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Started by Sugar, March 28, 2017, 12:44:33 PM

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Sugar

Hi all,

New and have been slowly tracking problems with my SHO (unleashed 93 tune currently).  For a good while I was having up to 22psi boost spikes and I found 2 leaks that have been repaired now (throttle body hose clamp was stripped and vac line going from boost solenoid to charge pipe).

My boost levels have been ALOT better in the past two revs of the tune but I wanted to see what other Unleashed users were experiencing as far as a +/- of boost.  Lately I am anywhere from +/- 0.75 of my 15 psi target.  My fuel pressure seems to be better (not sure still if I am positive on acceptable levels through the powerband yet though) and my OAR is stuck at -0.96 so I believe my fuel is good. 

Running a standard 93 (e10) what is normal lambse for banks 1 and 2?  I have been trying to educate myself on some of these as I am still new to these cars.  Also what is the reason for 2 banks of lambse? 

thanks!
2015 SHO nonpp - Torrie 93 tune, AEM drop in, 170 thermostat, 3 bar

AJP turbo

Have you looked at your boost level at the 2-3 wot upshift?..i bet you are alot more off than .75 psi of your target

There are 2 banks of cylinders so thats why....each bank could have different fuel adders and compensations for temp control of the exhaust and head compoents...the exit paths of the exhaust is not symmetrical

Temp control can change the lambda targets(lambse) and it doesnt have to be the same for both banks
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

Sugar

Hey Brad. Actually I emailed you earlier last week a little. You looked at one of my catalogs.  I'll try to snag a look at the 2 to 3 to shift and see what I notice. I'll also try to get a datalog to post and see everyone's response.

Don't think I counted you out for an e tune either. Just waiting to get this hashed out with Torrie so I can give a little comparison between the two. 

Now everything makes much more sense for the banks. I was a little lost without that tid bit of information.

Quote from: AJP turbo on March 28, 2017, 12:56:47 PM
Have you looked at your boost level at the 2-3 wot upshift?..i bet you are alot more off than .75 psi of your target

There are 2 banks of cylinders so thats why....each bank could have different fuel adders and compensations for temp control of the exhaust and head compoents...the exit paths of the exhaust is not symmetrical

Temp control can change the lambda targets(lambse) and it doesnt have to be the same for both banks
2015 SHO nonpp - Torrie 93 tune, AEM drop in, 170 thermostat, 3 bar

AJP turbo

Yeah but if I remember you didnt have the correct kind of parameters logged for a proper evaluation.

So how long does it take you to get to keystone or PRP?
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

Sugar

Yeah that was a problem. Do you have a config file I could use to take one? If not I have my original config from Torrie and could use that one. I'm really considering an e20 mix. We just got e85 at a local gas station finally.  How much reduction of fuel mileage woukd you expect with a mix?

Keystone is about an hour for me to get to, not too bad.

Quote from: AJP turbo on March 28, 2017, 04:55:05 PM
Yeah but if I remember you didnt have the correct kind of parameters logged for a proper evaluation.

So how long does it take you to get to keystone or PRP?
2015 SHO nonpp - Torrie 93 tune, AEM drop in, 170 thermostat, 3 bar

FoMoCoSHO


Colorado-SHOBro

QuoteHow much reduction of fuel mileage woukd you expect with a mix?
From recent experience i've seen around a 1MPG(or even less) average loss from my normal 91 octane tune to my E20 tune. Probably 70/30 highway/street driving. 20.2-21MPG on 91 and 19.3-20.2MPG on E20 tune. Both AJP Turbo tunes made from the adrenal glands of baby jesus himself! LOL
11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

autobahn terror

What are you using to datalog?
2014 PP, Dicunzolo Gen2 Mounts, Gear Head Intercooler, EcoPowerParts Charge Pipes w/Meth Bung @1GPH, Hennessy KnN CAI W/RECIRC, Alky controls meth injection, Lightly Ported Intake drilled and tapped for Port Meth Injection 1GPH per Cylinder, XDI EVO HPFP, Deathwerks 340LPH intank LPFP, ATP Turbos, EPP Catless DownPipes, Corsa CAT Back, 160TSTAT, 3BAR MAP, Stock Ignition coils, SP542 plugs .028, UPR Catch Can, MEGAN Coilovers,  Power Stop Z23 Brake Kit, 93octane Dynotune @ 430AWHP/430AWTQ...Soon to be much more

Sugar

Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on March 28, 2017, 11:02:58 PM
QuoteHow much reduction of fuel mileage woukd you expect with a mix?
From recent experience i've seen around a 1MPG(or even less) average loss from my normal 91 octane tune to my E20 tune. Probably 70/30 highway/street driving. 20.2-21MPG on 91 and 19.3-20.2MPG on E20 tune. Both AJP Turbo tunes made from the adrenal glands of baby jesus himself! LOL

Sweet baby jesus!

Quote from: autobahn terror on March 29, 2017, 04:12:26 AM
What are you using to datalog?

Livelink II
2015 SHO nonpp - Torrie 93 tune, AEM drop in, 170 thermostat, 3 bar

dubcitySHO

Quote from: AJP turbo on March 28, 2017, 04:55:05 PM


So how long does it take you to get to keystone or PRP?

We gonna get an ecoboost party together at Keystone this year??  I know I can't wait to see what Brads tune did for my car.
2018 Magnetic Metallic F-150 XLT FX4 SCrew, 20% 3M Tint, Currently researching reputable F-150 tuners....

AJP turbo

Quote from: dubcitySHO on March 30, 2017, 08:07:32 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on March 28, 2017, 04:55:05 PM


So how long does it take you to get to keystone or PRP?

We gonna get an ecoboost party together at Keystone this year??  I know I can't wait to see what Brads tune did for my car.

Yea definitely im game...id like to see you run....and im going to run the 2.7 f150...id like to see if i can get deep into 13's but im just guessing
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

glock-coma

Quote from: dubcitySHO on March 30, 2017, 08:07:32 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on March 28, 2017, 04:55:05 PM


So how long does it take you to get to keystone or PRP?

We gonna get an ecoboost party together at Keystone this year??  I know I can't wait to see what Brads tune did for my car.
I might make the drive down from Cleveland for that.
Drop the wife off at IKEA lol.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

Sugar

Quote from: glock-coma on March 31, 2017, 12:16:32 AM
Quote from: dubcitySHO on March 30, 2017, 08:07:32 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on March 28, 2017, 04:55:05 PM


So how long does it take you to get to keystone or PRP?

We gonna get an ecoboost party together at Keystone this year??  I know I can't wait to see what Brads tune did for my car.
I might make the drive down from Cleveland for that.
Drop the wife off at IKEA lol.

Good old IKEA!  I'll definitely going to go and I have another SHO Brethern here at my work.  Brad I am trying to convince him to go to you.  He has a 2015 nonpp and ran a 13.2 bone stock.  Once I have my tunes hashed out with Torrie (hopefully soon, 11 revs already) I am going to give Brad's a try. 
2015 SHO nonpp - Torrie 93 tune, AEM drop in, 170 thermostat, 3 bar

dubcitySHO

Quote
Good old IKEA!  I'll definitely going to go and I have another SHO Brethern here at my work.  Brad I am trying to convince him to go to you.  He has a 2015 nonpp and ran a 13.2 bone stock.  Once I have my tunes hashed out with Torrie (hopefully soon, 11 revs already) I am going to give Brad's a try.

Trust me you won't be disappointed.  Brad has worked his tail off on my tune especially the past few weeks when my car presented a 'mystery hiccup' which he smoothed out in very short order. 
2018 Magnetic Metallic F-150 XLT FX4 SCrew, 20% 3M Tint, Currently researching reputable F-150 tuners....

StealBlueSho

Hmmm when do we want to do this? It's about 3.5hrs from my place.... I might be game for a meet up!

Is there an ethanol pump round that area?