ptu fluid exchange

cseverens · April 20, 2016, 10:02:46 AM

dropped my 13 pp off at the service dept at the ford dealer I work at. I have the same cooled ptu as the interceptors, and ford states that those should have the fluid exchanged every 30k miles, but not the civilian models? anyways, I am at just under 58k miles, and having the ford 75w140 replaced with amsoil 75w140. the fluid cost me $18 or so, and the labor will be about $46. hopefully things pan out. maybe i'll even notice an improvement of some sort! I plan on doing it every 30k, which is basically at least once a year. I bought the car used in july 2015 with 27k miles.

AJP turbo · April 20, 2016, 10:07:06 AM

Where does it state that fluid change interval?...have the literature?

They are only charging 1/2 hr labor to drop the downpipe? And drain and fill and reinstall the pipe?.....thats surprising

cseverens · April 20, 2016, 10:08:22 AM

employee rate. $46/hr. I will try to find the webpage with the interval recommendation.

SHOdded · April 20, 2016, 10:11:25 AM

Good luck, cseverens, let's see what they actually do. Would be nice to video the whole thing!

AJP turbo · April 20, 2016, 10:13:14 AM

Even an hour is hard for me to believe thats all they would charge

cseverens · April 20, 2016, 10:15:28 AM

Quote from: SHOdded on April 20, 2016, 10:11:25 AM
Good luck, cseverens, let's see what they actually do. Would be nice to video the whole thing!

I'm actually a mile away from the service dept, so I can't watch/video. sorry.

cseverens · April 20, 2016, 10:42:28 AM

Quote from: AJP turbo on April 20, 2016, 10:07:06 AM
Where does it state that fluid change interval?...have the literature?

damnit. I reset my internet settings this morning and can't find the link anymore. not sure what I used for a search phrase. sorry.

AJP turbo · April 20, 2016, 10:55:10 AM

Quote from: cseverens on April 20, 2016, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: AJP turbo on April 20, 2016, 10:07:06 AM
Where does it state that fluid change interval?...have the literature?

damnit. I reset my internet settings this morning and can't find the link anymore. not sure what I used for a search phrase. sorry.

I thought ford was pretty stead fast kn the idea that its a lifetime fluid no matter the vehicle

Ford really needs to address the issue of some dealers performing a service and some not

cseverens · April 20, 2016, 11:02:23 AM

Ford really needs to address the issue of some dealers performing a service and some not.[/quote]

this is true. if it has a drain plug, I see no issue why it can't be serviced, but dealers don't want to take risks I guess. I went into the electronic workshop manual for an interceptor sedan, and it gives the tool number to use to fill the ptu, and the step by step, so imho, it's serviceable. I have it saved as a pdf, if anyone wants to tell me how to attach it to this post.

AJP turbo · April 20, 2016, 11:16:37 AM

I have the service manual also...it has the procedure for every ptu and the steps to do it....i dont believe there is anything specific for the PI

cseverens · April 20, 2016, 11:19:01 AM

Quote from: AJP turbo on April 20, 2016, 11:16:37 AM
i dont believe there is anything specific for the PI

same here. I just happened to pick the interceptor over the taurus thinking it probably wouldn't list a service procedure with the regular version.

markssho · April 20, 2016, 09:18:06 PM

If under warranty:
My dealer told me that if they changed the fluid, since Ford does not recommend it, and it failed, they would be on the hook to replace it. It would be a recorded service.
However, if I have someone else change the fluid, and it fails while under warranty, no issue for warranty claim.
Dunnooo...

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cseverens · April 21, 2016, 07:34:37 AM

i am just curious why there is a drain plug if there was no plan to make it serviceable?? also, is gear oil that much better than regular oil? if you never changed the fluid in your engine, you can rest assure it will fail. they never got around to working on my car yesterday, so I have nothing to report yet. I dropped it off again this morning. we'll see what happens.

ZSHO · April 21, 2016, 09:04:18 AM

Quote from: cseverens on April 21, 2016, 07:34:37 AM
i am just curious why there is a drain plug if there was no plan to make it serviceable?? also, is gear oil that much better than regular oil? if you never changed the fluid in your engine, you can rest assure it will fail. they never got around to working on my car yesterday, so I have nothing to report yet. I dropped it off again this morning. we'll see what happens.

If you would be kind enough to add your signature,thanks. Z

ZSHO · April 21, 2016, 09:43:41 AM

Here are a couple of links that you might fund useful on the PI. Z A module keeps track of oil temperature in the PTU and the amount of time spent at that temperature. An electric clutch pack engages and disengages as torque is transferred to the rear wheels.
Both the PI Sedan and PI Utility default to FWD under normal conditions. As the front wheels slip, torque is selectively diverted to the rear wheels. A time versus temp logarithm activates an Oil Minder light in the driver message center if and when it is time to change the PTU fluid. The special synthetic oil may last 100K miles in normal police use. http://www.hendonpub.com/resources/article_archive/results/details?id=5091 http://www.hendonpub.com/resources/article_archive/results/details?id=4966