DR and passed on by SHOmanMike84:

Quote from: SHOmanMike84 on February 19, 2014, 07:56:11 PM
Here are some high temp silicon caps that will work. 4DR found these a while ago, I can confirm they're a perfect fit.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#92805k28/=qrnoos (http://www.mcmaster.com/#92805k28/=qrnoos)
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SwampRat on February 19, 2014, 08:09:17 PM
Quote from: panther427 on February 19, 2014, 08:00:56 PM
Sorry im on my phone writing this. So this is the topic on making the bov vent to atmosp. Right now our solution is to buy the chair leg caps which will work for sometime. But i worry about long term reliability of the rubber. The heat cycles could easily damage that rhbber over time. So i am using the chair leg caps currently. And have continued looking for a better solution. Well tlit dawned on me that if you buy the hot pipes aka intercooler piping you would have to cap off the same holes in the intake tubes as you would to make the stock bov vta.. so that hot pipe must come with a good quality cap for the stock intake rubes.
Quote from: SHOmanMike84 on February 19, 2014, 07:56:11 PM
Here are some high temp silicon caps that will work. 4DR found these a while ago, I can confirm they're a perfect fit.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#92805k28/=qrnoos (http://www.mcmaster.com/#92805k28/=qrnoos)


4DR's HotPipe require no capping because they are not plumbed for blow off .
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: panther427 on February 19, 2014, 08:15:12 PM
So what you have to leave the factory bov hooked up to the rubber tube to the intake plumbing?  This remark was based in using the tial bov
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: BiGMaC on February 19, 2014, 08:28:53 PM
Quote from: panther427 on February 19, 2014, 08:15:12 PM
So what you have to leave the factory bov hooked up to the rubber tube to the intake plumbing?  This remark was based in using the tial bov

If you are talking about the factory recirc BoV what to do with the tubing on the 2 BoVs is your choice... This is also true on the EPP marketed (4DR) hPs with factory flanges.  If you buy the Hotpipes with the YIAL BoV what SW says is right on.  However the intake side still has the nipples where the other end of the tubing went... those you want to cap to keep unfiltered air out of your engine and turbos.

Pics and easy instructions from DJE are here:http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=1935.msg27769#msg27769 (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=1935.msg27769#msg27769)

What you do with the hoses attached to the factory BoVs?  ...your choice! ...delete or leave might make a difference in sound that's all.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: panther427 on February 19, 2014, 08:55:51 PM
Lol well thus has went way past my original purpose. I now see shomanmike has posted a solution that i was after. A quality silicone cap for the holes on the intake plumbing when you make the factory setup vta
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: BiGMaC on February 19, 2014, 10:04:46 PM
 :beer2:
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: glock-coma on February 19, 2014, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: SHOmanMike84 on February 19, 2014, 07:56:11 PM
Here are some high temp silicon caps that will work. 4DR found these a while ago, I can confirm they're a perfect fit.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#92805k28/=qrnoos (http://www.mcmaster.com/#92805k28/=qrnoos)


I'll be by McMaster tomorrow afternoon to pick up 2 packs of caps. I'm keeping 4, so I'll have 6 extra.
Anyone who wants 2 send me a PM and I'll mail them out on Saturday.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: glock-coma on February 19, 2014, 11:12:26 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on February 19, 2014, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: SHOmanMike84 on February 19, 2014, 07:56:11 PM
Here are some high temp silicon caps that will work. 4DR found these a while ago, I can confirm they're a perfect fit.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#92805k28/=qrnoos (http://www.mcmaster.com/#92805k28/=qrnoos)


I'll be by McMaster tomorrow afternoon to pick up 2 packs of caps. I'm keeping 4, so I'll have 6 extra.
Anyone who wants 2 send me a PM and I'll mail them out on Saturday.


1 pair of caps gone.  2 available
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: mjhpadi on February 19, 2014, 11:30:05 PM
And doing this does exactly what? :confused:
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: DJE624 on February 19, 2014, 11:54:23 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on February 19, 2014, 11:12:26 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on February 19, 2014, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: SHOmanMike84 on February 19, 2014, 07:56:11 PM
Here are some high temp silicon caps that will work. 4DR found these a while ago, I can confirm they're a perfect fit.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#92805k28/=qrnoos (http://www.mcmaster.com/#92805k28/=qrnoos)


I'll be by McMaster tomorrow afternoon to pick up 2 packs of caps. I'm keeping 4, so I'll have 6 extra.
Anyone who wants 2 send me a PM and I'll mail them out on Saturday.


1 pair of caps gone.  2 available

Thanks! 

Quote from: mjhpadi on February 19, 2014, 11:30:05 PM
And doing this does exactly what? :confused:

All it does is make the blow off noise audible.  But it's cool.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: glock-coma on February 20, 2014, 07:20:42 AM
2 pairs of caps gone.  1 pair left.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: BiGMaC on February 20, 2014, 09:48:21 AM
Order in to McMaster-Carr direct... $5.25 for 5 caps... They'll tell you if they are in stock to ship when you access the site via the link in the previous posts.  Mine say shipping today...
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on February 20, 2014, 09:51:37 AM
I went ahead and used a K+N filter to cover the BOV. Fit like a glove.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: glock-coma on February 20, 2014, 10:29:27 AM
All extra caps gone.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: BiGMaC on February 20, 2014, 10:37:43 AM
Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on February 20, 2014, 09:51:37 AM
I went ahead and used a K+N filter to cover the BOV. Fit like a glove.

Nice option for those wanting a bit more tech or colorful appearance (filter red)
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on February 20, 2014, 10:44:01 AM
Quote from: BiGMaC on February 20, 2014, 10:37:43 AM
Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on February 20, 2014, 09:51:37 AM
I went ahead and used a K+N filter to cover the BOV. Fit like a glove.

Nice option for those wanting a bit more tech or colorful appearance (filter red)
Unfortunately bought two of these from Amazon and one of them is grey.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: BiGMaC on February 20, 2014, 11:02:23 AM
Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on February 20, 2014, 10:44:01 AM
Quote from: BiGMaC on February 20, 2014, 10:37:43 AM
Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on February 20, 2014, 09:51:37 AM
I went ahead and used a K+N filter to cover the BOV. Fit like a glove.

Nice option for those wanting a bit more tech or colorful appearance (filter red)
Unfortunately bought two of these from Amazon and one of them is grey.

Good info... Not unfortunate, Better yet... Options!
Got a link?
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on February 21, 2014, 06:45:32 AM
Here is the link to what I purchased and it works perfectly:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00029WXTA/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00029WXTA/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: Mikesb on February 21, 2014, 08:35:00 AM
I still don't quite understand how the Bo system is set up on our cars.

Do they have a factory bov that can be replaced with an after market on the will achieve desired results?

Going through all the post it looks like one by intake manifold and then that latest pic of that thing on opposite side of the front valve cover (that you put the filter on)

Title: BOV to VTA
Post by: ONLYA6 on February 21, 2014, 08:52:00 AM
Two electronic valves on the charge pipe from the rear turbo. Technically they should be called a "bypass" valve jf they are routing the air back into the intake. There really isn't any room for one on the charge pipe from the front turbo so I'm sure that is the reason for 2.  One closest to the rear turbo and one closer to the intercooler( and front turbo). Both vent back into the intake pipe. Since this car doesn't have a MAF sensor it doesn't matter what happens to the air from these valves.

There is no reason to put a filter on the ends of the factory valves or any. A blow off valve should have zero restriction and obviously does not need filtered. This is about as dumb as putting air filters on your exhaust tips. Think about it.

You have 2 options for change.

- Stock valves, vented to atmosphere. Capping off the intake pipe. Now you can call it a "blow off" valve.

- Ecoboost power parts hot (charge) pipes and an aftermarket mechanical blow off valve.

It would be nice to see someone make a direct replacement mechanical non plastic valves for the factory charge pipe. Would need to come up with some sort of a plug to go into the factory bypass valve harness to trick the car into thinking they are still there. I'm going to look into making something like this is LMS can't "turn off" the factory valves with the tune.


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Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on February 21, 2014, 09:09:22 AM
^^^With the amount of road salt and sand used around my parts, there is no way I would leave any opening to the air flow into my engine and therefore I introduced the filter. Especially since I have no means to confirm that the factory BOV does not introduce any vacuum.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SwampRat on February 21, 2014, 01:00:44 PM
Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on February 21, 2014, 09:09:22 AM
^^^With the amount of road salt and sand used around my parts, there is no way I would leave any opening to the air flow into my engine and therefore I introduced the filter. Especially since I have no means to confirm that the factory BOV does not introduce any vacuum.

Better safe than sorry and it wont hurt anything and probably LOOKS cool !
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: Josephm on February 21, 2014, 02:16:29 PM
The won't hurt anything is not confirmed as your restricting the air being released, meaning all the air is not being release the same as without a filter.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on February 21, 2014, 02:25:58 PM
Quote from: Josephm on February 21, 2014, 02:16:29 PM
The won't hurt anything is not confirmed as your restricting the air being released, meaning all the air is not being release the same as without a filter.
Without have the tools or formulas to calculate or measure it, I am not sure that the filter itself creates any more friction loss than the original setup that has a short section of tubing going into a t-shape convergence of air flows. One thing I am sure of is that I will not get any debris vacuumed through the BOV with a filter.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: DJE624 on February 24, 2014, 03:27:18 PM
Many thanks to Chuck for the red caps.  With the front cover, and the red battery terminal cover, it's just the right little splash of color to go with the Typhoon's filter. But the big deal was, it prodded me to get that back hose off the rear BOV.  Take the BOV off with the two bolts (I think it was 8mm-long), use a small screwdriver to spin the clamp around to where you can get a pair of pliers on it and ..... Presto!  It's off! 
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: crash712us on February 24, 2014, 09:34:51 PM
Yes thank you chuck! Received my caps today.


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Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: 20ecoboost10 on February 24, 2014, 11:52:02 PM
Anyone else have extra red caps I could purchase as McMaster will not sell to me me as I am Canadian, they will not even ship to my US address in Blaine Washington because they do sell to Canadian customers period !

They canceled my order
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SHOmanMike84 on February 25, 2014, 12:40:50 AM
Quote from: 20ecoboost10 on February 24, 2014, 11:52:02 PM
Anyone else have extra red caps I could purchase as McMaster will not sell to me me as I am Canadian, they will not even ship to my US address in Blaine Washington because they do sell to Canadian customers period !

They canceled my order

I still have a few left over.

I'm out of town for work, return the 5th, if you aren't in a hurry PM me and we can work something out.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: Josephm on February 25, 2014, 01:24:45 AM
I just got mine today as well so I have extras if anyone is interested
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: bpd1151 on February 25, 2014, 09:03:22 AM
I was asked recently, where I purchased my silicone end caps from, when upgrading to the new hard, hot pipes.

Well, here's the link:

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=330725834159

You can order any size diameter desired, but 25mm is what I got.

They come with clamps, & your choice of red, blue, or black.

Come two, per order.

I too, albeit temporarily, used some of the alternative options listed previously (discussed within this thread) but was concerned about longevity in the engine compartment.

The product I listed, resolved those concerns for me.

Hope it's of some help to those looking / needing such items.

Yes, I did check Samco Silicone hoses 1st, but they were nearly double in price, at only one piece per order.

Heck with that! :doh:

Carry on good people.

The "other" Mike :beer:

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Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: REDSHOCGO on February 25, 2014, 10:36:08 AM
My only concern is turbo spool. I've don't the conversion but doesn't the recirculation force air and keep the turbos spooling whereas now it has to gather only air from the outside
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: Kolk1 on February 25, 2014, 11:41:30 AM
I did this mod yesterday, and normal driving, I never hear it. If I try and act like my car is a manual and snap my foot off the gas, I can barley hear it. If I roll the window down, and turn the stereo off, its "ok".

I think it must be a comparison gap, when people say they can hear the turbo spool due to an intake on these cars, or how loud the stock BOVs are, I don't think you guys have owned a car with a bigger turbo. My last car was a 2010 Genesis Coupe turbo, that I did a big turbo on, bigger fuel system, and the works, and that turbo you hear spooling up over a loud stereo with the windows up, and the BOV could be heard for blocks away.

I think im just going to take my caps off, and return the car to stock. Since I didn't even hear the BOVs once on my 45 minute trip to work, I don't see the point.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: DJE624 on February 25, 2014, 01:27:39 PM
That's odd.  I hear mine blow off fine but then again, I don't use the radio and you do have to really listen for them.  Did you hear geswek's snow video?  I can also hear the turbos spool at about 1500-1800 with the Typhoon.  They sound a little raspy up front to me when they spool.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: DJE624 on February 25, 2014, 01:29:19 PM
Quote from: REDSHOCGO on February 25, 2014, 10:36:08 AM
My only concern is turbo spool. I've don't the conversion but doesn't the recirculation force air and keep the turbos spooling whereas now it has to gather only air from the outside

When the turbos are spooling, they start sucking through the intake.  Blow off is when they are "unspooling".
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: Kolk1 on February 25, 2014, 03:11:58 PM
Quote from: DJE624 on February 25, 2014, 01:27:39 PM
That's odd.  I hear mine blow off fine but then again, I don't use the radio and you do have to really listen for them.  Did you hear geswek's snow video?  I can also hear the turbos spool at about 1500-1800 with the Typhoon.  They sound a little raspy up front to me when they spool.

Im not saying I cant hear it, but to me its not noticeable. If I snap my foot off the gas, and have the radio off, I can hear it, but that's not normal driving. Maybe ill notice it more when I have the windows down, but even then, I do audio systems for a living, and love music and sound quality, and windows down, kills sound quality. 
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on February 25, 2014, 03:15:32 PM
I really only notice it when the windows are down, which is not often in the winter.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: REDSHOCGO on February 25, 2014, 06:59:36 PM
Mine is quite audible however I have the typhoon system as well
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: 20ecoboost10 on March 08, 2014, 11:44:27 AM
Quote from: Josephm on February 25, 2014, 01:24:45 AM
I just got mine today as well so I have extras if anyone is interested
I got the BOV caps yesterday

Thanks again
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: southtxSHO on May 11, 2014, 10:18:35 PM
Ok so the pics of the how to are  gone . Any links where I can find how to do this VTA ?

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Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: BiGMaC on May 11, 2014, 11:33:11 PM
Quote from: southtxSHO on May 11, 2014, 10:18:35 PM
Ok so the pics of the how to are  gone . Any links where I can find how to do this VTA ?

Just remove the hose that goes from each BoV to the CAC (turbo intake tube)... Be sure to cap the nipples left on the CAC.... Hi temp is the only requirement for the caps... I used silicon... others have had great luck with chair leg caps etc.

Really it's that easy... the rear one is hard to reach, but it's basically 4 hose clamps removed and 2 nipples capped. There are some pics in my hotpipe install thread that may help.  It's here: http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,2248.msg32460.html#msg32460 (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,2248.msg32460.html#msg32460)

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: southtxSHO on May 11, 2014, 11:59:05 PM
Quote from: BiGMaC on May 11, 2014, 11:33:11 PM
Quote from: southtxSHO on May 11, 2014, 10:18:35 PM
Ok so the pics of the how to are  gone . Any links where I can find how to do this VTA ?

Just remove the hose that goes from each BoV to the CAC (turbo intake tube)... Be sure to cap the nipples left on the CAC.... Hi temp is the only requirement for the caps... I used silicon... others have had great luck with chair leg caps etc.

Really it's that easy... the rear one is hard to reach, but it's basically 4 hose clamps removed and 2 nipples capped. There are some pics in my hotpipe install thread that may help.  It's here: http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,2248.msg32460.html#msg32460 (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,2248.msg32460.html#msg32460)

Hope this helps.

Thanks BMC , looks pretty easy .

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Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: 2Canches on May 12, 2014, 01:26:20 AM
Did this on my 2012 f150 http://youtu.be/UNDasyYArxU








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Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: Joleat on May 20, 2014, 11:20:05 AM
I had VTA on my list prior to a tune, but after installing the tune, I can easily hear the blow off even with the valves in their stock recirculating setup. I do not have a modified air box, so I'm surprised that I can hear it after reading some of the comments in this thread. The sound is present with the daily driver tune (15psi) and the beast mode tune (18psi). Maybe I should VTA just for comparison's sake. It's pretty loud already...
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: panther427 on May 20, 2014, 11:21:52 AM
I'm considering going back to stock for a bit
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: MDesign Performance on May 20, 2014, 12:11:32 PM
With my intake system my VTA is pretty noticeable to the point where other drivers notice, the tune made it much more effortless to replicate at my disposal.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: Zorin on September 16, 2014, 11:39:38 AM
Just did this little mod on my 2011 PP, sounds great and very noticeable by other drivers, especially other drivers with turbos that have a BOV that VTA.  I used the rubber chair ends from Lowes, only 2 bucks and 5 mins to install.  This was way cheaper then spending the 200+ bucks for a BOV that I spent on my O6 Subaru STi.

THanks,
Z
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: ZSHO on September 16, 2014, 02:17:28 PM
Welcome aboard Zorin,nice to be able to do a cheap mod for 2.00 and good luck with the ride.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: 281Thunder on September 16, 2014, 07:48:46 PM
I've done this as well in the past few weeks. Capped them with the black chair leg caps...$2 at Lowes. Pulled the hose completely from the front one...for the back one, just pulled the intake side since the BOV side is hard to reach, and left the hose there.

I could hear it before with the Typhoon intake, but it's even more noticeable now, especially at lighter throttle. It's slightly louder, and maybe a little more raspy/higher pitched.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: BiGMaC on September 16, 2014, 07:56:11 PM
Quote from: Spartn27 on May 20, 2014, 12:11:32 PM
With my intake system my VTA is pretty noticeable to the point where other drivers notice, the tune made it much more effortless to replicate at my disposal.
Same here... Did mine due to hotpipes. Used to go pfffft.... Now goes PFFFFT!
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: peppelepugh on September 18, 2014, 08:10:31 AM
Just finished my BOV to VTA last night. Took about 45min due to lack of the right tool to get the hose off the back BOV. BUT, with much fiddling, swearing, and 1 cut knuckle.... my car goes PPPPFFFFFFTTTTTTTT!!!!!! just waiting to see how bad my gas mileage is because every time it goes, i giggle and smile like a 2 year old....
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: glock-coma on September 18, 2014, 08:20:54 AM
That sound is made for parking garages.


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Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: ZSHO on September 18, 2014, 09:30:21 AM
Quote from: peppelepugh on September 18, 2014, 08:10:31 AM
Just finished my BOV to VTA last night. Took about 45min due to lack of the right tool to get the hose off the back BOV. BUT, with much fiddling, swearing, and 1 cut knuckle.... my car goes PPPPFFFFFFTTTTTTTT!!!!!! just waiting to see how bad my gas mileage is because every time it goes, i giggle and smile like a 2 year old....
The pita part is putting back that rear hose,next time just remove one section and cap off the port,easier that way if you need to put it back down the road for dealer service,good luck.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: peppelepugh on September 18, 2014, 10:55:30 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on September 18, 2014, 09:30:21 AM
Quote from: peppelepugh on September 18, 2014, 08:10:31 AM
Just finished my BOV to VTA last night. Took about 45min due to lack of the right tool to get the hose off the back BOV. BUT, with much fiddling, swearing, and 1 cut knuckle.... my car goes PPPPFFFFFFTTTTTTTT!!!!!! just waiting to see how bad my gas mileage is because every time it goes, i giggle and smile like a 2 year old....
The pita part is putting back that rear hose,next time just remove one section and cap off the port,easier that way if you need to put it back down the road for dealer service,good luck.


*SHOOTING SELF IN FOOT* thankfully i just had my 50k checkup last week and won't need to go back for a while, knock on wood...
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: BiGMaC on September 18, 2014, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: peppelepugh on September 18, 2014, 10:55:30 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on September 18, 2014, 09:30:21 AM
Quote from: peppelepugh on September 18, 2014, 08:10:31 AM
Just finished my BOV to VTA last night. Took about 45min due to lack of the right tool to get the hose off the back BOV. BUT, with much fiddling, swearing, and 1 cut knuckle.... my car goes PPPPFFFFFFTTTTTTTT!!!!!! just waiting to see how bad my gas mileage is because every time it goes, i giggle and smile like a 2 year old....
The pita part is putting back that rear hose,next time just remove one section and cap off the port,easier that way if you need to put it back down the road for dealer service,good luck.


*SHOOTING SELF IN FOOT* thankfully i just had my 50k checkup last week and won't need to go back for a while, knock on wood...
While anything could happen... I had a valve cover gasket leak and had the dealer replace it with my hotpipes in place.... No hose to reconnect they had to R&R the charge system to do it.  The dealer got it back perfectly and called it "air in - air out" change with no problem.... Again, anything could happen
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: peppelepugh on September 18, 2014, 11:36:01 AM
Quick question going along with the VTA mod. This is my first turbo vehicle i've owned. Should I be concerned with any oil in the pipe where the BOVs are?
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: glock-coma on September 18, 2014, 01:11:45 PM
It depends on how much. There will be some, just because of the nature of the pcv system. The hose on the front valve cover recirculates oil vapors  back into the intake system.


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Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: peppelepugh on September 18, 2014, 01:36:00 PM
yeah, figuring car is at 50k miles, it wasn't POURING out or anything crazy. but i was able to wipe up a bit on my finger.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: Silkysmooth02 on September 18, 2014, 06:31:21 PM
My son just took delivery of his 2010 pearl white non PP SHO today.  We came straight home just to vent the BOV to atmosphere, lol.  Man it sounds so much better than stock.  tunes coming very soon.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: ZSHO on September 18, 2014, 06:54:48 PM
Thats a nice feeling father&son working together and getting to enjoy the car.cause i am in the same position,but i usually try to drive slow when together with him,good luck and keep the bond&mods going,Silkysmooth02.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: 281Thunder on September 18, 2014, 07:33:09 PM
Best thing I've found to handle this stock pesky squeeze clamps is a good set of vice grips. Adjust them right, squeeze them on the clamps, then you can pull the hose off without having to hold the clamp.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: SHOdded on September 18, 2014, 07:34:41 PM
Vice grips can be real lifesavers working around cars :thumb:
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: Airbornemaikai on September 19, 2014, 08:28:09 PM
I bought some cobalt vice grips specifically for this, damn things aren't even a year old but wont remain clamped
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: glock-coma on September 19, 2014, 08:32:15 PM
Quote from: Airbornemaikai on September 19, 2014, 08:28:09 PM
I bought some cobalt vice grips specifically for this, damn things aren't even a year old but wont remain clamped
Lowes will take back damn near anything if its their brand.
I have a mini screwdriver that I use everyday, I must have exchanged it 10 times already.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: ZSHO on September 19, 2014, 10:28:52 PM
A while ago when i did it had pretty good luck with a small stuby flat head screw driver,while holding the hose at the same time would insert the flat head in the gap of the clamp and push it back,at the same time would twist and pull the hose off gently&slowly remove the hose cause the BOV is fragile,worked for me.cause originally the clamp was facing against the firewall for some reason so you dont remove it i guess from the factory.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: panther427 on September 19, 2014, 10:51:28 PM
They have a special tool for this.
http://m.sears.com/craftsman-cable-operated-hose-clamp-pliers/p-00947390000P?sid=IDx01192011x000001&kpid=00947390000&kispla=00947390000P (http://m.sears.com/craftsman-cable-operated-hose-clamp-pliers/p-00947390000P?sid=IDx01192011x000001&kpid=00947390000&kispla=00947390000P)
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: 2Canches on April 12, 2015, 04:56:44 AM
http://youtu.be/UOUQ7eqIgIY 💥


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Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: polskifacet on April 29, 2015, 12:05:24 PM
This absolutely doesn't work on a 2013 SHO. The bovs bleed out all the pressure during acceleration for some reason so you can't build boost. SIGH. Would have been sweet if it did work.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: Wilson on April 29, 2015, 12:30:59 PM
Someone lied to you brother :)

Wilson

Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: polskifacet on April 29, 2015, 12:41:08 PM
Sorry dudes, thanks for the quick response. I forgot to connect the little vacuum tube since I removed the whole intake pipe to get to the rear bov.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: southtxSHO on May 16, 2015, 08:00:33 PM
Do I have to do both sides to VTA ? Or will one side do ?
Title: BOV to VTA
Post by: glock-coma on May 16, 2015, 08:58:58 PM
One side will do, but it won't be as loud. I had just the front one vta and I could barely hear it.
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: southtxSHO on May 16, 2015, 09:16:39 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on May 16, 2015, 08:58:58 PM
One side will do, but it won't be as loud. I had just the front one vta and I could barely hear it.
Ok thanks ... will do it later , lent my toolbox to bother -in -law
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Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: Boggus on August 20, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
I wonder if you installed a cap on the bov with a smaller opening would it change the sound?
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: glock-coma on August 20, 2015, 05:15:49 PM

Quote from: Boggus on August 20, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
I wonder if you installed a cap on the bov with a smaller opening would it change the sound?
I've seen videos with people putting duck calls on the BOV. It's pretty funny
Title: Re: BOV to VTA
Post by: BiGMaC on August 20, 2015, 05:25:21 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on August 20, 2015, 05:15:49 PM

Quote from: Boggus on August 20, 2015, 04:58:58 PM
I wonder if you installed a cap on the bov with a smaller opening would it change the sound?
I've seen videos with people putting duck calls on the BOV. It's pretty funny
Yep... Plays music for the hula dancer bobble head on their dashboards just below the fringe.
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