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please help me understand what the crap is going on? (wastegates) : Resolved!!!

Started by TopherSho, January 28, 2018, 12:11:03 PM

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StealBlueSho

Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on February 06, 2018, 07:51:18 AM
^ Thats a good thing SBS! not saying he 534 is a bad option but they're made to run a .044 gap

id rather run a plug that's designed to run a small gap like we need and won't spread out as much over time.

542s also seem to be cheaper and require a lot less adjustment of the gap before installing.


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The SP-534 come pregapped from the factory at .030....


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Colorado-SHOBro

My mistake it must be the NGKs that come with the larger gap?
so as it stands the 542's are one heat range cooler than the 534s.
both viable options


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12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

TopherSho

Quote from: stealbluesho on February 06, 2018, 08:01:16 AM
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on February 06, 2018, 07:51:18 AM
^ Thats a good thing SBS! not saying he 534 is a bad option but they're made to run a .044 gap

id rather run a plug that's designed to run a small gap like we need and won't spread out as much over time.

542s also seem to be cheaper and require a lot less adjustment of the gap before installing.


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The SP-534 come pregapped from the factory at .030....

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I assume these are colder plugs than stock? 
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

derfdog15

Quote from: TopherSho on February 06, 2018, 11:23:05 AM
Quote from: stealbluesho on February 06, 2018, 08:01:16 AM
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on February 06, 2018, 07:51:18 AM
^ Thats a good thing SBS! not saying he 534 is a bad option but they're made to run a .044 gap

id rather run a plug that's designed to run a small gap like we need and won't spread out as much over time.

542s also seem to be cheaper and require a lot less adjustment of the gap before installing.


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The SP-534 come pregapped from the factory at .030....

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I assume these are colder plugs than stock?

IIRC the 534 is the stock heat range, the 542s are one range cooler.
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Colorado-SHOBro

yeah 534 is stock for 13+ and 542s are one step colder


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11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

TopherSho

That confuses me.   SBS runs higher boost than me,  would he not be on colder plugs?
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

AJP turbo

Quote from: TopherSho on February 06, 2018, 12:26:48 PM
That confuses me.   SBS runs higher boost than me,  would he not be on colder plugs?

Why would he have to be?
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Former:2014 PP SHO
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405whp/520tq
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StealBlueSho


TopherSho

2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

TopherSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on February 06, 2018, 12:28:35 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on February 06, 2018, 12:26:48 PM
That confuses me.   SBS runs higher boost than me,  would he not be on colder plugs?

Why would he have to be?

Ok more confusion..  did that change?  I SWEAR it has been beaten into me i needed colder plugs to offset pre-ignition ...

So really serious what plugs should i be on for a non-meth 15 or 14.5 pound tune?   i am so confused ..

2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

SHOdded

Really, no need to spend so much time on so minor an item.  Put in sp534 plugs.  Done.
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AJP turbo

Spark plugs are a supporting mod just like downpipes, filters, exhaust and so on....Are they essential, no.

Yes some people and companies would have you believe they are essential...Colder plugs help extract heat from the combustion chamber which may help in reduce preignition....Higher octane fuel is the best means to help with that condition.

I ran the dog crap out of my SHO and had 22k on the stock plugs with countless 20 psi runs on 93 octane fuel....
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

TopherSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on February 06, 2018, 01:06:34 PM
Spark plugs are a supporting mod just like downpipes, filters, exhaust and so on....Are they essential, no.

Yes some people and companies would have you believe they are essential...Colder plugs help extract heat from the combustion chamber which may help in reduce preignition....Higher octane fuel is the best means to help with that condition.

I ran the dog crap out of my SHO and had 22k on the stock plugs with countless 20 psi runs on 93 octane fuel....

ok,  well then i will replace the plugs after looking at the connectors to the ECU.   

AJP,  what would a blowout look like to you on the logs?  anything at all ?
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

TopherSho

Any special tools needed to remove the cowl to inspect the water logged exposed to air rain mud snow washer fluid pressure washers ECU?

*stupidest place for a ECU*
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

StealBlueSho

Quote from: TopherSho on February 06, 2018, 01:39:24 PM
Any special tools needed to remove the cowl to inspect the water logged exposed to air rain mud snow washer fluid pressure washers ECU?

*stupidest place for a ECU*


To be 100% fair here.. I only know of one thread where someone had an ECU go bad...