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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2018, 11:22:35 AM »
Measured just about .029. Ran out of time before pulling the other plugs. I swapped the coils on 2 and 6. See if maybe it jumps. I couldn't visually see anything wrong with coil 2 but that doesn't mean much.
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2018, 12:42:44 PM »
Check the COP for any tears or rips...sometimes it's beneficial to install new COP (Coil-On-Plug) especially in high heat climates which are more susceptible to wear n tear.. some food for thought.  Z

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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2018, 01:49:03 PM »
I checked it for any signs of wear. Couldnt see anything out of the ordinary. Nut there is a lot going on internally that I don't have access to see. I heard the coils tend to go around this time for the older SHOs. But it is usually one or 2. Was looking at the MSD ones about a month ago but never heard if there was any real benefit to it. But seems like a set of plugs and coils are on the list for the near future.
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2018, 02:04:22 PM »
0.029 is hardly worn.  Original must have been 0.028?  And no sign of oil?
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2018, 02:40:09 PM »
I believe we gapped to .028  when we installed. I thought it was about .029 but current gap says otherwise. I said about .029 but its about half way between .029 and .03. I couldn't find any oil around. Boot and plug just had a little grease for the install. Plug is exactly as pictured. I tried to look down into the hole but didn't see anything out of the ordinary. And nothing struck me as out of place when I pulled the plug.

My wife has been driving it since about August. I know she isnt as "spirited" as me when she drives. So I know she hasn't done any launches or hard accelerations like I have. Hell, even when I drove it, I would only do when data logging. Once I had all the work done, I babied it so it could break in correctly.
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2018, 07:50:19 AM »
So after those minor tweaks, I drover a good couple hundred miles yesterday. Felt smooth all over. Parked and went inside for an errand. Came out, turned on the AC at idle, Felt it get kind of rough. Another misfire cylinder 2. Starting to think it is possibly an injector issue. Was absolutely fine driving around everywhere.
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2018, 08:23:37 AM »
Sure seems like it.  Since there no signs of COP failure and the plug looks ok, injector is at the head of the list now.  We have had one member document his R&R experience if you intend to DIY.
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2018, 10:14:58 AM »
I will probably let the dealership handle that one. Seemed pretty straight forward on the DIY. I still have a warranty and there are a couple other small issues I need addressed.

I know it isnt ideal but will probably still take the SHO on the trip. Will keep a close eye on it. but as soon as I get back, it will be going in.

What's your consensus on running a bottle of Techron or something similiar just to see if it helps a bit?
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2018, 10:37:25 AM »
cant hurt.  Make sure you put in the Concentrate Plus product, not a lesser one.  If you can get BG 44K, that would be even better. 

I assume you are running E10, so a bottle of HEET (yellow bottle) might also help, but prob take a tank's worth of gas to find out.
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2018, 12:32:39 PM »
I will probably let the dealership handle that one. Seemed pretty straight forward on the DIY. I still have a warranty and there are a couple other small issues I need addressed.

I know it isnt ideal but will probably still take the SHO on the trip. Will keep a close eye on it. but as soon as I get back, it will be going in.

What's your consensus on running a bottle of Techron or something similiar just to see if it helps a bit?
I ran 3 bottles through the MKS when I got it.

Costco has 6 packs cheap.
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2018, 01:15:04 PM »
Usually I run a bottle of the concentrate or sometimes I will run a bottle of Guaranteed To Pass. Just depends. I will do some driving and see if I can get this tank low and throw in a bottle and see how it reacts.

FoMo, good thinking! I never think costco when it comes to automotive stuff so I will have to try that out!
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2018, 06:38:35 PM »
Maybe...probably just marketing gobbledygook.
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2018, 06:29:57 AM »
Well, SHO died on the trip. Broke down outside of San Antonio in Kerrville. Wife was driving and started acting funny. Then it just died. Tried to restart and nothing. Had it towed to the ford dealership in Kerrville. They said when they checked, it had no oil and the motor seized up. Had an oil change the day before we left. They have had the car for a week now and barely got it on a lift yesterday. Still don't know exactly what caused the leak or if the dealership that did the oil change is at fault. Sure hope it was their fault. Will end up needing a new motor. But hey, the rest of the trip was fun.
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2018, 06:42:43 AM »
Man that sucks. What a turn of events. So you had no warning? Low oil pressure/level?
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