• Welcome to Ecoboost Performance Forum. Please log in or sign up.
collapse

Should I use VP16 race fuel.

Started by 396375, October 28, 2017, 01:10:39 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

396375

I'm going to the track in 2 days.I have a dead stock 2010 MKS ECO.I'm running a  Stage 4 Plus X 93 tune from Livernois.I'll be starting with pump 94 and I have about 2 1/2 gallons of VP16.Will the race fuel kill my O2 sensor?
Thanks

bamsho

If its leaded it will def damage the O2 sensors.  They arent cheap to replace.
2013 white Gen 5.  Gearhead Intercooler, Turbosmart wastegate actuators, Alky Controls meth kit, Livernois catted downpipes,  Livernois Corsa cat back black etched tips.  2016 True Street Champion.

AJP turbo

I can't find VP16 on their website.

I think that's overkill...94 or 96 octane will likely be enough to allow the knock sensors to give you the max allowed spark anyway.

Also important about the fuel is that the stoic point is similar to that of your pump gas, otherwise your fuel trims can be off and that could have the same effect as adding too much ethanol which LMS says not to add on their tunes.
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

ZSHO

#3
I know LMS recommends using VP-(MS109) in conjunction with there race tune.
So pump 94 Petrol is equivalent to 91 octane US ?   I would also worry about your knock sensors.

I did see VP-C16!!!. Z

https://vpracingfuels.com/product/c16/

https://vpracingfuels.com/product/motorsport-109-ms109/


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

AJP turbo

#4
Quote from: ZSHO on October 28, 2017, 05:30:45 PM
I know LMS recommends using VP-(MS109) in conjunction with there race tune.
So pump 94 Petrol is equivalent to 91 octane US ?
I did see VP-C16!!!. Z

https://vpracingfuels.com/product/c16/

https://vpracingfuels.com/product/motorsport-109-ms109/

I guess that would surprise me a bit considering they have said they don't like people adding E85 to their tunes...the stoic point I have found for ms 109 is about 13.4 which would be like running an E22 mix

I would think it would be fine but it was lms that always said that

The stoic point of that fuel would tax your fuel system a bit more than pump gas since the stoic is lower

He said vp16 not vp c16
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

AJP turbo

And that c16 is leaded so I would not run that...but I would call vp and ask instead of asking forum people about race fuels
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

ZSHO

#6
Quote from: AJP turbo on October 28, 2017, 05:44:12 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on October 28, 2017, 05:30:45 PM
I know LMS recommends using VP-(MS109) in conjunction with there race tune.
So pump 94 Petrol is equivalent to 91 octane US ?
I did see VP-C16!!!. Z

https://vpracingfuels.com/product/c16/

https://vpracingfuels.com/product/motorsport-109-ms109/

I guess that would surprise me a bit considering they have said they don't like people adding E85 to their tunes...the stoic point I have found for ms 109 is about 13.4 which would be like running an E22 mix

I would think it would be fine but it was lms that always said that

The stoic point of that fuel would tax your fuel system a bit more than pump gas since the stoic is lower

He said vp16 not vp c16
The question was related to the OP!! maybe he meant C16 ! Dunno. Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

396375