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AJPTurbo vs LMS (Yea I went there)

Started by StealBlueSho, September 01, 2017, 08:08:50 PM

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Colorado-SHOBro

#15
September 02, 2017, 10:02:26 AM
You really gotta get that thing to the 1/4 SBS! Brad's tune is clearly at a disadvantage from the launch with the traction issues but makes up for it very quickly. In the video of you and turbocoupe it's crazy how much you're pulling him in the start of 3rd gear.
11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

StealBlueSho

#16
September 02, 2017, 10:04:54 AM Last Edit: September 02, 2017, 10:07:07 AM by StealBlueSho
Yea.. my friends at the track said the same thing.. that when I hit third gear the car jumps like I have a nitrous kit spraying...

However to be fair, they said the same thing about the LMS tune however with Brads tune it's more evident. Third seems to be the money gear.

1/4 mile times are coming... the closest track is 1.5 hours away so it will would be about a month if all goes well to have a heads up comparison between LMS and Brad.

I give both tunes time to settle in before running them, so it will need to be 2 trips for an honest accounting.


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SHOdded

#17
September 02, 2017, 10:07:15 AM
Always has been even in the Gen 1/2 MTX SHOs.  That's why the HD gearset was made.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

dubcitySHO

#18
September 02, 2017, 10:27:24 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 02, 2017, 10:04:54 AM
Third seems to be the money gear.

Do you think that's due to the big spark you are achieving from the jump in octane and meth cooled IAT2 temps? 

3rd gear seems to be where my car falls on its face, granted I'm tune only, and no downpipes so IAT2 is skyrocketing by then killing spark.
2018 Magnetic Metallic F-150 XLT FX4 SCrew, 20% 3M Tint, Currently researching reputable F-150 tuners....

lamrith

#19
September 02, 2017, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: dubcitySHO on September 02, 2017, 10:27:24 AM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 02, 2017, 10:04:54 AM
Third seems to be the money gear.

Do you think that's due to the big spark you are achieving from the jump in octane and meth cooled IAT2 temps? 

3rd gear seems to be where my car falls on its face, granted I'm tune only, and no downpipes so IAT2 is skyrocketing by then killing spark.
Yeah my car seems about the same.  I am blessed out here with long periods of time with cooler temps thru year, but usually associated with wet roads.  Cool temps and cool roads/tires mine will break them loose in a straight line (92oct AJP rev6), but not usually when road/tires are warm, Not even when car is on cooler side and just hitting ope temp after sitting all day.  I would love to have a car that chirps all 4 off the line and requires tweeking to keep it hooked up.  SBS/AJP are going to be the death of my bank account.  I sold my Meth kit "I don't need it" but damn if I do not want it with all his success so far!  Wanting to get a Stage1 kit and have Bradmiester cook me up a tune without the traction mods SBS has, for scientific reasons...
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

SHOdded

#20
September 02, 2017, 04:59:05 PM
Try eblending as an alternative till u get the meth kit kick resolved :)
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ZSHO

#21
September 02, 2017, 06:19:09 PM Last Edit: September 02, 2017, 06:57:03 PM by ZSHO
Nice Times there SBS! maybe we will cross paths one day. 
I'm just waiting to get my H&R's installed properly. Z  :band:


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

StealBlueSho

#22
September 02, 2017, 07:12:28 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on September 02, 2017, 06:19:09 PM
Nice Times there SBS! maybe we will cross paths one day. 
I'm just waiting to get my H&R's installed properly. Z  :band:


That would be cool!!! I wonder what's halfway between you and I? Hmmmm but not sure I want to hang out with a NY fan ;-)


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SHOdded

#23
September 02, 2017, 07:14:58 PM
LOL, I am sure you will find a good spot, or two ...
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

StealBlueSho

#24
September 03, 2017, 06:00:39 PM
I for some reason cannot find my slips from Aug 25 where I was hammering the LMS tune...

In any event... the ET was 8.1 - 8.2 all night..

AJP was 7.9 to 8.0 all night


I want an honest accounting so as soon as I find the slips I will post all runs from both nights..


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f8tlSHO

#25
September 03, 2017, 08:37:10 PM
I think 1/4 mile times are in order... my e30 Brad tune is 7.9 in summer heat in the 1/8... wonder what happens afterward for your car


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

StealBlueSho

#26
September 03, 2017, 08:42:25 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on September 03, 2017, 08:37:10 PM
I think 1/4 mile times are in order... my e30 Brad tune is 7.9 in summer heat in the 1/8... wonder what happens afterward for your car


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My guess honestly is that the meth keeps the IATs low so it pulls harder after the 1/8th mile... but who knows...


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f8tlSHO

#27
September 03, 2017, 08:42:54 PM
Well I am interested in the answer!!


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

SHOdded

#28
September 03, 2017, 10:00:50 PM
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Joeyfuzz911

#29
September 03, 2017, 10:29:15 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 02, 2017, 10:04:54 AM
Yea.. my friends at the track said the same thing.. that when I hit third gear the car jumps like I have a nitrous kit spraying...

However to be fair, they said the same thing about the LMS tune however with Brads tune it's more evident. Third seems to be the money gear.

1/4 mile times are coming... the closest track is 1.5 hours away so it will would be about a month if all goes well to have a heads up comparison between LMS and Brad.

I give both tunes time to settle in before running them, so it will need to be 2 trips for an honest accounting.


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Mike, Had it not been for that damn rain Friday night we could seen those 1/4 miles times. I plan to go to one of the last three coming up in the next month. They are on the weekend 12-5. I'll let you know when I plan to go.
2014 SHO nonpp, MDesign intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa catback, H&R springs, 170 tstat, 3 bar map sensor, matte black vinyl wrapped chrome trimming, smoke tinted tail lights, 20x9 +35 offset aftermarket wheels on 275/40 R20 Continental Extreme Contact Sports, Powerstop z23 brakes and drilled/slotted rotors, 35% tint, MSD coils, NGK 6510 gapped at 0.26 and AJPturbo 3 bar 93 tune.

12.82 @ 106.6mph w/ 1.82 60"
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