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Re: Cold start rattle!

Started by ZSHO, September 22, 2017, 08:21:25 AM

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ZSHO

I will start a separate Topic on the subject on hand soon.
I unfortunately have been hearing this short one second rattle upon cold start up which has me a bit concerned.

Today was the second time this has occurred in two months and always have used Redline Full Synthetic and Amsoil signature series full synthetic oil along with the Motorcraft Fl -500s oil filter.

I have always changed my oil religiously at frequent intervals and 3K would be max for a peace of mind.
To be continued, thanks. Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

StealBlueSho

Hmmmmm it's not the typical one second rattle on start up that happens? I can't remember the name of the part ATM...


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SHOdded

Ugh.  Rattles suck, unless they are meant for babies ...
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

TopherSho

Quote from: ZSHO on September 22, 2017, 08:21:25 AM
I will start a separate Topic on the subject on hand soon.
I unfortunately have been hearing this short one second rattle upon cold start up which has me a bit concerned.

Today was the second time this has occurred in two months and always have used Redline Full Synthetic and Amsoil signature series full synthetic oil along with the Motorcraft Fl -500s oil filter.

I have always changed my oil religiously at frequent intervals and 3K would be max for a peace of mind.
To be continued, thanks. Z

have a recording ?
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

glock-coma

Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 22, 2017, 09:15:46 AM
Hmmmmm it's not the typical one second rattle on start up that happens? I can't remember the name of the part ATM...


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timing chain tensioner?
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

StealBlueSho

#5
Quote from: glock-coma on September 22, 2017, 09:21:25 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 22, 2017, 09:15:46 AM
Hmmmmm it's not the typical one second rattle on start up that happens? I can't remember the name of the part ATM...


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timing chain tensioner?

Cam phasers.... it sometimes takes a second for the oil pressure to build. Might want to check your oil level. It appears some cars make more noise than others while the oil moves up into them...

That being said, Z knows his car better than anyone, so if it's a new noise then perhaps there is something else going on. Other culprits of that noise based on forum feed back is the rear turbo.

Some have mentioned the HPFP as well during start up rattling...

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ZSHO

#6
I appreciate all the replys from ^^^ and only has happened twice in the past few months IIRC!
I noticed that it sounds more like a plastic rattle than a metal sound.
FWIW almost have 2k since my last oil change. Z




2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

SHOdded

so MANY plastic parts on this car.  bellypan, hose clamps, hpfp cover ...  hopefully it is just a fastener at fault, spurred the vibration of an engine at startup.  Doesnt sound like a suspension or mount component.  Maybe check the direct meth system as well?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ZSHO

Thanks so much and will just keep my ears and eyes open and just monitor it.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Night Hawk

 I was getting a similar noise when using the motor craft oil filter, switched to Mobil-1, poof gone.
2017 Fusion Sport
GFB DivValve/165* Thermo
K&N Panel/CFM Breather
Ult Perf Int Garrett Core/MKZ oil cooler
FMS 70mm TB/ NGK .026/LMS V6 93

StealBlueSho

Quote from: ZSHO on September 22, 2017, 03:05:00 PM
I appreciate all the replys from ^^^ and only has happened twice in the past few months IIRC!
I noticed that it sounds more like a plastic rattle than a metal sound.
FWIW almost have 2k since my last oil change. Z


Might want to check to make sure your noisemaker is secure. Also any plastic parts that may have been impacted when LMS removed and reinstalled your intake manifold.

Additionally if you can get under your car I would check to make sure that the new Alky pump is still secured, along with the new reservoir that they installed.

Not uncommon for something to be slightly loose after everything settles in after being taken apart.

Just my .02 cents..


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ZSHO

#11
I guess sometimes its in front of you and you don't see it!!!!!
I found the front bumper a bit loose which makes perfect sense since having the DPM installed.
Does anyone know how to tighten the front bumper on the 13+SHO?
Its unfortunately getting dark here and will try to tackle it early tomorrow am or will contact LMS,Thanks. Z  :)


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

SHOdded

#12
May need bumper cover mounting brackets, or new fasteners.  Ever since the transition to pictorial description of things in the FSM, it's a bit hard for me to tell.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ZSHO

#13
-MANU Thank you so much. Z  :)
(Courtesy) of SHOdded.
               


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

ZSHO

#14
I called a good buddy of mine to give me a hand with the front bumper and will post some pics of during the day. Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|