New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost

802SHO · January 26, 2019, 02:04:44 PM

Quote from: 10bird on January 26, 2019, 01:47:26 PM
Does this intercooler make meth unnecessary?

The intercooler upgrade will increase power. Meth increases power. I have meth, I'll still get more hp and torque from upgrading my intercooler. Without meth you'll get increased hp and torque. If you upgrade your intercooler instead of doing meth injection ....youll enjoy similar performance benefits as meth but they don't equal eachother out. Having both will make more power than going with one or the other only. Less scientific explanation than most lol I'm sure someone can chime in.

SHOdded · January 26, 2019, 05:28:10 PM

Methanol will still retain its' benefit of cleaning the back of the intake valves, and you will need a lot less for that sole purpose. If you have a progressive controller and are tuned for it, you could vary its' contribution to power levels as well in high DA conditions. Benefit to having both. Together, a 1-2 punch IMHO.

avidmotion · January 26, 2019, 06:18:14 PM

Squabbling over the price? No, i realize the time and cost of R&D and happy it is even done for our small close nit group of enthusiasts. Get rid of my SHO is laughable in itself. Not going to hapen took me years to get. I had 90, and a 95 before this 2013, and got the PP for the extra coolers. In my situation i was referring to how long it will take me to save up to get and install the CAC. Not everyone has spendable fun money or a performance part budget. No one has to make fun of and insult those of us that has to research and plan to get either maintenance or power parts....

ZSHO · January 26, 2019, 07:41:49 PM

FYI -There was no harm intended IMO and Let's keep our discussions grounded and straight to the point! TIA. Z

SHOdded · January 26, 2019, 08:50:05 PM

Def no harm no foul. Simply speaking to the tremendous bang for the buck this mod is.

Budgeting is part of everyone's process for things like this. It IS hard to look at things happening, want those things to happen to YOUR vehicle, but have to defer or forgo it completely. Many a time I have been in that boat, and I am sure many others have as well. As they say, food, clothing, housing come first. Paying bills can be a b****.

AJP turbo · January 26, 2019, 11:42:50 PM

Quote from: 10bird on January 26, 2019, 01:47:26 PM
Does this intercooler make meth unnecessary?

No. But depends on your goals and use of the car. The intercooler won't add octane. But there are many benefits that you get besides octane. But the cooler temps afforded to you from the upgraded intercooler will give benefits without octane.

This intercooler will help people more than they realize. It's awesome. And I think the cost is reasonable to say the least. This wasn't your run of the mill intercooler development. Most cars have them right upfront in the grill. Ford blessed the SHO with having the intercooler buried.

This is going to help so much when the temps are hot.

Agentlongwood · January 27, 2019, 10:33:40 PM

Quote from: avidmotion on January 26, 2019, 06:18:14 PM
Not everyone has spendable fun money or a performance part budget.

This is me, lol. I want the dang intercooler so dang bad... and the price seems right. But man it's hard to get $850 Approved from the Willful Internal Finance Executive.

bpd1151 · January 27, 2019, 10:37:22 PM

Quote from: Agentlongwood on January 27, 2019, 10:33:40 PMBut man it's hard to get $850 Approved from the Willful Internal Finance Executive.

Ha! This made me chuckle.

Thus why y'all need to set aside some secret stash money for exactly these types of purchases.

I wish you and others good luck in those efforts.

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Agentlongwood · January 27, 2019, 11:10:30 PM

Some day... I mean we don't keep secrets, but my "side money" is going to paying my student loans for the foreseeable future. Sometimes we end up going overboard with the penny pinching, but she does keep me on the straight and narrow. All things considered it's pretty good. She's a keeper, lol.

StealBlueSho · February 04, 2019, 04:16:03 PM

Installed mine yesterday... thanks Jordan for the video!

Couple notes...

The fender lining on my SHO didn't have screws connecting to the bumper. It was 7/32 bolts. Yes, not metric... weird, curious if anyone runs into that?

My drain plug was on the passenger side of the radiator.

If you have a PP you need to remove the aux trans cooler to gain EASY access to the passenger side condenser bolt.

You can just remove the 5 plastic screws from the bottom splash guard connecting to the bumper lip. You don't need to remove the bottom lip as depicted in the video.

Don't forget to swap the metal screw clips from the old IC to the new one for the condenser.

I went through 1.5 Gallons of coolant.

IAT at the manifold has greatly been reduced. After sitting it doesn't take long afterwards to clear the hot air out. When driving in 60F temps I have yet to see anything over 100F. It seems to be happy 20F-30F above ambient when cruising and doesn't heat soak (yet in my testing).

Will be interested in comparing logs between last year at the track and this year.

Like I told Matt... the added weight over the front tires might help at the track ;-)

Jordan · February 04, 2019, 09:57:19 PM

7/32 is about 5.5mm so could be either or. Drain plug is dependant on build date no clue where each cut off is. Matt said his was passenger as well, mine was driver. The aux cooler was definitely an after thought LOL. Nice you got it finished up.

On other news did an o2 sensor today in mine. Had one hitting the crapper.

SM105K · February 05, 2019, 08:20:39 AM

Just bit the bullet and purchased my intercooler. Going to throw her on the rollers next week to see what she does pre and post IC install. 430 hp and over 510 tq would be pretty damn cool.

StealBlueSho · February 05, 2019, 09:07:20 AM

Quote from: Jordan on February 04, 2019, 09:57:19 PM
7/32 is about 5.5mm so could be either or. Drain plug is dependant on build date no clue where each cut off is. Matt said his was passenger as well, mine was driver. The aux cooler was definitely an after thought LOL. Nice you got it finished up.

On other news did an o2 sensor today in mine. Had one hitting the crapper.

7/32 fits like a glove. 5mm was too small and 6mm was too big. Trust me, when everything else on this car is metric I was a little surprised. I actually tried 2 different 5mm sockets just make sure I wasn't going crazy.

I wonder if any late MY 2016+ guys can confirm if theirs is the same. My build date is 11/2016. If not, then I wonder if this car was in an accident.

802SHO · February 05, 2019, 10:13:27 AM

Quote from: sm105k on February 05, 2019, 08:20:39 AM
Just bit the bullet and purchased my intercooler. Going to throw her on the rollers next week to see what she does pre and post IC install. 430 hp and over 510 tq would be pretty damn cool.

I must be waiting for an engraved invitation lol I just want to complete my first year of the new business taxes before I make a move on it. Look forward to your dyno results ....pretty cool youre doing that!

SM105K · February 05, 2019, 10:28:57 AM

Quote from: 802SHO on February 05, 2019, 10:13:27 AM
Quote from: sm105k on February 05, 2019, 08:20:39 AM
Just bit the bullet and purchased my intercooler. Going to throw her on the rollers next week to see what she does pre and post IC install. 430 hp and over 510 tq would be pretty damn cool.

I must be waiting for an engraved invitation lol I just want to complete my first year of the new business taxes before I make a move on it. Look forward to your dyno results ....pretty cool youre doing that!

Yeah, I am pretty excited. It will knock out two birds with one stone. I need the IC for the AZ heat, and I need to swap the coolant and throw in a new T-stat.

I think with the IC, a new E30 tune for said intercooler, and DP's (later) the car will go into the 11's pretty consistently. I like to document changes with dyno and track results. $120 for 3 pulls is a no brainer for the data.