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Title: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: Shonuff1140 on January 20, 2014, 02:59:23 AM
Was interested in what consistent 0-60 times the forum is getting on the street that I could look forward to once the warranty runs out on my ride. Appreciate any info in advance.
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: BiGMaC on January 20, 2014, 03:57:29 AM
Why wait to find out the definitive answer?
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: crash712us on January 20, 2014, 10:27:08 AM
I would guesstimate near 4 second or even below. With my setup minus down pipes and coil overs but + meth I have seen 3.8 and lower. Haven't tested with down pipes or with coil overs or even with newly updated tune for that matter.
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: steve142857 on January 20, 2014, 01:43:43 PM
Quote from: chad1140 on January 20, 2014, 02:59:23 AM
Was interested in what consistent 0-60 times the forum is getting on the street that I could look forward to once the warranty runs out on my ride. Appreciate any info in advance.
Based on 1/4 slips, both my 2010 and 2013 ran in the 3.6's when I did runs in the 12.0-12.1 seconds. In the street, with no Wind and with warmer weather, it still should be Under 4 seconds with decent tires when brake/boosting for launches.
I have a few videos on YouTube Under steve142857 if you are interested.
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: DJE624 on January 20, 2014, 06:37:49 PM
If you are talking about 0-60 MPH, with the 4+ you should be looking at just under 5 seconds.  I did a 4.9 launching at 2K measured with Torque Pro.
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: steve142857 on January 20, 2014, 07:32:31 PM
I think they are a bit faster than that Dave. Not sure how accurate Torquepro is... I got about 5.1sec with only stage 4+ on winter tires with no brake/boost launch and TC on... And that was in the Lincoln MKT that weights 5,200lbs with me in it!
But cool weather helps too if you can get the grip.
The 1/4 in 13.3 for that big sleeper.
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: DJE624 on January 20, 2014, 07:48:06 PM
Yeah, you could be right about that Steve.  I've wondered about Torque.  I had a 13.006 1/4 time.  So my 0-60 MPH might be a little deeper into the 4's. 
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: TSS on January 20, 2014, 08:50:24 PM
4.3 With LMS  and Typhoon (debate still out on whether that helps or hinders performance)...launching at 1800 rpm....Lincoln MKS.
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: BiGMaC on January 20, 2014, 08:51:09 PM
Obviously I'm still in process of getting performance mods done. and with the hardware development we're doing it will be slowed more so dynos can be done with changes... but

I had a long phone discussion with Dan at LMS the other day.  He believes with DPs, and CAI the current version 4+ would put me solidly in the 4.3-4.6 range for 0-60. and maybe just a tad better. I won't be able to find out until March or so.

Ford advertised 5.1 second 0-60 for the '13 SHO OEM
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: 68_GT on January 20, 2014, 08:57:42 PM
and for those of us with the performance package even faster lol :)
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: DJE624 on January 20, 2014, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: TSS on January 20, 2014, 08:50:24 PM
4.3 With LMS  and Typhoon (debate still out on whether that helps or hinders performance)...launching at 1800 rpm....Lincoln MKS.

What did you measure that with?
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: DJE624 on January 20, 2014, 09:25:58 PM
Quote from: 68_GT on January 20, 2014, 08:57:42 PM
and for those of us with the performance package even faster lol :)

You gonna start that again?   :clown:
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: 68_GT on January 20, 2014, 09:38:29 PM
start what ? lol just saying :)
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: DJE624 on January 20, 2014, 09:56:37 PM
Launch RPMs X speed, divided by boost, X the square root of final drive = 1/4 mile time divided by top end speed.
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: steve142857 on January 21, 2014, 10:47:11 AM
Quote from: DJE624 on January 20, 2014, 09:56:37 PM
Launch RPMs X speed, divided by boost, X the square root of final drive = 1/4 mile time divided by top end speed.
It works for me, but at the end it is divided by trap speed, not top speed! lol
But seriously, you can estimate your 0-60 with our cars being AWD with the 1/4 ET. Roughly:
0-60 in:
12 sec: 3.6-3.7 sec
13 sec: 4.5-4.6 sec.
14 sec: 5.3-5.4 sec.
15 sec: 6.7-6.8 sec.
I had found a link for an Excel spreadsheet that you could put your 60', 330' and 1/8 times and it would give you your 0-60mph that you could validate with the trap speed at 1/8 miles... It worked it was impressive... very accurate!
I will try to find it and put the link soon:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-tech-performance/2158265-mathematically-based-0-60-mph-calculator.html (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-tech-performance/2158265-mathematically-based-0-60-mph-calculator.html)
Just click on the link and it will bring you there... Very fun to play with. I had my best of 3.6x sec. when I had my 12.0-12.1 runs. Numbers were for my 2013: 1.72, 5.02, 7.75 at 90+mph (going from memory here). Even if my 2013 PP launches faster, my 2010 was still able to manage a faster 0-60 (tuned more aggressively and didn'T have to shift into third to reach 60mph).
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: SRT82ECOBOOST on January 21, 2014, 10:57:47 AM
Quote from: 68_GT on January 20, 2014, 08:57:42 PM
and for those of us with the performance package even faster lol :)
Exactly!!!
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: steve142857 on January 21, 2014, 11:15:41 AM
Quote from: SRT82ECOBOOST on January 21, 2014, 10:57:47 AM
Quote from: 68_GT on January 20, 2014, 08:57:42 PM
and for those of us with the performance package even faster lol :)
Exactly!!!
Actually not exactly. It launches quicker with PP, but the non-PP has the advantage of not having to shift into third gear to reach 60 mph, so one cancels another... And the same to reach 100mph, at least when tuned, I could reach it in third gear with the non-PP, but requires 4th with PP. And finally, top speed is higher with non-PP...
So, the PP is actually only faster from 0-50mph!
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: TSS on January 21, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
Quote from: DJE624 on January 20, 2014, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: TSS on January 20, 2014, 08:50:24 PM
4.3 With LMS  and Typhoon (debate still out on whether that helps or hinders performance)...launching at 1800 rpm....Lincoln MKS.

What did you measure that with?

I have run it with an older G-Tech I have and also with the LMS MyCal.  I prefer the G-Tech for simplicity and being dummy proof.  Regardless, both are very very close. I have actually dipped into 4.27-4.29, but call it 4.3 to be safe.   With zero mods, I was at 5.18 to 60.

Also agree with the above - PP not faster to 60 because of that extra gear change.  Ford never claimed it was faster either as far as I know.
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: 68_GT on January 21, 2014, 12:09:06 PM
79* outside temp, left in "D" no brake boosting (didn't know how at this time), 3/4 tank of gas.

PP SHO
0-140.  and the 0-60 ???? What do you guys think it is ?
stock with 93 LMS tune. Shifts to 3rd I guess at 55mph ?

disclaimer...lifeted a tad at 120

2013 SHO Taurus with performance package 0-140. Tune only by Livernois Motorsports. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KUWZCQdRZk#ws)


Quote from: TSS on January 21, 2014, 12:03:05 PM

Also agree with the above - PP not faster to 60 because of that extra gear change.  Ford never claimed it was faster either as far as I know.

why wouldn't it be ?
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: DJE624 on January 21, 2014, 12:18:31 PM
I really need to make a video like that!  Just for fun of course. :clown:
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: steve142857 on January 21, 2014, 02:36:31 PM
Quote from: 68_GT on January 21, 2014, 12:09:06 PM
79* outside temp, left in "D" no brake boosting (didn't know how at this time), 3/4 tank of gas.

PP SHO
0-140.  and the 0-60 ???? What do you guys think it is ?
stock with 93 LMS tune. Shifts to 3rd I guess at 55mph ?

disclaimer...lifeted a tad at 120

2013 SHO Taurus with performance package 0-140. Tune only by Livernois Motorsports. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KUWZCQdRZk#ws)


Quote from: TSS on January 21, 2014, 12:03:05 PM

Also agree with the above - PP not faster to 60 because of that extra gear change.  Ford never claimed it was faster either as far as I know.

why wouldn't it be ?

Cool video, thanks for posting!
I'd say close to 5 sec for your 0-60mph
about 12 sec to reach 100mph and close to 20 sec to 125mph.

To be faster, you would need H&R springs, brake/boost at 2K, low fuel tank and colder weather... Like that, you should be low 4's to reach 60mph.

I have videos on YouTube but one with my 2010 non-PP with methanol doing 0-125 at the drag (on a 12.32 sec run, so a bit slower than my runs in the 12.0-12.1 range). 0-60: 3.9; 100mph: 9sec, 125mph: 14.2 sec.

2010 SHO with methanol doing 0-125 mph! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xq7JOy9e2A#)

Methanol really wakes that car up!
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: Tractorak on January 21, 2014, 08:20:46 PM
Used that fancy spreadsheet with the times off of my fastest slip (see signature) and my numbers are 0-60: 4.41 sec 0-60 dist: 235ft.
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: steve142857 on January 21, 2014, 11:11:10 PM
Quote from: Tractorak on January 21, 2014, 08:20:46 PM
Used that fancy spreadsheet with the times off of my fastest slip (see signature) and my numbers are 0-60: 4.41 sec 0-60 dist: 235ft.
It makes perfect sense. I tried that excel spreadsheet with many cars I have been running against at the strip and it is very accurate!
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on January 22, 2014, 01:17:55 AM
Stock + K&N Typhoon

13.70 @102.39

Spreadsheet says

0 - 60 time:   5.11   sec
0-60 dist:   265   feet
1/8 Speed:   80   MPH
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: Dxlnt1 on January 30, 2014, 03:28:21 AM
My heavy foot landed on the SHO. The first 2 pix are before LMS 4+ tune. The second is after. I will go back and use software from before run to make sure all,things are equal, but noticeable improvement. Again I ran out of real estate for the full 1/4 mile time so at least 1-2 seconds maybe?
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: DJE624 on January 30, 2014, 03:43:05 AM
Very nice.  With the Stage 4+ you should be hovering around 13 seconds depending on conditions.  The 106 is right there.
Title: Re: What 0-60 times are PP SHO's with DP's and 4+ tune getting?
Post by: Dxlnt1 on January 30, 2014, 04:08:11 AM
I think I could've gotten another couple mph and at least a couple seconds. Car was pulling hard but again a short run. Full tank of gas and maybe 100 lbs of cargo. My launch was from about 1500 rpm. The RT was intentional as I was checking surroundings.
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