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170 degree t-stat and heat

Started by boostedflex, August 22, 2013, 02:49:13 PM

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boostedflex

Hey guys,

Slowly starting my mods, I did an Airaid as the dealer was cool with it, now I am thinking of a 170 t-stat, which I am sure the dealer wont notice or care about.  My question is, how does this affect the in car heat on cold days?  I noticed last winter my Flex took fffooorrreeevvveeer to get warm inside on really cold days.  I do not want to do this mod if it will make that even worse.

Anyone have any thoughts or experience on this?
2017 Explorer Sport
Stock

2012 Flex, sold
Unleashed 93 tune, 170 degree t-stat, Airaid intake, Motorcraft SP534 plugs

DJE624

I am pretty sure your heater will be less efficient.

EcoPowerParts

I can't comment, AZ and all. :) Winter is 60 BRRRRR
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SHOdded

Off the top of my head, since coolant flow would start earlier, it will not be as warm as with the standard tstat.  Do you drive city or highway?  Where are you located, and how cold are we talking about?  May want to get an aux 12v heater to get you through the interior warmup period.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

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crash712us

For Michigan winters I have adequate heat with my 170 t-stat.

2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

arttyszka

Crash, "adequate" is in, "well, that will have to do" or as in "no problem"?

Thanks
Art
2014 Explorer Sport
Lund Tuned | 170 t-stat | K&N Panel | H&R Springs | Coolbulbs.com HID's

Larrylu


Quote from: crash712us on August 22, 2013, 05:57:09 PM
For Michigan winters I have adequate heat with my 170 t-stat.

Crash what's a Michigan winter like?  I'm in upstate NY. Course with global warming winters just don't seem as bad as they used to be!
2010 Loaded, Non PP, Steel Blue Metallic, Livernois Stage 4+, Blacked out grill, Nexus 7 Tablet running Torque Pro

SHOdded

Flex does have more volume to heat up than the SHO ...
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

jomc111

Quote from: Larrylu on August 22, 2013, 06:28:45 PM

Quote from: crash712us on August 22, 2013, 05:57:09 PM
For Michigan winters I have adequate heat with my 170 t-stat.

Crash what's a Michigan winter like?  I'm in upstate NY. Course with global warming winters just don't seem as bad as they used to be!
Similar to your winter here in mi
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2014 focus st

ecoboostsho

I have no problems with mine in Mn and it gets plenty cold up here. Then again I always use the heated seats...
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arttyszka

Quote from: ecoboostsho on August 22, 2013, 08:48:42 PM
I have no problems with mine in Mn and it gets plenty cold up here. Then again I always use the heated seats...
I'm in MN too, so that's good news.  I grew up in MI and a MN Winter is a lot different than what I was used to in MI . . .
2014 Explorer Sport
Lund Tuned | 170 t-stat | K&N Panel | H&R Springs | Coolbulbs.com HID's

EcoBrick Bob

I have run a 170 Deg T-Stat for over 3 years in my Flex.  I return to Iowa at Christmas for at least a week every winter.  I have noticed NO difference in heating up the engine & heater at any time.  I also was running a 160 deg T-stat in my Denali XL for at least 6 years, and I had the same results.  It will not affect the heater time.  In both instances, I saw a 10 -15 degree drop in Coolant temp over stock T-stat.  In the summer, when over 80 deg, it helps to have the fans come on sooner, to match the cooler T-stat, especially if you are at a strip.  Otherwise, it really makes no difference from my experiences in 4 vehicles with 160-170 T-stats.   Go for it.  It is a much better investment than the AirAid...
2010 Red Candy/White EB Flex.. World's first 12 second Brick.. 12.904 @ 106.85 MPH - October 2011
2009 Spt. Red G8 GT - modded. best time 12.074 & 114.02 MPH
2008 White G8 GT - mods... 8.32 1/8 mi.

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boostedflex

Thanks everyone, I am in lower New York, on some winter mornings I would see 5 to 10 degrees outside.  I will probably go with this then, what I had observed was the engine itself took a long time to reach temperature with both the main and rear heat on high in stop and go traffic (mostly stop).  My guess is once it hits 170 I should have enough heat :)

Now I just need to wait for warranty to expire to get the new 4+ tune, I am DYING to have a low to mid 13 second brick :)
2017 Explorer Sport
Stock

2012 Flex, sold
Unleashed 93 tune, 170 degree t-stat, Airaid intake, Motorcraft SP534 plugs

bpd1151

Never had issues with heat blowing from the vents with my 170 degree thermo.

This after having driven through two seasons worth of arctic tundra-like weather here in Chi-Town, when temps sometimes would be not only in the single digits, but also at times, below zero.

You'll be just fine. You'll benefit more by having it tuned, as well as having the cooling fans cycle on at a lower temp and/or with more frequency.