Blown engine-Replaced

[glock-coma]

Thx for documenting this process

[glock-coma]

I jacked up passenger side, took off lower cover and found this. (attached) I think there is another, but can't see it without being on a hoist.

Did you find the source of the oil leak?

I'm pretty sure it was the gapping hole in the side of the block lol. 

[Devin]

I've been following some engine destruction threads on the F150ecoboost.net forum and I'm trying to discern how widespread this problem is and whether it is good to just cut bait and get a non-Ecoboost powered truck.

[Rockstar04]

I've been following some engine destruction threads on the F150ecoboost.net forum and I'm trying to discern how widespread this problem is and whether it is good to just cut bait and get a non-Ecoboost powered truck.

http://forums.corral.net/forums/s-197-mustang-gt-2011-2014/1260052-blown-up-2011-5-0-engine-not-coverd-ford.html

The 5.0 V8 blows up too, every engine has its problems.

EDIT: The thread I linked to may have been the owners fault, but I have read about mustang and F150 owners with 5.0 issues.

[SHOdded]

Problem is, the transverse 3.5EB production is so small compared to those engines that every one that selfdestructs hurts.

[firewater88]

... every one that selfdestructs hurts.

Yes. Yes it does.

[Devin]

I've been following some engine destruction threads on the F150ecoboost.net forum and I'm trying to discern how widespread this problem is and whether it is good to just cut bait and get a non-Ecoboost powered truck.

http://forums.corral.net/forums/s-197-mustang-gt-2011-2014/1260052-blown-up-2011-5-0-engine-not-coverd-ford.html

The 5.0 V8 blows up too, every engine has its problems.

EDIT: The thread I linked to may have been the owners fault, but I have read about mustang and F150 owners with 5.0 issues.

I certainly am not saying that other engines don't have problems. But coming from the 3.0l SHO community, seeing a single engine blow up is fairly rare. Seeing a thread where ten different people chime in over the course of two years with holes in their blocks is astounding.

Rereading my post, I think it'd be good to clarify. I don't want to get rid of the truck, but what I am wondering is how widespread this issue is, and what best practices can be used to limit the chances of throwing a rod through the block.

[Rockstar04]

Best bet, keep it 100% stock while under warranty (If it blows, its Fords dime not yours), and after the warranty is up, get a tune that changes the shift points so the motor doesn't have to lug as much in the lower RPM's to avoid LSPI.

[SHOdded]

Hey, Devin!  Throw up an intro for yourself over in the New Members Intro subforum, we'd appreciate it:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html

Do you have any warranty on your truck?  Is it Ford or aftermarket?  As long as major damage is not caused, dealers/Ford tend to honor warranty on breakdowns.

New or used, you should always have a known starting point before you tune or add mods.  With used, it is advisable to get fresh fluid in everywhere:  engine, transmission, PTU, RDU, cooling system, and ideally, the brake system.  Check/empty the intercooler.  Get new spark plugs in there.  Then let it prove itself to you over the course of 500-1000 miles.  I would datalog during this time, just to have a baseline.  Check the plugs at the end of that 500-1000 miles to verify the truck is running properly.

Then if all is going well, load up a tune/thermostat/CAI/downpipes/exhaust.  With the trucks, the CAI has a relatively major impact on performance, so definitely worth it.  Keep datalogging to get an idea of how your truck is performing.  An upgraded intercooler is also available for the trucks, and will be worth it.

Post up your datalogs if you want extra eyes on them.  Don't hesitate to ask questions.

[firewater88]

In researching the motor replacement, I tried to search for the part number of the assembly they gave me.
FOAA5Z-6006-D is the Service Engine Assembly that I have but can't find anything on it.
Does anyone have a place to look up those part numbers to see what is included with that?


Thanks

[sholxgt]

You could check fordparts.com  I often start there.

Good luck with search!

[firewater88]

Found the part number, but no real description. In fact the same part number has 4 listings under engine assembly depending on oil cooler/towing or not.

Would the long block come with new water pump/timing chain design- already installed? Or is that sourced from the original?

Thanks in advance

[sholxgt]

I think that Ford offers this motor in the following ways...

1. short block - bottom end only. block, crank, rods, pistons
2. long block - short block plus heads, timing chain, camshafts
3. complete assembly - everything included

I do not think that the water pump, oil pan, valve covers, etc are included until you step up to the complete assembly.

Your local parts department at a Ford dealer may be able to tell you more, but I think that is the basics.

[ZSHO]

I just confirmed with Ford and the whole engine assembly which is Part # DG1Z6006A can be had for nearly 6.500.00 with all parts needed and the part is 2 Days out.  Part Description: 3.5L Dual Over Head Cam T/C V6 Gas ; SHO Package 1; Gaskets And Additional Parts Must Be Purchased Separately, Includes Oil Pan, Valve Covers, Front Cover & Water Pump.  Z      http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/PartDetail.aspx?n=JfBYT2Kj2LUpv3vNzQFYwQ%3d%3d&id=390313021&m=44&search=true&year=2013&make=Ford&model=Taurus   

[firewater88]

Thanks guys. I thought that the LB would not include the water pump and such. I want that replaced while this is going on, so I need to call my service guy and confirm all this.
ZSHO, thanks for the link. I did see that one and will ask him about it.