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please help me understand what the crap is going on? (wastegates) : Resolved!!!

Started by TopherSho, January 28, 2018, 12:11:03 PM

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SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

TopherSho

This time I'm pretty damn convinced.. :)   So convinced I will drop in the 15 pound tune and test, it then hook the meth up,  then test that... and then move back to the meth build. 
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

Colorado-SHOBro

great to hear! def report back on the gap of your old plugs and keep an eye on them. hopefully issues don't persist.
i would be surprised if the plug fouling was caused by just one step colder plugs on a tuned SHO in ANY climate but who knows. i've always used 1 step colder plugs and never had any fouling in CO.
wonder if meth is cooling the cylinders enough to cause the fouling.



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11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

TopherSho

2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

TopherSho

Still working!  Driving it hard.

The plug gap was normal on both banks.  it was just the amount of baked in glazed carbon.. way too cold.
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

SHOdded

If you have not replaced the pcv valve/separator, would consider that as preventive  maintenance, along with a CAC check/clean.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

derfdog15

Glad its fixed, please tell me you added an extra zero to the boost solenoid cost though. Its a $30 part, and a 5 minute swap, if you take half the time to drink a beer.

Still, glad the car is back as it should be!
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car

TopherSho

2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

TopherSho

Quote from: derfdog15 on February 08, 2018, 09:34:42 AM
Glad its fixed, please tell me you added an extra zero to the boost solenoid cost though. Its a $30 part, and a 5 minute swap, if you take half the time to drink a beer.

Still, glad the car is back as it should be!

no ford charged 300 for the deal.. but i also made them replace all the damn hoses under the hood on all the secondary systems as well. 
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

SHOdded

The TSB specifies these parts

AA5Z-6A666-D   PCV Valve
AA5Z-6A785-F   Crankcase Vent Oil Separator

So the motorcraft pcv valve you listed should be perfect.  I don't see the CVOS listed on their site tho?

https://parts.autonationfordwhitebearlake.com/oem-parts/ford-separator-aa5z6a785f/
https://parts.autonationfordwhitebearlake.com/oem-parts/ford-pcv-valve-aa5z6a666d/
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

TopherSho

Is that the little bugger on the top rear passenger cylinder head?

aannddd... CVOS?
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

SHOdded

crankcase vent oil separator

and yes, rear valve cover, pass strut tower side.  pcv valve sits atop the separator.



2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

TopherSho

Quote from: SHOdded on February 08, 2018, 10:32:32 AM
crankcase vent oil separator

and yes, rear valve cover, pass strut tower side.  pcv valve sits atop the separator.



Thought so!  thank ye good sir!
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

derfdog15

This is the solenoid I was referencing,  https://www.1aauto.com/turbocharger-bypass-valve-solenoid-ford-oem-bl3z-9k378-a/i/fdzmx00010

I'm guessing they charged an hour or two of labor, or the hose prices are higher than DIY hoses, because they're probably specific motorcraft parts.
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car

TopherSho

Quote from: derfdog15 on February 08, 2018, 11:03:04 AM
This is the solenoid I was referencing,  https://www.1aauto.com/turbocharger-bypass-valve-solenoid-ford-oem-bl3z-9k378-a/i/fdzmx00010

I'm guessing they charged an hour or two of labor, or the hose prices are higher than DIY hoses, because they're probably specific motorcraft parts.

Yeah,  they charged a bunch for labor after i made them validate hoses and replace all the hoses that came of that, and a bunch of the secondary hoses. 

Ultimately the full bill as around 3000$ out of pocket with about 1500-ish in warranty coverage. in total without the warranty i'd be out of pocket 4500$. keep in mind that includes a control arm, and a slew of rusted bolts and things ..

Making these cars fast is easy,  *however I am the very definition of the cautionary tale.*  if you are not able to do most your own work,  fixing things that break after tuning can be VERY expensive.

2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction