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Are hub rings needed to run gt350 Mustang wheels?

Started by J_C, April 02, 2016, 03:12:54 PM

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J_C

I think I've decided on a replacement wheel for the flowers on my 13pp but they're designed for 11-16 Mustangs. They are Flow Formed and priced right but before pulling the trigger I would like to have confirmation of a correct fit. Hopefully they will work because they weigh only a pound more than nurburgring's for almost half the cost!

Here are the specs listed on the wheel I'm looking at.
20x8.5 Wheel.  +27mm offset/5.8 Backspace, 24.4lb

If anyone has ran or is currently running some type of late model Mustang wheel please let me know if there was any fitment issues or hub rings needed? I'm new to the sho game so any advice would be appreciated








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ZSHO

Welcome aboard J. C ,are the wheels from American muscle? if so a couple of members have had great results and no issues with the offset,here's the link,hope this help's any.  Z     http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,5645.msg89379.html#msg89379   :)


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AJP turbo

I doubt the offset would be a problem...you need to find out the bore diameter of both wheels
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J_C

Quote from: ZSHO on April 02, 2016, 04:08:38 PM
Welcome aboard J. C ,are the wheels from American muscle? if so a couple of members have had great results and no issues with the offset,here's the link,hope this help's any.  Z     http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,5645.msg89379.html#msg89379   :)

No, they're actually from Wheel Replica. I considered the Amr's but I rather go with a lighter wheel for a small amount more.
2013 Taurus SHO performance pack: H&R's, Aem drop in filter, Torrie e30 tune, 3 bar map, 170 t-stat,  Unleashed catless downpipes, Vibrant resonators, 4" rolled tips

12.172 @ 113.06 mph

J_C

Quote from: AJP turbo on April 02, 2016, 04:24:13 PM
I doubt the offset would be a problem...you need to find out the bore diameter of both wheels

From what I gathered the offset should put them closer to the wheel well more than my pp wheel. I'll see if they can provide the bore diameter and see how it compares to the performance pack wheel
2013 Taurus SHO performance pack: H&R's, Aem drop in filter, Torrie e30 tune, 3 bar map, 170 t-stat,  Unleashed catless downpipes, Vibrant resonators, 4" rolled tips

12.172 @ 113.06 mph

J_C

I got a response about the bore diameter of the gt350 wheel and it's 70.6. How does that compare to the factory performance pack wheel?
2013 Taurus SHO performance pack: H&R's, Aem drop in filter, Torrie e30 tune, 3 bar map, 170 t-stat,  Unleashed catless downpipes, Vibrant resonators, 4" rolled tips

12.172 @ 113.06 mph

AJP turbo

I found 63.3 mm for the pp wheels....i would call tire rack and tell them the 2 dimensions...i use their hub centering rings for different wheels i use for snow tires for other cars...they have many sizes....u should be good because the gt350 wheel is larger obvious
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405whp/520tq
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Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

SHOFan808

Has anyone found out if that wheel will fit?  I'm interested in knowing too.

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AJP turbo

Quote from: SHOFan808 on April 22, 2016, 10:23:05 AM
Has anyone found out if that wheel will fit?  I'm interested in knowing too.

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Did you read the post above?..
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

SHOFan808

Quote from: AJP turbo on April 22, 2016, 10:36:53 AM
Quote from: SHOFan808 on April 22, 2016, 10:23:05 AM
Has anyone found out if that wheel will fit?  I'm interested in knowing too.

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Did you read the post above?..
Sorry, I'm really clueless when it comes to things like offset, and what not.  I was just curious, because I wanted to change my wheels, but being my car is also used for work, I can only change wheels if it is from the same make (Ford).  Replicas would allow me to do that but save on cost.  But yeah, again, I'm clueless, so the post above is like a foreign language to me.

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BiGMaC

Quote from: SHOFan808 on April 22, 2016, 04:59:58 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on April 22, 2016, 10:36:53 AM
Quote from: SHOFan808 on April 22, 2016, 10:23:05 AM
Has anyone found out if that wheel will fit?  I'm interested in knowing too.

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Did you read the post above?..
Sorry, I'm really clueless when it comes to things like offset, and what not.  I was just curious, because I wanted to change my wheels, but being my car is also used for work, I can only change wheels if it is from the same make (Ford).  Replicas would allow me to do that but save on cost.  But yeah, again, I'm clueless, so the post above is like a foreign language to me.

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You can call TireRack and ask them about the centering rings. Below is a link to an excellent explanation of offset and backspace. Currently the OEM offset is about 39mm which gives the OEM tire about 12mm clearance to the spring cup on the front strut. So if you need more than about 45mm offset your approaching critically tight. Also have to watch poke.... Which is how far out of your wheel well the tire/wheel may stick out... Rubbing when turning? ... Only experience will tell, yours or someone who has done what you propose. Finally make sure the wheel will accommodate your brake calipers... Both diameter and shape of the spokes.....Don't give up too quickly or get discouraged yet. It's how we learn. Here's the link:
https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=101

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SHOFan808

Quote from: BiGMaC on April 22, 2016, 05:19:44 PM
Quote from: SHOFan808 on April 22, 2016, 04:59:58 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on April 22, 2016, 10:36:53 AM
Quote from: SHOFan808 on April 22, 2016, 10:23:05 AM
Has anyone found out if that wheel will fit?  I'm interested in knowing too.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

Did you read the post above?..
Sorry, I'm really clueless when it comes to things like offset, and what not.  I was just curious, because I wanted to change my wheels, but being my car is also used for work, I can only change wheels if it is from the same make (Ford).  Replicas would allow me to do that but save on cost.  But yeah, again, I'm clueless, so the post above is like a foreign language to me.

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You can call TireRack and ask them about the centering rings. Below is a link to an excellent explanation of offset and backspace. Currently the OEM offset is about 39mm which gives the OEM tire about 12mm clearance to the spring cup on the front strut. So if you need more than about 45mm offset your approaching critically tight. Also have to watch poke.... Which is how far out of your wheel well the tire/wheel may stick out... Rubbing when turning? ... Only experience will tell, yours or someone who has done what you propose. Finally make sure the wheel will accommodate your brake calipers... Both diameter and shape of the spokes.....Don't give up too quickly or get discouraged yet. It's how we learn. Here's the link:
https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=101
Thanks!

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