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Methanol Injection VS Gearhead Intercooler

Started by StealBlueSho, February 26, 2019, 12:36:23 PM

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StealBlueSho

February 26, 2019, 12:36:23 PM
 Here is snap shot of IAT2 (air temp at the intake manifold) between my Gearhead Methanol tune using the alky control kit from LMS and my Gearhead E30 Tune using the new GH intercooler... ambient outside was almost identical... same with boost...

802SHO

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February 26, 2019, 01:07:43 PM Last Edit: February 26, 2019, 01:17:53 PM by 802SHO
Meth log went down to 70 degrees and GH IC went down to 77 degrees. 

Ive been thinking about meth and the new GH IC.  How can I utilize meth the same way I am now with the new IC?  I'm wondering if I need the HPFP to make that happen while staying with pump 93.  I want to make sure the new IC is being used to my benefit as much as possible.  I don't want to dial back meth if I don't have to.  Lol if I want to run things on the super safe side I would remove all my mods an thats not happening.  So running the new IC to then dial back Meth sounds counter productive to me.  Imagine that...85 degree ambient outside and 35 degrees at the manifold or less!  Lol maybe that will cause a fueling issue but I dunno.  Sounds good to me to have it below zero at the manifold while its 95 degrees out
IG @802SHO 2010 SHO non PP, Tuned by AJP Turbo, 109 Octane + VP C85 for E30, Ported GH Gen 3 upgraded turbos, Ported 13+ Exhaust Manifolds, Custom FM IC TreadStone TR10C, EPP Hot Pipes, EPP Dual CAI, XDI35 HPFP, Deatschwerks 300C LPFP, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous dual dry shots, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, MSD Coils, SP542 .026, 160 T, 3bar, Phenolic Spacer, Braille Lightweight Battery, Kirky Lightweight Racing Driver Seat, Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Bravado Tribute 20x9.5 + 32 offset Wheels, Nitto NT555R Front Tires, Continental Extreme Contact DW Rear Tires and all are 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, R1 Concepts Geomet slotted/drilled rotors with Heavy Duty Semi Metallic pads, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge.
Currently World's Fastest Ecoboost SHO
11.063 @ 123.17 MPH!  NED 10/10/20

StealBlueSho

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February 26, 2019, 01:16:34 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on February 26, 2019, 01:07:43 PM
Meth log went down to 70 degrees and GH IC went down to 77 degrees. 

Ive been thinking about meth and the new GH IC.  How can I utilize meth the same way I am now with the new IC?  I'm wondering of I need the HPFP to make that happen while staying with pump 93.  I want to make sure the new IC is being used to my benefit as much as possible.  I don't want to dial back meth if I don't have to.  Lol if I want to run things on the super safe side I would remove all my mods an thats not happening.


You shouldnt need the HPFP if you are running meth.. unless you want it for safety in the event the meth pump dies on you. HOWEVER, with the HPFP, you can dial back the meth for sure since you wont need it for additional FUEL.. but spray enough take advantage of the increased OCTANE/COOLING.

As far as coupling it with the GH IC... I am curious what kind of benefits you may see as well.. I know there is atleast one guy who has the IC and is spraying meth.. but not sure if they have installed the IC yet...

802SHO

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February 26, 2019, 01:25:11 PM
Ok that answers that question as its really an issue with ethonal blended tunes with low IAT2 temps and fueling.  I wasnt sure if I would need it.  I'm very curious to see how much benefit the two powers combined are.  Trying to figure out if I'm missing something else to support the combo...other than upgraded turbos.  Can't do both.  Idk maybe upgrade the turbos and not the IC.....if only I go do it all at once ...that would be nice. 
IG @802SHO 2010 SHO non PP, Tuned by AJP Turbo, 109 Octane + VP C85 for E30, Ported GH Gen 3 upgraded turbos, Ported 13+ Exhaust Manifolds, Custom FM IC TreadStone TR10C, EPP Hot Pipes, EPP Dual CAI, XDI35 HPFP, Deatschwerks 300C LPFP, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous dual dry shots, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, MSD Coils, SP542 .026, 160 T, 3bar, Phenolic Spacer, Braille Lightweight Battery, Kirky Lightweight Racing Driver Seat, Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Bravado Tribute 20x9.5 + 32 offset Wheels, Nitto NT555R Front Tires, Continental Extreme Contact DW Rear Tires and all are 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, R1 Concepts Geomet slotted/drilled rotors with Heavy Duty Semi Metallic pads, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge.
Currently World's Fastest Ecoboost SHO
11.063 @ 123.17 MPH!  NED 10/10/20

802SHO

#4
February 26, 2019, 01:26:55 PM
But yeah my meth logs look like I already have an upgraded IC.
IG @802SHO 2010 SHO non PP, Tuned by AJP Turbo, 109 Octane + VP C85 for E30, Ported GH Gen 3 upgraded turbos, Ported 13+ Exhaust Manifolds, Custom FM IC TreadStone TR10C, EPP Hot Pipes, EPP Dual CAI, XDI35 HPFP, Deatschwerks 300C LPFP, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous dual dry shots, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, MSD Coils, SP542 .026, 160 T, 3bar, Phenolic Spacer, Braille Lightweight Battery, Kirky Lightweight Racing Driver Seat, Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Bravado Tribute 20x9.5 + 32 offset Wheels, Nitto NT555R Front Tires, Continental Extreme Contact DW Rear Tires and all are 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, R1 Concepts Geomet slotted/drilled rotors with Heavy Duty Semi Metallic pads, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge.
Currently World's Fastest Ecoboost SHO
11.063 @ 123.17 MPH!  NED 10/10/20

SM105K

#5
February 26, 2019, 01:54:49 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on February 26, 2019, 01:26:55 PM
But yeah my meth logs look like I already have an upgraded IC.

I would get the IC and dial back the meth just to be safe. 
"M" 2013 SHO PP | AJPTurbo E30 Tune | FS HPFP | Stock IC with Ice Water DIY Sprayer | PPE Downpipes | Custom Magnaflow Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete | Derale Upgraded Trans Cooler | Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts| EPP Noisemaker Eliminator | MSD Coil Over Plugs | SP-542's | UPR Dual Valve Catch Can | K&N Drop In | Power Stop Slotted and Drilled Rotors with Stock PP Pads | H&R Springs  | AVS Flush Deflector | 802SHO Custom Splitter | Duraflex Chin Spoiler | Curva Concept C7's | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber | 411 HP and 546 TQ |

"The Fukus" 2013 Focus ST | Boomba BOV | FSWerks Short Shifter | Power Stop Brakes | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber |

ToMang07

#6
February 26, 2019, 01:55:51 PM
Is the IC actually available now? Not seeing it on Matt's site

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~Tom~
2013 SHO - Stage 3 Snow Performance Meth, (2) SCT X4 with Unleashed, 3 Bar Map, MSD Ignition Coils w/Colder Plugs 170*TS, EcoPowerParts Hot Pipes & Tial-Q BOV) Stage 3 Motorsports Catless Downpipes 3" Cat-Back Exhaust, JLT Oil Separator, H&R Sport Springs, K&N CAI, Drilled and Slotted Rotors w/EBC Pads

StealBlueSho

#7
February 26, 2019, 01:59:09 PM
Quote from: ToMang07 on February 26, 2019, 01:55:51 PM
Is the IC actually available now? Not seeing it on Matt's site

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They are not listed on the site. You will need to email sales@ghtuning.com. He has 8 left.

bpd1151

#8
February 26, 2019, 02:01:23 PM


Quote from: BJSHO on February 26, 2019, 01:16:34 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on February 26, 2019, 01:07:43 PM
Meth log went down to 70 degrees and GH IC went down to 77 degrees. 

Ive been thinking about meth and the new GH IC.  How can I utilize meth the same way I am now with the new IC?  I'm wondering of I need the HPFP to make that happen while staying with pump 93.  I want to make sure the new IC is being used to my benefit as much as possible.  I don't want to dial back meth if I don't have to.  Lol if I want to run things on the super safe side I would remove all my mods an thats not happening.


You shouldnt need the HPFP if you are running meth.. unless you want it for safety in the event the meth pump dies on you. HOWEVER, with the HPFP, you can dial back the meth for sure since you wont need it for additional FUEL.. but spray enough take advantage of the increased OCTANE/COOLING.

As far as coupling it with the GH IC... I am curious what kind of benefits you may see as well.. I know there is atleast one guy who has the IC and is spraying meth.. but not sure if they have installed the IC yet...

Yup...... this.

I already have the upgraded turbos along with a built motor and pretty much everything else.

I've purchased the  upgraded HPFP and IC and will be installing both of those in the next few weeks.

I won't know of the definitive improvements until I schedule (yet another) dyno session at LMS.

I will report back though once it all happens.

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