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Started by AJP turbo, June 07, 2016, 01:01:10 AM

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StealBlueSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on April 11, 2017, 09:20:00 PM
I would've guessed 360/460 since your spark was around 20 degrees in your logs...wonder what it was when you did your pulls

Hopefully you can run it at the track

I know they call mustang dynos heart breakers but why do they read so low?..stock numbers must be embarrassing

So if a stock sho put down 250 that would be like a 33% loss through the drivetrain...that is far from what people use as acceptable loss of 20% for automatic cars

Heat soak you think?

Not sure which run they pulled the numbers from... these cars take forever to cool down...

TopherSho

#106
It was pull 5 after failing in 5th twice and a recalibration run.

*But* the numbers under 5k were very similar.   Were within 5% so humidity, elevation, fuel quality, temp and circus mimes in Texas could have a cumulative effect.

For 92 octane.. as well and not 93.  So there is that too.

I mean. Really with fuZy napkin math were at 500ftlbs at the crank.  That is amazing for a family hauler
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

lamrith

Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 11, 2017, 09:07:50 PM
Which is about what others are putting down with AJPTurbo... slightly lower on the HP.. could have been heatsoak after the 160mph run...
I am thinking it might be tied to the fact that he and I have CRAP options for fuel out here, highest anyplace around is 92octane, they have a habit of messing with it in the winter too...?

I am happy to see him put those numbers down with that in mind.  Crossing fingers, I woudl like to hit the 450 mark.
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

TopherSho

#109
And here is the PDF...   Redacted the Plate and Name.

edit:  for those jumping in the thread without reading back,  this is a MustangDyno..





2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

AJP turbo

Nice...i like starting the pull lower so you can see when the power comes on...its impressive to see over 90% of your torque at 2500 rpm..it just spotlights where this motors shines.

And i think their afr sensor was calibrated for stoic of 14.64 for pure gas because your afr line is leaner than your data logs...stoic for e10 pump is about 14.08 so your afr is low 11's

Did they put it in the tail pipe? That could make it wrong to because of the cats
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Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
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Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

TopherSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on April 12, 2017, 09:29:12 AM
Nice...i like starting the pull lower so you can see when the power comes on...its impressive to see over 90% of your torque at 2500 rpm..it just spotlights where this motors shines.

And i think their afr sensor was calibrated for stoic of 14.64 for pure gas because your afr line is leaner than your data logs...stoic for e10 pump is about 14.08 so your afr is low 11's

Did they put it in the tail pipe? That could make it wrong to because of the cats

YUP!  in the pipe ..
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

lamrith

Quote from: AJP turbo on April 12, 2017, 09:29:12 AM
Nice...i like starting the pull lower so you can see when the power comes on...its impressive to see over 90% of your torque at 2500 rpm..it just spotlights where this motors shines.

And i think their afr sensor was calibrated for stoic of 14.64 for pure gas because your afr line is leaner than your data logs...stoic for e10 pump is about 14.08 so your afr is low 11's

Did they put it in the tail pipe? That could make it wrong to because of the cats
Wow yeah they did start it up in the rpm range.  I will make a note of that for when we get my tune dialed in and I do a Dyno run.  Pull from low as possible RPM and in 4th..

Topher - Did you run logging during the pulls?
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

TopherSho

Quote from: lamrith on April 12, 2017, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: AJP turbo on April 12, 2017, 09:29:12 AM
Nice...i like starting the pull lower so you can see when the power comes on...its impressive to see over 90% of your torque at 2500 rpm..it just spotlights where this motors shines.

And i think their afr sensor was calibrated for stoic of 14.64 for pure gas because your afr line is leaner than your data logs...stoic for e10 pump is about 14.08 so your afr is low 11's

Did they put it in the tail pipe? That could make it wrong to because of the cats
Wow yeah they did start it up in the rpm range.  I will make a note of that for when we get my tune dialed in and I do a Dyno run.  Pull from low as possible RPM and in 4th..

Topher - Did you run logging during the pulls?

Negative,  they had their HPTuner module hooked up.  I have the HP logs.. but i obviously cannot open them .

2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

lamrith

Quote from: TopherSho on April 12, 2017, 12:05:57 PM
Quote from: lamrith on April 12, 2017, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: AJP turbo on April 12, 2017, 09:29:12 AM
Nice...i like starting the pull lower so you can see when the power comes on...its impressive to see over 90% of your torque at 2500 rpm..it just spotlights where this motors shines.

And i think their afr sensor was calibrated for stoic of 14.64 for pure gas because your afr line is leaner than your data logs...stoic for e10 pump is about 14.08 so your afr is low 11's

Did they put it in the tail pipe? That could make it wrong to because of the cats
Wow yeah they did start it up in the rpm range.  I will make a note of that for when we get my tune dialed in and I do a Dyno run.  Pull from low as possible RPM and in 4th..

Topher - Did you run logging during the pulls?

Negative,  they had their HPTuner module hooked up.  I have the HP logs.. but i obviously cannot open them .
If you post those I am betting one of us can open them and post graphs maybe?  Tunes are usually locked up, but I think graphs can be shared..?  I have HPTune for my GM rigs and be willing to try opening them to share if you want.
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

AJP turbo

Why would they have the HP device hooked up if you dont own a device and why would they stick an 02 sensor in the pipes if you have cats? Especially if they were logging with hp?

Any particular reason they hooked up the HP device to your car?
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

StealBlueSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on April 12, 2017, 12:21:46 PM
Why would they have the HP device hooked up if you dont own a device and why would they stick an 02 sensor in the pipes if you have cats? Especially if they were logging with hp?

Any particular reason they hooked up the HP device to your car?

To steal your tunes dude!!!

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: StealBlueSho on April 12, 2017, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on April 12, 2017, 12:21:46 PM
Why would they have the HP device hooked up if you dont own a device and why would they stick an 02 sensor in the pipes if you have cats? Especially if they were logging with hp?

Any particular reason they hooked up the HP device to your car?

To steal your tunes dude!!!
That's messed up...

AJP turbo

Well the shop couldve at least gave you a free dyno session
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

TopherSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on April 12, 2017, 12:21:46 PM
Why would they have the HP device hooked up if you dont own a device and why would they stick an 02 sensor in the pipes if you have cats? Especially if they were logging with hp?

Any particular reason they hooked up the HP device to your car?

No idea.  I *assume* to sync the rollers and the tail type enema ?   But i suspect mostly to get the HP graphs for highlights and possible sales points?

I attached the HP logs in a zip.. the forums rejected the file types.


2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction