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SBS 2016 Taurus SHO Build Thread - LOCKED

Started by StealBlueSho, April 23, 2019, 08:59:19 AM

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SHOdded

#120
I do not know the independent lab Amsoil is using in their claims.  But Oil Analyzers or Polaris are the likely candidates. AFAIK, Oil Analyzers is a division of Amsoil, but I don't see much mention of this in the literature.
https://allsynoil.com/oil_analysis.html
https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/racing/dominator-5w-20-racing-oil/
"Oil Analyzers Inc®. (715-395-0222) is a division of AMSOIL that provides cost-effective, quality oil analysis services"

Have not seen any mention of fuel not emulsifying into the oil.  The focus has been on neutralizing the effect of fuel on oil through stronger base stocks and proper additive chemistry.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

SM105K

Quote from: SHOdded on May 03, 2019, 06:01:26 PM
I do not know the independent lab Amsoil is using in their claims.  But Oil Analyzers or Polaris are the likely candidates. AFAIK, Oil Analyzers is a division of Amsoil, but I don't see much mention of this in the literature.
https://allsynoil.com/oil_analysis.html
https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/racing/dominator-5w-20-racing-oil/
"Oil Analyzers Inc®. (715-395-0222) is a division of AMSOIL that provides cost-effective, quality oil analysis services"

Have not seen any mention of fuel not emulsifying into the oil.  The focus has been on neutralizing the effect of fuel on oil through stronger base stocks and proper additive chemistry.

That is my problem.  I cant find the "Independent Tester".  I will have a huge problem with it if it is Oil Analyzers.  That would be stacking the deck and being bias. 

If they haven't figured out the emulsification issue, then they cannot claim 100% to prevent LPSI.   
"M" 2013 SHO PP | AJPTurbo E30 Tune | FS HPFP | Stock IC with Ice Water DIY Sprayer | PPE Downpipes | Custom Magnaflow Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete | Derale Upgraded Trans Cooler | Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts| EPP Noisemaker Eliminator | MSD Coil Over Plugs | SP-542's | UPR Dual Valve Catch Can | K&N Drop In | Power Stop Slotted and Drilled Rotors with Stock PP Pads | H&R Springs  | AVS Flush Deflector | 802SHO Custom Splitter | Duraflex Chin Spoiler | Curva Concept C7's | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber | 411 HP and 546 TQ |

"The Fukus" 2013 Focus ST | Boomba BOV | FSWerks Short Shifter | Power Stop Brakes | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber |

18SHO

Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 03, 2019, 05:37:55 PM
All cleaned up and ready for the track!!!

Hell yea man , can't wait to see the times ! I see the tires are finally on ! Looking good
2018 SHO PP factory stock for now
AJPTURBO E30 tune stock plugs .028 gap
5.25.19 12.53 @ 112.96 1.85 60FT 1850 DA 71 F
Best trap 113.61

ZSHO

#123
AFAIK New Turbos may require roughly around 800 miles on them (break in period) before the turbo seals seat properly IIRC! Might want to take it easy for a while! Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

StealBlueSho

#124
Quote from: ZSHO on May 03, 2019, 09:08:22 PM
AFAIK New Turbos may require roughly around 800 miles on them (break in period) before the turbo seals seat properly IIRC! Might want to take it easy for a while! Z

https://www.garrettmotion.com/boostadviser/faq.php


So everyone I have talked too has stated that there is a misconception on "seals" with newer turbos. Journal Bearing turbos don't require a break in if they are properly installed and assembled...

There has been a dyno pull plus 10 datalog sessions within 500 miles... if there IS a break in period... oooooops...



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ZSHO

Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 03, 2019, 09:40:48 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 03, 2019, 09:08:22 PM
AFAIK New Turbos may require roughly around 800 miles on them (break in period) before the turbo seals seat properly IIRC! Might want to take it easy for a while! Z

https://www.garrettmotion.com/boostadviser/faq.php


So everyone I have talked too has stated that there is a misconception on "seals" with newer turbos. Journal Bearing turbos don't require a break in if they are properly installed and assembled...

There has been a dyno pull plus 10 datalog sessions within 500 miles... if there IS a break in period... oooooops...



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Good to hear! I was just exercising caution thats all! Good luck. Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

802SHO

Quote from: 18SHO on May 03, 2019, 08:23:29 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 03, 2019, 05:37:55 PM
All cleaned up and ready for the track!!!

Hell yea man , can't wait to see the times ! I see the tires are finally on ! Looking good

Tear it up!  All this foreplay better be worth it😉
IG @802SHO 2010 SHO non PP, Tuned by AJP Turbo, 109 Octane + VP C85 for E30, Ported GH Gen 3 upgraded turbos, Ported 13+ Exhaust Manifolds, Custom FM IC TreadStone TR10C, EPP Hot Pipes, EPP Dual CAI, XDI35 HPFP, Deatschwerks 300C LPFP, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous dual dry shots, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, MSD Coils, SP542 .026, 160 T, 3bar, Phenolic Spacer, Braille Lightweight Battery, Kirky Lightweight Racing Driver Seat, Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Bravado Tribute 20x9.5 + 32 offset Wheels, Nitto NT555R Front Tires, Continental Extreme Contact DW Rear Tires and all are 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, R1 Concepts Geomet slotted/drilled rotors with Heavy Duty Semi Metallic pads, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge.
Currently World's Fastest Ecoboost SHO
11.063 @ 123.17 MPH!  NED 10/10/20

Jordan

Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 03, 2019, 09:40:48 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 03, 2019, 09:08:22 PM
AFAIK New Turbos may require roughly around 800 miles on them (break in period) before the turbo seals seat properly IIRC! Might want to take it easy for a while! Z

https://www.garrettmotion.com/boostadviser/faq.php


So everyone I have talked too has stated that there is a misconception on "seals" with newer turbos. Journal Bearing turbos don't require a break in if they are properly installed and assembled...

There has been a dyno pull plus 10 datalog sessions within 500 miles... if there IS a break in period... oooooops...



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I am a big fan of break it in how you will run it. Obviously after oil has gotten to the right spots of course!
World's Fastest SHO Ecoboost July 2019 - Current

2020 Power Numbers - 536AWHP/647Torque

StealBlueSho

Quote from: 802SHO on May 04, 2019, 06:10:27 AM
Quote from: 18SHO on May 03, 2019, 08:23:29 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 03, 2019, 05:37:55 PM
All cleaned up and ready for the track!!!

Hell yea man , can't wait to see the times ! I see the tires are finally on ! Looking good

Tear it up!  All this foreplay better be worth it

Lol... we will see...not so much foreplay as documentation on a build... if it doesn't work out well then you know.


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SM105K

Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 03, 2019, 09:40:48 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on May 03, 2019, 09:08:22 PM
AFAIK New Turbos may require roughly around 800 miles on them (break in period) before the turbo seals seat properly IIRC! Might want to take it easy for a while! Z

https://www.garrettmotion.com/boostadviser/faq.php


So everyone I have talked too has stated that there is a misconception on "seals" with newer turbos. Journal Bearing turbos don't require a break in if they are properly installed and assembled...

There has been a dyno pull plus 10 datalog sessions within 500 miles... if there IS a break in period... oooooops...



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Yes sir, as said on the journal bearing turbo there is literally nothing there to break in.  Everything glides an rotates on oil film.
"M" 2013 SHO PP | AJPTurbo E30 Tune | FS HPFP | Stock IC with Ice Water DIY Sprayer | PPE Downpipes | Custom Magnaflow Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete | Derale Upgraded Trans Cooler | Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts| EPP Noisemaker Eliminator | MSD Coil Over Plugs | SP-542's | UPR Dual Valve Catch Can | K&N Drop In | Power Stop Slotted and Drilled Rotors with Stock PP Pads | H&R Springs  | AVS Flush Deflector | 802SHO Custom Splitter | Duraflex Chin Spoiler | Curva Concept C7's | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber | 411 HP and 546 TQ |

"The Fukus" 2013 Focus ST | Boomba BOV | FSWerks Short Shifter | Power Stop Brakes | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber |

802SHO

Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 04, 2019, 09:56:26 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on May 04, 2019, 06:10:27 AM
Quote from: 18SHO on May 03, 2019, 08:23:29 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSHO on May 03, 2019, 05:37:55 PM
All cleaned up and ready for the track!!!

Hell yea man , can't wait to see the times ! I see the tires are finally on ! Looking good

Tear it up!  All this foreplay better be worth it

Lol... we will see...not so much foreplay as documentation on a build... if it doesn't work out well then you know.


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Of course it will work out!  Your track has good air too so I'm very excited.
IG @802SHO 2010 SHO non PP, Tuned by AJP Turbo, 109 Octane + VP C85 for E30, Ported GH Gen 3 upgraded turbos, Ported 13+ Exhaust Manifolds, Custom FM IC TreadStone TR10C, EPP Hot Pipes, EPP Dual CAI, XDI35 HPFP, Deatschwerks 300C LPFP, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous dual dry shots, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, MSD Coils, SP542 .026, 160 T, 3bar, Phenolic Spacer, Braille Lightweight Battery, Kirky Lightweight Racing Driver Seat, Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Bravado Tribute 20x9.5 + 32 offset Wheels, Nitto NT555R Front Tires, Continental Extreme Contact DW Rear Tires and all are 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, R1 Concepts Geomet slotted/drilled rotors with Heavy Duty Semi Metallic pads, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge.
Currently World's Fastest Ecoboost SHO
11.063 @ 123.17 MPH!  NED 10/10/20

StealBlueSho

So it looks like my 160F Tstat got stuck open yesterday... car would drop down to 160F and wouldn't get warmed up much past 180F... happened after I did a big pull on the highway...

Interestingly enough although I am not sure if they are correlated I had a pretty big knock event that hit +6KR on the livewire during the pull towards the end.. then was accompanied by some +4.5 ish knock at part throttle shortly afterwards...

Let the car cool off for 4hrs hours and everything seems to be just fine again..

Ordering a new tstat from GH..

802SHO

That's weird!   Glad it appears to be ok and a resolution in the works
IG @802SHO 2010 SHO non PP, Tuned by AJP Turbo, 109 Octane + VP C85 for E30, Ported GH Gen 3 upgraded turbos, Ported 13+ Exhaust Manifolds, Custom FM IC TreadStone TR10C, EPP Hot Pipes, EPP Dual CAI, XDI35 HPFP, Deatschwerks 300C LPFP, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous dual dry shots, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, MSD Coils, SP542 .026, 160 T, 3bar, Phenolic Spacer, Braille Lightweight Battery, Kirky Lightweight Racing Driver Seat, Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Bravado Tribute 20x9.5 + 32 offset Wheels, Nitto NT555R Front Tires, Continental Extreme Contact DW Rear Tires and all are 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, R1 Concepts Geomet slotted/drilled rotors with Heavy Duty Semi Metallic pads, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge.
Currently World's Fastest Ecoboost SHO
11.063 @ 123.17 MPH!  NED 10/10/20

SHOdded

Yikes!  First reported 160 unit failure, i think.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

StealBlueSho

Seems about right for my luck...

Loaded the auto octane tune for the bigger turbos...

It's 450awhp/480awtq iirc..... I'll take it for pump gas! Runs well.


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