Hello, everyone!
I purchased some H&R springs for the 13 SHO. I called a place to see how much they would be to install and they told me 300-400 dollars. That isn't including the alignment after. Usually, I don't mess with suspension because I don't like the headache, but for $400 I can handle the headache. My question is are there any specialty tools I need to get before I start this task? I have a shop, lift, etc, so that isn't an issue. Anything I should look out for when I'm doing this? I already purchased SP# bolts that the back needs to be aligned properly. Looking at the rear sheets that are posted in the sticky in this subtopic, back looks easy. I'm not sure about the front, as I haven't looked at it really.
Ford made the front suspension a lot easier to work on with the 2013 redesign. Pretty sure there is a note or two in the HOWTO section about that ... I think crash712us maybe?
Quote from: SHOdded on January 04, 2018, 05:37:31 PM
Ford made the front suspension a lot easier to work on with the 2013 redesign. Pretty sure there is a note or two in the HOWTO section about that ... I think crash712us maybe?
I looked through the "How-To" but didn't see anything for the front suspension. I have the FSM and looking at it, doesn't look difficult at all. I'll let you guys know after I put them in on how difficult I think it is. I'm not a professional Tech or anything, but I went to school to be a tech and decided it wasn't the career for me.
That's not a bad price number IMHO! The rear suspension was fairly easy and straight forward but found the front suspension to be more labor extensive and time consuming which took roughly five hours for the complete install including a four wheel alignment!
I would say a $400.00 price point would be a fair assessment for the complete install plus wheel alignment!
FYI -learned the hard way but give it a few hundred miles for the suspension to settle,break in period!
Best of luck! Z
Quote from: ZSHO on January 04, 2018, 07:17:08 PM
That's not a bad price number IMHO! The rear suspension was fairly easy and straight forward but found the front suspension to be more labor extensive and time consuming which took roughly five hours for the complete install including a four wheel alignment!
I would say a $400.00 price point would be a fair assessment for the complete install plus wheel alignment!
FYI -learned the hard way but give it a few hundred miles for the suspension to settle,break in period!
Best of luck! Z
Yea, he was quoting me $400 just to install, that isn't including the alignment. It would be closer to $500-$550 out the door. I feel comfortable doing it myself. Worst comes to worst, I mess it up and I pay someone to fix it, rofl. I'm pretty confident and the guy helping me is an ASE Master Tech. I'm sure we will be fine. I'm just lazy. The same guy that quoted me only charged me 100 bucks to replace my control arms and stabilizer end links. Wish I would have had the springs then and just had him do it all then. Guess he didn't like working on the SHO, lol.
Quote from: ClearwaterSHO on January 04, 2018, 07:59:02 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on January 04, 2018, 07:17:08 PM
That's not a bad price number IMHO! The rear suspension was fairly easy and straight forward but found the front suspension to be more labor extensive and time consuming which took roughly five hours for the complete install including a four wheel alignment!
I would say a $400.00 price point would be a fair assessment for the complete install plus wheel alignment!
FYI -learned the hard way but give it a few hundred miles for the suspension to settle,break in period!
Best of luck! Z
Yea, he was quoting me $400 just to install, that isn't including the alignment. It would be closer to $500-$550 out the door. I feel comfortable doing it myself. Worst comes to worst, I mess it up and I pay someone to fix it, rofl. I'm pretty confident and the guy helping me is an ASE Master Tech. I'm sure we will be fine. I'm just lazy. The same guy that quoted me only charged me 100 bucks to replace my control arms and stabilizer end links. Wish I would have had the springs then and just had him do it all then. Guess he didn't like working on the SHO, lol.
True! since the front suspension was already apart would find it easier the 2nd time around. Z :)
Took the car up there today with some printouts from my repair manual. He looked at the car and said, "Oh, that's not bad at all. $250 with alignment out the door." I said sold, sign me up for the next available slot. So the Boat gets her springs on Tuesday. Now, should I wait for them to settle before I hit the track? I see you guys say that they need to settle. Does that mean that they will get lower as time goes on? I'm mainly just wanting to make sure that AJPTurbo POWA gets to the ground.
Quote from: ClearwaterSHO on January 05, 2018, 12:05:18 PM
Took the car up there today with some printouts from my repair manual. He looked at the car and said, "Oh, that's not bad at all. $250 with alignment out the door." I said sold, sign me up for the next available slot. So the Boat gets her springs on Tuesday. Now, should I wait for them to settle before I hit the track? I see you guys say that they need to settle. Does that mean that they will get lower as time goes on? I'm mainly just wanting to make sure that AJPTurbo POWA gets to the ground.
The springs will settle, and the car will end up a bit lower after some miles are put on. The ride will get a bit better as well once they settle.
Agreed with derfdog ^^^ I would say for optimum performance give them some time to break/settle in period similar to having new brakes or tires installed!
In my case had new Struts/Shocks/Springs installed which later was told to give them a few hundred miles to adjust accordingly as mentioned above which ultimately landed me an overall PB-of 1.752 - 60' time! Z :drive:
The guy from the shop called me and said that he thinks the front will need camber bolts as well. I've read about the back, were there any issues with the front camber?
Quote from: ClearwaterSHO on January 09, 2018, 09:55:48 AM
The guy from the shop called me and said that he thinks the front will need camber bolts as well. I've read about the back, were there any issues with the front camber?
The front on my 13-PP DID NOT need camber bolts and only the rear!
Im hoping the price quote does not change as well!
Here's my very own thread below with alignment specs and all! Z
https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,8310.0.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,8310.0.html)
Quote from: ZSHO on January 09, 2018, 10:24:47 AM
Quote from: ClearwaterSHO on January 09, 2018, 09:55:48 AM
The guy from the shop called me and said that he thinks the front will need camber bolts as well. I've read about the back, were there any issues with the front camber?
The front on my 13-PP DID NOT need camber bolts and only the rear!
Im hoping the price quote does not change as well!
Here's my very own thread below with alignment specs and all! Z
https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,8310.0.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,8310.0.html)
I have read your post. I can't thank you enough Z. I really appreciate all of your help and advice. I told them that he shouldn't need it, so he was going to talk to his alignment guy. I know the person working on my car. He's an acquaintance of mine. I'll call him and let him know.
I'm hoping the alignment guy knows what he is doing!
What type of alignment machine? Hunter is one of the best IIRC! Best of luck and keep us updated! Z :)
Quote from: ZSHO on January 09, 2018, 10:49:25 AM
I'm hoping the alignment guy knows what he is doing!
What type of alignment machine? Hunter is one of the best IIRC! Best of luck and keep us updated! Z :)
Haha, I hope it's a Hunter. My brother works for Hunter.
Hunter Road Force or don't touch my car ;P
Quote from: ClearwaterSHO on January 09, 2018, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on January 09, 2018, 10:49:25 AM
I'm hoping the alignment guy knows what he is doing!
What type of alignment machine? Hunter is one of the best IIRC! Best of luck and keep us updated! Z :)
Haha, I hope it's a Hunter. My brother works for Hunter.
Sigh.... apparently he doesn't and even with the bolts he wasn't able to get the camber right in the back. He said that wasn't enough threads. Do you guys have any ideas?
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Quote from: ClearwaterSHO on January 09, 2018, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: ClearwaterSHO on January 09, 2018, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on January 09, 2018, 10:49:25 AM
I'm hoping the alignment guy knows what he is doing!
What type of alignment machine? Hunter is one of the best IIRC! Best of luck and keep us updated! Z :)
Haha, I hope it's a Hunter. My brother works for Hunter.
Sigh.... apparently he doesn't and even with the bolts he wasn't able to get the camber right in the back. He said that wasn't enough threads. Do you guys have any ideas?
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I think Adam(Polski) had a similar issue with his 13_NON_PP! Courtesy) of POLSKI hope this helps any!
Don't have access to the FSM @ the moment!
My alignment place wouldn't mess with the alignment camber bolts. I had to eye it and basically make them as positive as i could and it was in spec and they turned out to be super close to each other. There is no need to take off the axle nuts on the front. Check the bump stops, mine were fine, I cleaned and lubed them. To get the control arm bolts out in the front they are spined so beat with a hammer may need heat. I also bought thru sockets from Craftsman but they were short so I guess thru deep sockets are needed. The end link nuts are locking so I would recommend a couple new ones in case you have to heat one or two to get them off. The rears were a bigger pain in the ass as they are very tight. I had to spin the spring to a side that doesn't sit correctly in the spring seat to get them in and then spin them once they were in to hit the spring stop.
Pro tip:
Once done on a level surface loosen the strut bar and then retighten so there isn't any weird stress on the frame/body.
Feel free to reach out with any questions. The car is substantially lower. I need to buy higher sidewall tires for my winter steelies so keep that in mind. Test all the usual driveways so you don't jack anything under the car. I had to grind down some concrete on the entrance to my garage because the middle muffler was catching
:'( anyone have an idea where I can get a bumper and that chrome piece that goes around the grill.... had a mishap omw home from the shop.
:o
What happened! hopefully on one was hurt! Z
https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/auto-parts/2013/ford/taurus/sho-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/body-cat/bumper-and-components-front-scat (https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/auto-parts/2013/ford/taurus/sho-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/body-cat/bumper-and-components-front-scat)
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,body (https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,body)
Quote from: ZSHO on January 09, 2018, 07:48:32 PM
What happened! hopefully on one was hurt! Z
https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/auto-parts/2013/ford/taurus/sho-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/body-cat/bumper-and-components-front-scat
Guy in front of me started to go and right as I was starting to go he hit his brakes and I kissed his trailer hitch with my front bumper. It's not bad. Front plate mount took most of the hit. The bumper has a small dent behind the plate mount and the chrome trim piece is cracked. I would say I was going about 3 mph, so no one was hurt at all. I appreciate you asking though!
Get those types a fair share out here honestly. go, nogo, go, nogo. I have gotten to the point I do not take my eyes off them or touch the gas until I see them pulling away by almost a carlength.
Glad you are ok, plastic can be replaced easy enough.
If you have a chance feel free to post some pic's! TIA . Z :)
PICS!!
(https://i.imgur.com/YO5BwWwh.jpg)
Nice man! :thumb: enjoy the new ride!
Btw fixed the above pic for ya! :) Z
That chrome piece is like 500 bucks. Shop painted mine black.
Quote from: polskifacet on January 12, 2018, 09:38:05 AM
That chrome piece is like 500 bucks. Shop painted mine black.
$500!! YIKES! I managed to push small dent in the bumper out. It's good to go. I will let that chrome piece stay cracked if it's $500. It's barely noticeable unless you stick your face up to it.
Quote from: ZSHO on January 12, 2018, 09:27:15 AM
Nice man! :thumb: enjoy the new ride!
Btw fixed the above pic for ya! :) Z
Thanks Z! You're the man. I'm thinking ole girl needs some new shoes!