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Started by derfdog15, December 17, 2016, 07:04:19 PM

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I am not sure on the seal, the gate doesn't leak as it is currently set up, so I assume it wouldnt leak with the "bleeder valve" set up either. As it is now, it pushes air out of there, essentially the bleeder valve puts pressure back in, so it needs more pressure at the bottom of the diaphragm to open up.
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MiWiAu

Quote from: f8tlSHO on January 15, 2017, 08:46:46 PM

I have never seen it hooked up like this. Maybe this is why I am having so much trouble. Thank u. I wondered what the top port was for. But their is no seal in between the top and the gate. I would imagine I would need one.

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My Tial MV-S doesn't have a seal for the top side either. Maybe the mating surfaces are good enough to hold the pressure. Some RTV might provide some additional peace of mind. Might make it more of a PITA to change springs, though, LOL. I'd try without first. ;)

Nice find, derf!



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f8tlSHO



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If you shorten the spring by cutting out active coils, you are also increasing your spring rate (which means your valve might not open as far due to higher spring reaction forces). By reducing "na" in the formula below, you are decreasing your denominator and increasing your spring rate (k). Not necessarily a bad thing, but something to be aware of depending on the application.

Your preload is simply your spring rate (k) times your compressed distance (make sure your units are compatible).
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It would prob be more of a problem i was only using 1 spring (increasing the spring rate).



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MiWiAu

Quote from: derfdog15 on January 15, 2017, 08:51:46 PM
I am not sure on the seal, the gate doesn't leak as it is currently set up, so I assume it wouldnt leak with the "bleeder valve" set up either. As it is now, it pushes air out of there, essentially the bleeder valve puts pressure back in, so it needs more pressure at the bottom of the diaphragm to open up.

I didn't pay attention to the cap to see if there is a feature that retains the diaphragm in place? That would provide a seal from the bottom side. Not sure about the top. I'm going to change over my springs tomorrow evening, so I'll take a closer look at mine while it's apart.


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f8tlSHO

Quote from: MiWiAu on January 15, 2017, 08:53:49 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on January 15, 2017, 08:46:46 PM

I have never seen it hooked up like this. Maybe this is why I am having so much trouble. Thank u. I wondered what the top port was for. But their is no seal in between the top and the gate. I would imagine I would need one.

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My Tial MV-S doesn't have a seal for the top side either. Maybe the mating surfaces are good enough to hold the pressure. Some RTV might provide some additional peace of mind. Might make it more of a PITA to change springs, though, LOL. I'd try without first. ;)

Nice find, derf!



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Maybe a paper seal to start with


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Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

f8tlSHO

Man... I blew it, the mbc is hooked up backwards... in too much of a hurry with too much stuff going on..


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Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

derfdog15

Quote from: f8tlSHO on January 15, 2017, 09:37:21 PM
Man... I blew it, the mbc is hooked up backwards... in too much of a hurry with too much stuff going on..


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At least you figured it out now! And its pretty simple to flip, try it the correct way and report back!
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f8tlSHO

Quote from: derfdog15 on January 15, 2017, 09:42:52 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on January 15, 2017, 09:37:21 PM
Man... I blew it, the mbc is hooked up backwards... in too much of a hurry with too much stuff going on..


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At least you figured it out now! And its pretty simple to flip, try it the correct way and report back!
Can't believe I did this... lol.. I am off tomorrow with the kids, but I will have my wife's Odyssey. Gotta pick up a load of hardwood flooring. Can't really do that in the sho. Made sure the tank was full in the sho, don't need her screwing up the e20 mix


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E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

MiWiAu

Good thing you caught it before chopping springs! ;)


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Quote from: MiWiAu on January 15, 2017, 10:53:10 PM
Good thing you caught it before chopping springs! ;)


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We will see if it changes anything..


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Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

derfdog15

Quote from: f8tlSHO on January 15, 2017, 10:54:21 PM
Quote from: MiWiAu on January 15, 2017, 10:53:10 PM
Good thing you caught it before chopping springs! ;)


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We will see if it changes anything..


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The way the MBC is made, it should, there is basically a valve that opens and lets the air through at the desired level. When you turn the knob it applys pressure to the ball bearing to increase/decrease that desired pressure level. Since you have it reversed, it can't see the pressure properly, and the ball bearing does not open properly. Fixing the orientation should allow it to actually control boost.
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car

f8tlSHO

Quote from: derfdog15 on January 15, 2017, 11:07:09 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on January 15, 2017, 10:54:21 PM
Quote from: MiWiAu on January 15, 2017, 10:53:10 PM
Good thing you caught it before chopping springs! ;)


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We will see if it changes anything..


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The way the MBC is made, it should, there is basically a valve that opens and lets the air through at the desired level. When you turn the knob it applys pressure to the ball bearing to increase/decrease that desired pressure level. Since you have it reversed, it can't see the pressure properly, and the ball bearing does not open properly. Fixing the orientation should allow it to actually control boost.
I hope you are right


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Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

2013blksho

You guys great thread going here. I will be tinkering soon as well. Just picked up my x4 and will be sending Brad info next week then off to the tool box!

MiWiAu

Quote from: f8tlSHO on January 15, 2017, 11:08:23 PM
I hope you are right


Any luck swapping those MBC connections, f8tl?


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Quote from: MiWiAu on January 20, 2017, 07:46:26 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on January 15, 2017, 11:08:23 PM
I hope you are right


Any luck swapping those MBC connections, f8tl?


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I just got it swapped around yesterday, busy week.. I have not gotten it dialed in yet, but I am slowly working on it. trust me I am eager to report back as soon as I have news. Good or bad


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Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq