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Ford removing cars from the us

Started by Gjkrisa, April 26, 2018, 01:50:52 AM

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SilvererSHO

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on April 26, 2018, 02:37:14 PM
People like to whine and complain about oil prices but the fact of the matter is there is a long term plan in place to use everyone else's oil first.

Periods of short term pain for long term gain.


I think more and more everyday that we'll never run out of oil actually.  New technologies will just get better/cheaper and that's why we'll abandon the internal combustion engine eventually.  Not because it's too expensive to refine oil into gasoline.
All Silver(er)SHO.  2012, every option with PP running new Firehawk Indy 500's.

SilvererSHO

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on April 26, 2018, 02:44:58 PM
That being said, never underestimate the ability of politicians to screw everything up.


Post of the day!!! :thumb:
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mval

i personally would never sell ford short on their business plan. in fact they were by far the best set for new cafe std's but if trump's epa move them further out, not so good for ford. who else could get away with calling our cars eco( economy) boost. my escape 2.0 gets only 20-21 around town & actually does no better than my sho on the road. still surprised they are going to ax the fusion, although from a distance can't tell a fusion from the imports she competes against until i see ford oval, so a very crowded market segment.
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FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: SilvererSHO on April 26, 2018, 02:51:18 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on April 26, 2018, 02:31:22 PM
Quote from: SilvererSHO on April 26, 2018, 02:19:04 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on April 26, 2018, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: Macgyver on April 26, 2018, 12:22:11 PM
Mustang and that other car are the only ones plus SUVs, Commercial units, and Trucks. They are only eliminating Fiesta, Focus, Fusion, Taurus. Only. lol

Oh well. Gonna kill em when fuel hits $4.50 a gallon again.

Buy stocks from other automakers.

Where is Ford stock at today? Drop?
Maybe not, as long as they continue building Euro cars to global spec.

If another crisis happens they could ship their Euro econoboxes to the states.


If?  I think you meant when....
Nope, we have plenty of oil and our shale producers have done a great job kicking OPEC in the nutz.

The days of OPEC manipulation are over.


That still doesn't mean we won't see $4/gal gasoline again.  And when we do people seem to be pretty irrational over it all.  Selling/trading vehicles and paying more to buy something that gets a bit better MPG and taking it in the shorts on their trade in because of the market value at the time on both vehicles due to the circumstances.  They seem content with spending twice as much doing that than just toughing it out and paying for the $4 gas and driving what they have.  That's all I'm saying....
Well there is sure to be short term supply disruptions...natural disasters, terrorism, Brad drinking too much on the job, etc.

But the fact of the matter is we can't base national security policy on the irrationality of the Sheople.

Their irrationality is what I call a good buying opportunity.

Let it go to $5.00/gal, I have an E85 tune ready to go and a flex fuel focus to drive around in looking for cheap gas guzzlers to buy. Wait till the smoke clears and sell for profit. The stock tune with a minor adjustment will run E-85 without issue.

Chance favors the prepared mind and I don't feel bad for those minds that aren't prepared.


sholxgt

I think this is Ford's way of trying to focus on higher profit margin vehicles so they can finance their electric car dreams.

That being said, I see it as a massive mistake.  First they will alienate their car customers and then try to get them back with electric cars.  You won't see F150 and Mustang owners switching to electric.  It's the car customer that will switch.  How will they go about getting those customers back?
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Personal opinion it is a very bad choice on fords behalf to get rid of all these vehicles that are always in high demand and with gas prices increasing this is a very bad move on their part but we will still be here continuing full support for all of our ecoboost owners!

griggs95

I say let the free market decide if we need electric cars or not. Currently electric cars make up like 1% and obviously people really aren't that hip to the whole idea of them yet. They also aren't as good for the environment as they want us to believe. If this country stopped all greenhouse gases today for the next 20 years, it would only make a 5% difference worldwide because of everyone else's emissions.

Still takes fossil fuels to charge the cars, toxic plants making batteries, tires, metals, lithium mining etc etc. Cattle and all the other livestock are what is really making up a little over half of all the greenhouse gasses, so why is this never mentioned?

If you really want to fix the problem (which they don't) stop having a bunch of kids. Whats the problem with every problem we have - ta da - overpopulation.

Over fishing, air quality, CO2's, landfills, housing, starvation, pensions, health etc. Every single problem we have is tied to overpopulation yet nobody is talking about it.

Honestly, when I see a family with a bunch of kids it makes me sick now. All I see if a future burden for the rest of us. With outsourcing and robotics, what jobs do these dumb dumbs think they're kids are going to have? This is a country of consumerism now and a little production instead of the opposite in which it used to be. Think outside yourselves and just look back 20 years then look into the future 20 more; that's a blink of an eye in time but just try it.
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SHOdded

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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

5ohSHO

I have been tossing the idea around of getting rid of the PI for an actual SHO ever since my wife got hers. This news may have helped me make up my mind haha. I didn't realize how hard it was to find a new PP car though.

wraitherx

Makes me want another sho


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dubcitySHO

I didn't read the entire press release.  Is the PI gone as well?  They sell a TON to LE agencies all across the nation... 
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StealBlueSho

My guess with all these odd seemingly made decisions is that these are not made by really with information gathered by people....

Think about all the data Ford gets now...

They get it from all the dealers(sales, repairs, maintenance, etc), all the sync updates where information is sent back , all the places that participate in carfax, etc etc etc...

That's a CRAP load of data given how many Fords are on the road... and I bet all this data is being crunched on the back end by their datacenters to pull ALL kinds of information...organize it... and predict trends. They still have the data from the last gas increase a few years back. So they can model based on historical information now...

ROI on the sedan market vs ROI on the CUV/SUV market is what it is at the end of the day....

I could go on... but... in any event I have no doubt there is petabytes of data that was analyzed before making this call...




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SHOdded

Data mining, gotta love it, LOL.  They always think they have taken up mindreading ... Until proven wrong.  There is a difference between people making do and what they really want.  Question is:  is the future indeed promising?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Brucelinc

As a long time Ford guy, I am saddened by the news.  However, as a Ford stockholder, I think it makes some sense.   Keep in mind Ford is NOT in the business to make cars - they are in the business to make MONEY.   This has always been true but especially under current Ford leadership.   Sales and market share mean nothing.  Profit means everything.

Personally, I could be happy with a new Ranger and a new Mustang.    Many of my friends and relatives have already abandoned sedans and are happy with their Explorers, Expeditions or Escapes.   I hate seeing the Fusion discontinued but Ford has a nasty habit of not keeping their car line-up competitive.  The Taurus is a good example - no updates since 2013.   The Fusion hasn't been substantially changed either.   

If Ford cared as much about cars as they do trucks, their cars would be world class.  Sadly, they often let their cars rot on the vine.

StealBlueSho

Quote from: SHOdded on April 28, 2018, 09:17:25 AM
Data mining, gotta love it, LOL.  They always think they have taken up mindreading ... Until proven wrong.  There is a difference between people making do and what they really want.  Question is:  is the future indeed promising?

It's actually pretty scary.. I work in the business of machine learning and artificial intelligence... which is basically what all these major companies are using with the data-mining to make decisions.... what they can do with the data is scary... additionally you bet your butt that not only is ford pulling information first hand they are also buying information from other data-mining organizations to feed into their data processing warehouses...

In any event... What people want vs what they are doing is usually very different...

At this point, the biggest issue is taking into account major world issues that can change the decision making process on a mass scale for people. But then again... no risk no reward.


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