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PPE Downpipes Rubbing hole in cover.

Started by polskifacet, February 08, 2017, 10:37:44 PM

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polskifacet

Hey guys,
PPE catted downpipe from the front turbo almost melted/rubbed a hole for itself in the cover under the engine. Does anyone else have this issue? I am thinking to get a piece of stainless sheet metal and rivet it to the plastic cover. Ill take pictures once done.
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EcoPowerParts

#1
Have you emailed PPE and let them know? Paul can be very accommodating in scenarios like this, I can get in the middle but they are the manufacturer and control the warranty. Unfortunately with hand made pipes there will be times that tolerances are tighter than the jig expects, the down side is that you'll have to pay for a new pipe and then  ship the old pipe back then get refunded. The easiest thing is to just hammer clearance it, the 1/4" of clearance you require will not impact performance in the least bit and it's the easiest scenario.
If you want to do the swap email me and sales@ppeengineering.com so we can start that process.
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KonaTheWhale

My front pipe hung a little low for the shield so I just notched out the shield where the pipe would rub against it. Haven't had any issues and was the easiest route in my opinion.
2011 Ford Taurus SHO non PP Kona blue, Livernois 93 octane 3 bar tune, PPE catless downpipes, muffler delete, 160* stat, K&N drop in filter, VTA mod, rear end lowered, 15% tint, EBC brake upgrade

polskifacet

Quote from: EcoPowerParts on February 09, 2017, 08:07:11 AM
Have you emailed PPE and let them know? Paul can be very accommodating in scenarios like this, I can get in the middle but they are the manufacturer and control the warranty. Unfortunately with hand made pipes there will be times that tolerances are tighter than the jig expects, the down side is that you'll have to pay for a new pipe and then get ship the old pipe back. The easiest thing is to just hammer clearance it, the 1/4" of clearance you require will not impact performance in the least bit and it's the easiest scenario.
If you want to do the swap email me and sales@ppeengineering.com so we can start that process.
Mike
lol seems a bit drastic, the pipe is more important IMO than the cover. I think ill just put a piece of aluminum where the pipe is touching and rivet it in with backer washers and call it a day. My stock pipe was only like 1/4 inch from the cover as well.
AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs

Heelfan1

I know its not turbo downpipes but found this interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azPKIjxmmdU

I would have never thought this would have been the case.
2013 SHO non PP LMS Tuned, 160ts, 3 Bar, CAI, DP's
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polskifacet

Pipes are too beautiful lol would hurt my soul to bang on them with a hammer.
AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs

ZSHO

Quote from: polskifacet on February 09, 2017, 02:35:22 PM
Pipes are too beautiful lol would hurt my soul to bang on them with a hammer.
I would try using a rubber mallet. Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

derfdog15

Quote from: polskifacet on February 09, 2017, 02:35:22 PM
Pipes are too beautiful lol would hurt my soul to bang on them with a hammer.

I'd remove the undertray before I beat up my downpipes

That said, My car drove ~2k miles without an undertray with no adverse affects, due to my original one cracking down the middle because of ice/snow (it got caught and ripped).

I think your metal shielding idea should work pretty well.

The other option, depending if you have the clearance/adjust-ability would be to shift the part that is hitting slightly, but idk if you can do it easily or if it would require some custom fab/welding.
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MiWiAu

Quote from: derfdog15 on February 09, 2017, 02:53:08 PM

I'd remove the undertray before I beat up my downpipes

That said, My car drove ~2k miles without an undertray with no adverse affects, due to my original one cracking down the middle because of ice/snow (it got caught and ripped).

Doesn't the SHO belly pan have cooling vents cut into the bottom to direct airflow? I saw an image of one once, and I thought I recall seeing some air scoops, so to speak. If so, I'd be cautious about running long term without one. If it weren't beneficial to cooling, I guarantee Ford would remove that part from the assembly to save cost. Just my  $0.02, FWIW.

The XSport doesn't have a belly pan, but there is a duct to direct air to the PTU area, which I'm adamant about keeping in place.


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FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: MiWiAu on February 09, 2017, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: derfdog15 on February 09, 2017, 02:53:08 PM

I'd remove the undertray before I beat up my downpipes

That said, My car drove ~2k miles without an undertray with no adverse affects, due to my original one cracking down the middle because of ice/snow (it got caught and ripped).

Doesn't the SHO belly pan have cooling vents cut into the bottom to direct airflow? I saw an image of one once, and I thought I recall seeing some air scoops, so to speak. If so, I'd be cautious about running long term without one. If it weren't beneficial to cooling, I guarantee Ford would remove that part from the assembly to save cost. Just my  $0.02, FWIW.

The XSport doesn't have a belly pan, but there is a duct to direct air to the PTU area, which I'm adamant about keeping in place.


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I'm not sure about that but IIRC some members have noted that their vehicles become less stable at high speeds without it.

MiWiAu

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on February 09, 2017, 10:00:28 PM
Quote from: MiWiAu on February 09, 2017, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: derfdog15 on February 09, 2017, 02:53:08 PM

I'd remove the undertray before I beat up my downpipes

That said, My car drove ~2k miles without an undertray with no adverse affects, due to my original one cracking down the middle because of ice/snow (it got caught and ripped).

Doesn't the SHO belly pan have cooling vents cut into the bottom to direct airflow? I saw an image of one once, and I thought I recall seeing some air scoops, so to speak. If so, I'd be cautious about running long term without one. If it weren't beneficial to cooling, I guarantee Ford would remove that part from the assembly to save cost. Just my  $0.02, FWIW.

The XSport doesn't have a belly pan, but there is a duct to direct air to the PTU area, which I'm adamant about keeping in place.


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I'm not sure about that but IIRC some members have noted that their vehicles become less stable at high speeds without it.


Hmm, I could buy that, too. Guess what I'm saying is that I don't think it's on there just for fun. :P


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StealBlueSho

Quote from: MiWiAu on February 09, 2017, 10:03:47 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on February 09, 2017, 10:00:28 PM
Quote from: MiWiAu on February 09, 2017, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: derfdog15 on February 09, 2017, 02:53:08 PM

I'd remove the undertray before I beat up my downpipes

That said, My car drove ~2k miles without an undertray with no adverse affects, due to my original one cracking down the middle because of ice/snow (it got caught and ripped).

Doesn't the SHO belly pan have cooling vents cut into the bottom to direct airflow? I saw an image of one once, and I thought I recall seeing some air scoops, so to speak. If so, I'd be cautious about running long term without one. If it weren't beneficial to cooling, I guarantee Ford would remove that part from the assembly to save cost. Just my  $0.02, FWIW.

The XSport doesn't have a belly pan, but there is a duct to direct air to the PTU area, which I'm adamant about keeping in place.


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I'm not sure about that but IIRC some members have noted that their vehicles become less stable at high speeds without it.


Hmm, I could buy that, too. Guess what I'm saying is that I don't think it's on there just for fun. :P


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Funny... I thought ford put them there to hide all the oil leaks from the turbos...


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ZSHO

#12
I would say the under cover(belly pan)is ideal for airflow and aerodynamics along with its built heat shield barrier plays a significant role AFAIK. Z
Here's a good discussion on fitment issues.  Z
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,6095.msg95298.html#msg95298


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polskifacet

Got around to fixing the cover under the engine.


AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs

SHOdded

Nice job!  If there's metal on there tho, maybe coat with some sort of Plastidip or something to retain thermal properties?
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!