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Blown engine-Replaced

Started by firewater88, September 01, 2016, 07:40:45 PM

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glock-coma

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Lspi---Low speed pre-ignition ?
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
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1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

firewater88

And honestly, I don't know much about all that. I learned what I know from these forums. I know you guys know way more about the internals than me... And I won't even try to sound like I know what the f I'm talking about...


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sholxgt

I would base the decision on finances, how long you want to own the car, and how much enjoyment you would get out of a built motor.

Because I'm a person of extremes, I would either do a used swap to get it correct again and then trade it in, or build the heck out of it and have some fun.

There is a middle ground that is probably smarter, but I generally am either taking my car forward or getting rid of it to move toward the next.
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StealBlueSho

Sorry to hear about the blown motor! Donor car would be the cheapest bet I would think as long as you have a good mechanic who isn't going to bend you over for the swap...19K resale is a lot to walk away from... but if you don't owe anything on it... you could get a few bucks for scraping it as a down payment on another vehicle...

Knowing the tuner isn't going to make much difference... not until we start hearing about a lot more blown motors... we all know that tuning these things stress the motor... and motors crap the bed without a tune... I have read a lot of forums and have not seen a trend one way or the other.


firewater88

Car is paid off and have only owned it for a year and a half. Was planning on keeping it for a long time. Told my wife 200k+ or till the wheels fell off.
I feel if I walk away from it, I would get maybe $3k  (?) in current condition. Being titanium, I could part it out and get some but would then still go further in debt buying another car.
I don't want to, but I guess I would drop serious cash on a motor I know will be done right and last. Getting a do are might be cheaper, but then I might be buying other problems.


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FoMoCoSHO

Paid off?

Time to have some fun with it.

Much cheaper than taking a another chance with a different car.

AJP turbo

#21
Grease monkeys that turn wrenches should turn wrenches and not speak about things they dont know about...typically their usefulness is from the neck down

I guess the reason the oem's produce extra engines is to repair failures from tuned motors

We just got a new long block on my wifes kia with 30k on it and its bone stock and never sees more than 4k rpm wonder how that one blew up?

Sometimes engines just blow...until every rod and piston is xrayed you cannot rule out a failure due to bad material

Bad tunes can also absolutely take a motor out in a single wot pull....best to know your tuner and have everyone be clear about the goals and methods for obtaining those goals

I work in quality control and have a background in metallurgy...not uncommon for material to be bad from the begginning
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SHOdded

Are similar failures occurring in other EB engine lines?
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

66 Galaxie

If you find a low mileage donor car you get some nice additional parts like trans, ptu, rear end, brake calipers, etc to keep as spares or sell off.  If it is a 2013+ you will get the larger factory brakes to put on your car too.  ;-)
'14 Flex Tuxedo Black ecoboost

firewater88

Got the dealer down another $2k. Still pricey, but gets a 3year 100k warranty on motor and 2 year on turbos. Got a small shop that can do it for less than that, reman parts and just 1 yr warranty, but they are not near me so I would have to haul it there.
Went and drove a few cars, again, just to see what is out there in small suv, car range and there ain't much that I could really afford.
Damn, I hate throwing away money....


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griggs95

Interesting dilemma you have.

I think time should be should be your best friend right now and use it to make the best decision. I'm hoping you have another form of transportation as well?

What you don't want to happen is the coulda, shoulda, woulda scenario to unfold. Maybe the dealer will come down another 1k or a nice used engine will pop up in a few weeks...who knows. Please keep us posted, would love to know the outcome.


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firewater88

#26
Decided to go document the car and damage since it is out in the lot without a mechanic hovering over my shoulder. I jacked up passenger side, took off lower cover and found this. (attached) I think there is another, but can't see it without being on a hoist.

Wife is telling me to just do it at the dealer it is at. She is really worried about warranty work that might be needed later. It's not that much  more than the other shops I have contacted. Still waiting on final price from Livernois for a stage 1 install.
2011 Flex Titanium EB
Retired- 1992 SHO

firewater88

Was able to pull my basic logs from Torque. This is toward the end of the log, but at the time of destruction I think. Guess I was getting on it a bit more than I thought from the stop light...
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midnightSun

Quote from: firewater88 on September 06, 2016, 08:46:12 AM
I jacked up passenger side, took off lower cover and found this. (attached) I think there is another, but can't see it without being on a hoist.

Did you find the source of the oil leak? 
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