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Would I benefit from a later shift to 3rd?

Started by ElvenSho, May 20, 2016, 12:21:44 AM

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ElvenSho

Quote from: SHOnUup on May 23, 2016, 08:23:33 PM
Side note...we had guys testing E/85 here in Michigan. Winter months all of it was under 70%...ranged from 62-68%

So be careful as that mix changes.

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2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

AJP turbo

Looks pretty good eleven....What do you think your fuel blend was? How much E overall? E20?

Knock sensor was happy....You had a little but I wouldn't worry at all. Don''t think it went over 2.

Your wastegate dutycycle seemed kinda high for only commanding 200kpa or about 15 psi. Could be the way torrie is setting wastegates, I dunno.

It looks like you had a spike in your stft's  but when you look at the swing and how long it lasted it's really not bad....Looks bad on the graph but it was only 1.07 and it didn't last...It's because it was so consistent it makes 1.07 stand out

Your 02's were pulling a bit of fuel then at about the same time you got a boost spike at the 1-2 upshift that's when your stft's spike up to add fuel and that caused the slight fuel pressure drop...But at 1450 psi I wouldn't worry about that and it recovered quickly.

You are up on a spark limiter meaning you are running the max spark allowed so your knock sensor is not adding any more spark which is kind of unfortunate. But it probably wouldn't add much anyway because you got that slight knock retard so you were close to max spark anyway

Basically anytime the knock sensor is reading 0 for an extended time at wot you are riding a spark limiter. If you weren't you would see negative knock sensor readings....I would say the E is helping you. It looked pretty warm in your log but wish you logged IAT2. Because I suspect that was over 120-130 and you were still at about 19 degrees spark at almost 1.6 load so that's pretty aggressive spark

Car should be running well I'd bet
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ElvenSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on May 23, 2016, 10:46:51 PM
Looks pretty good eleven....What do you think your fuel blend was? How much E overall? E20?

Knock sensor was happy....You had a little but I wouldn't worry at all. Don''t think it went over 2.

Your wastegate dutycycle seemed kinda high for only commanding 200kpa or about 15 psi. Could be the way torrie is setting wastegates, I dunno.

It looks like you had a spike in your stft's  but when you look at the swing and how long it lasted it's really not bad....Looks bad on the graph but it was only 1.07 and it didn't last...It's because it was so consistent it makes 1.07 stand out

Your 02's were pulling a bit of fuel then at about the same time you got a boost spike at the 1-2 upshift that's when your stft's spike up to add fuel and that caused the slight fuel pressure drop...But at 1450 psi I wouldn't worry about that and it recovered quickly.

You are up on a spark limiter meaning you are running the max spark allowed so your knock sensor is not adding any more spark which is kind of unfortunate. But it probably wouldn't add much anyway because you got that slight knock retard so you were close to max spark anyway

Basically anytime the knock sensor is reading 0 for an extended time at wot you are riding a spark limiter. If you weren't you would see negative knock sensor readings....I would say the E is helping you. It looked pretty warm in your log but wish you logged IAT2. Because I suspect that was over 120-130 and you were still at about 19 degrees spark at almost 1.6 load so that's pretty aggressive spark

Car should be running well I'd bet
It was 85f+ outside when I did the log. I am glad that everything seems to be good but at the same time that pretty much means there is no more room for improvement which is sad because I would really like to get low 12s out of it the way it sits. With only pushing 15 psi do you think if torrie pushed more boost I would have a fuel problem with this mix? Yes it is about e18-e20. He did a revision for me today and the car shifts lil over 6k 2nd and 3rd gear which i feel helps and also the car does seem to pull a bit harder so maybe he made some boost adjustments. I will get a new log for you again since I need to send one to him also. Thanks for looking!

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AJP turbo

Yea low 12's is tough...That's what I'm shooting for....I mean you probably have room for a little more but when you want to keep creeping the boost up that increases fuel demands...And look at "fuel rear pressure" you can see the dips....Now add more boost which will increase load which is what really call for the fuel, then you want more E to the mix then when winter rolls around will you still have enough fuel? Maybe, maybe not.....Do you want to run your machine ragged all the time lol?

If I tuned your car I might give you another pound of boost and if you wanted more it would come with a warning and disclaimer lol
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SHOnUup

Sounds perfect...sounds exactly how I imagine mine is running. Torque Pro has me at 1600 for fuel pressure, and occasionally I see +2 KR...time to but an SCT device just to log...getting bored

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12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

AJP turbo

Quote from: SHOnUup on May 23, 2016, 11:05:09 PM
Sounds perfect...sounds exactly how I imagine mine is running. Torque Pro has me at 1600 for fuel pressure, and occasionally I see +2 KR...time to but an SCT device just to log...getting bored

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Do it Rich!...Nice revs btw
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SHOnUup

Thanks...it's about time. I'd like to see what it's doing before adding the meth kit.

Have a launch video outside the car, and one from inside loading up right now.

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12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

AJP turbo

Quote from: SHOnUup on May 23, 2016, 11:14:51 PM
Thanks...it's about time. I'd like to see what it's doing before adding the meth kit.

Have a launch video outside the car, and one from inside loading up right now.

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Cool, I'll give you a nice AJP log review lol...If you get one let me know and i'll email you a nice config file that I use when I log if you want...I hate seeing everyones logs in celcius and some of the good items missing lol
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405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
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SHOnUup

Appreciate it...reading logs is something I haven't gotten into yet. Seems like the natural next step. My buddy has an X4 I think for sale... $200

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12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

Brucelinc

I look forward to hearing what a log on SHOnUups car would look like.  I would love to know what mine looks like, too.   Livernois sent me a revised tune that I thought would improve my track times but it was actually a tad slower than the normal tune that I had been running.   I suspect it needed higher octane or maybe other supporting mods but that is only a guess.  Would be nice to know the real reason.

This will be the last summer for my MKS so I will not be doing any more mods, anyway.

Scott4957

Quote from: Brucelinc on May 24, 2016, 09:29:28 AM
I look forward to hearing what a log on SHOnUups car would look like.  I would love to know what mine looks like, too.   Livernois sent me a revised tune that I thought would improve my track times but it was actually a tad slower than the normal tune that I had been running.   I suspect it needed higher octane or maybe other supporting mods but that is only a guess.  Would be nice to know the real reason.

This will be the last summer for my MKS so I will not be doing any more mods, anyway.

Selling the MKS Bruce? I too would like to see some logs from the Livernois tuned guys.
2013 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost, AJP Tuned

AJP turbo

I would love to see the logs more than anyone LOL
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Dyno
     
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Scott4957

Quote from: AJP turbo on May 24, 2016, 10:26:06 AM
I would love to see the logs more than anyone LOL

Log whore. Not Warlock LOL
2013 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost, AJP Tuned

Brucelinc


Selling the MKS Bruce? I too would like to see some logs from the Livernois tuned guys.
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I would also like to have someone interpret the Livernois tunes!  Honestly, I love their tunes and they get excellent performance and drivability without super high boost.  I would be nice to see exactly what is going on. 

My plan is to order a new Continental with the 400 HP engine later this summer to replace the MKS.  I am so used to having my car tuned, I will want to have the Continental tuned, too.  No one has developed a tune for it since the car is not even available yet.    I am not a customer of Torrie but I emailed him about it and within 2 minutes he replied and seemed very optimistic if SCT adds PCM support for it.     

AJP turbo

SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress