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How to Fix? At WOT from standstill lose traction around 30mph-40mph.

Started by Dutchsho11, February 19, 2017, 03:27:07 PM

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Dutchsho11

Thank you for the information boss man. bpd1151 what year is yours? So is that what you recommend for my little issue? And where did you buy yours? I just don't want to waist money I'm sure you fill the same.

bpd1151

Mine's a 2010, job 2 production.

I don't have a recommendation for a vendor to purchase from, as most will price match anyhow. Shop around.

The Megan's helped my traction issues significantly.

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derfdog15

Just wanted to mention that tires are a pretty important aspect here. Regardless of if your tires are new/properly aired up if they are a subpar tire/design they will not hook as well.

For example, my mustang makes MAYBE 200 horsepower at the crank currently, full suspension and gears, it can hook for days with proper tires. I put cheap nankangs on it and spun all around town. Went back to a nice BFGoodrich and no spinning at all.

On my 04 F150 that I traded for the SHO, I could spin the stock goodyear tires in reasonably dry conditions while in 4x2, even with decent tread life. Upgraded to a more aggressive treaded tire and never spun throughout the life of the tire.

Also, temperature is a major factor. My SHO hooks pretty well in 60+ degree weather, especially after a little driving to warm the compound. It always spins on a brake boost launch, no matter temperature, especially with traction control off. However, normal driving in cooler temperatures, the traction control light is pretty much consistently expected if I lay into it.
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car

Dutchsho11

I'm running BFGoodrich g-Force Comp-2 A/S 103W @ 32psi. I should have no problem hooking.

66 Galaxie

'14 Flex Tuxedo Black ecoboost

derfdog15

Quote from: Dutchsho11 on February 20, 2017, 05:26:32 PM
I'm running BFGoodrich g-Force Comp-2 A/S 103W @ 32psi. I should have no problem hooking.

Seems low on the PSI, I run the same tire at 35 PSI,I believe (IIRC thats the recommended Air Pressure). Like I said, cooler weather they have issues hooking till warmed up, and at the track(unprepped) I spin first all the way and can spin second if I launch it harder than usual.

In the cool at ~45-50mph if I smack the gas I can light up traction control as well, especially if I downshift/go to S and mat it.
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car

bpd1151

I wouldn't recommend running 35psi at the track there derf......

I do 22-24psi myself (& yes, the TPMS idiot light illuminates).

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derfdog15

Quote from: bpd1151 on February 21, 2017, 12:19:26 PM
I wouldn't recommend running 35psi at the track there derf......

I do 22-24psi myself (& yes, the TPMS idiot light illuminates).

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I run 35 all the time, car is my DD, and I don't have the patience to air down/air up for the track specifically. Last time out I was cutting 1.8-2.0 '60s. I am sure lower pressure would benefit slightly but I'd rather not deal with it when I have to drive ~1 hr each way to the track and back.
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car

ZSHO

Quote from: derfdog15 on February 21, 2017, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on February 21, 2017, 12:19:26 PM
I wouldn't recommend running 35psi at the track there derf......

I do 22-24psi myself (& yes, the TPMS idiot light illuminates).

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I run 35 all the time, car is my DD, and I don't have the patience to air down/air up for the track specifically. Last time out I was cutting 1.8-2.0 '60s. I am sure lower pressure would benefit slightly but I'd rather not deal with it when I have to drive ~1 hr each way to the track and back.
Derfdog since you have a PP would take advantage of that air compressor/gauge inside the trunk and put it to good use my friend especially with those 60 ' times being so crucial. Z :)


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

derfdog15

Quote from: ZSHO on February 21, 2017, 12:59:59 PM
Quote from: derfdog15 on February 21, 2017, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on February 21, 2017, 12:19:26 PM
I wouldn't recommend running 35psi at the track there derf......

I do 22-24psi myself (& yes, the TPMS idiot light illuminates).

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

I run 35 all the time, car is my DD, and I don't have the patience to air down/air up for the track specifically. Last time out I was cutting 1.8-2.0 '60s. I am sure lower pressure would benefit slightly but I'd rather not deal with it when I have to drive ~1 hr each way to the track and back.
Derfdog since you have a PP would take advantage of that air compressor/gauge inside the trunk and put it good use my friend especially with those 60 ' times being so crucial. Z :)

The PP air compressor comes with the same warning as a "donut" tire. Do not exceed 55mph etc. IDK how I feel about running tires on the highway using that.
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car

bpd1151

Quote from: derfdog15 on February 21, 2017, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on February 21, 2017, 12:19:26 PM
I wouldn't recommend running 35psi at the track there derf......

I do 22-24psi myself (& yes, the TPMS idiot light illuminates).

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

I run 35 all the time, car is my DD, and I don't have the patience to air down/air up for the track specifically. Last time out I was cutting 1.8-2.0 '60s. I am sure lower pressure would benefit slightly but I'd rather not deal with it when I have to drive ~1 hr each way to the track and back.
Ha! Well then that's the root of it..... lack of patience.

You mean to tell me you'd endure driving 1hr in each direction, to/from the track, but you can't stomach 5min worth of deflating/inflating.

C'mon man, surely you can't be serious. Lol.

Z's spot on, 60's are crucial. Take advantage of every lil bit you can. Especially when acquiring those sought after slips my friend!

Mine was a DD for 6yrs and I've driven longer than you to get back/forth to tracks. Do it derf!

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ZSHO

Quote from: derfdog15 on February 21, 2017, 01:24:32 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on February 21, 2017, 12:59:59 PM
Quote from: derfdog15 on February 21, 2017, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on February 21, 2017, 12:19:26 PM
I wouldn't recommend running 35psi at the track there derf......

I do 22-24psi myself (& yes, the TPMS idiot light illuminates).

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

I run 35 all the time, car is my DD, and I don't have the patience to air down/air up for the track specifically. Last time out I was cutting 1.8-2.0 '60s. I am sure lower pressure would benefit slightly but I'd rather not deal with it when I have to drive ~1 hr each way to the track and back.
Derfdog since you have a PP would take advantage of that air compressor/gauge inside the trunk and put it good use my friend especially with those 60 ' times being so crucial. Z :)

The PP air compressor comes with the same warning as a "donut" tire. Do not exceed 55mph etc. IDK how I feel about running tires on the highway using that.
I was referring to the air compressor and not the tire sealant. Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Dutchsho11

My tires have around 3,000 miles on them. I have been running 35psi cold so I dropped it down to 32psi to see if any changes really I fill none. I think I might just go with springs from LMS and see what improvement that gives me. March MIR opens so I will finaly find out if all the money I spent was worth it?

StealBlueSho

Quote from: Dutchsho11 on February 21, 2017, 03:55:02 PM
My tires have around 3,000 miles on them. I have been running 35psi cold so I dropped it down to 32psi to see if any changes really I fill none. I think I might just go with springs from LMS and see what improvement that gives me. March MIR opens so I will finaly find out if all the money I spent was worth it?

When you looking to go to MIR? If you want someone to go with you let me know. I'm on the VA side...

If you are looking to go sub 13 seconds you need a helmet I believe..

Dutchsho11

Well March 5th is the first Sunday they are open its test and tune. I already have a helmet, I use to race my R32 and Vette at MIR. Unfortunately my daughter comes first so had to get ride of some toys. And I better run faster then 13 seconds or I'm going to be pissed with all the money I've spent on this car. I'll PM you. But I would love some company.